Bible Believer’s Baptist Church is a small church that was started by Pastor Jim Martin, in the 1980’s in Union Gap, Washington, a small city of roughly 6,000 people, and listed as one of the best places to live in Washington State.
The Reason Files was recently contacted by members of this church, who have become very concerned about events that have recently taken place at their church.
According to a source who wishes to remain anonymous, after Pastor Martin passed away, a man by the name of Rick Mesler became a non-ordained temporary pastor of the church.
Let me reiterate that last bit. Rick Mesler is, not, ordained.
Without the knowledge of the congregation, Mr. Mesler had come under the influence of Aaron Thompson, pastor of Sure Foundation Baptist Church in Vancouver, Washington, which is part of the New IFB.

The fact that Rick Mesler isn't ordained is important to this situation, but would not be an issue with Aaron Thompson, as he comes from a long line of questionable ordinations.

Beginning with Mark Wayne Lewis who had himself installed as pastor of Friendship Baptist Church, without ever being ordained. Lewis was an admitted methamphetamine using and dealing homosexual who ended up in prison after firebombing a home with six people -- including children, asleep inside. Lewis later sent out Roger Jimenez to start a church. That church became known as Verity Baptist Church.

Jimenez claims Lewis ordained him. Witnesses claim Jimenez was never ordained. Either way, since Lewis was not a Christian, was was an admitted homosexual, any ordination performed by him would be invalid. Therefore, Jimenez is also not ordained. As a non-ordained pastor, Jimenez ordained Aaron Thompson. At that time, Jimenez was also a firm believer in the heresy of Modalism, and so just like his pastor, Mark Wayne Lewis, Jimenez was not a Christian.

Therefore, Aaron Thompson was ordained by a non-ordained unbeliever, and so Thompson's ordination is also invalid. Mesler's lack of ordination should not be a problem for Aaron Thompson.

It wasn’t long before Mesler’s doctrinal beliefs changed and came to be more in line with the New IFB. It was at this point that Mesler began to come into conflict with members of the congregation who did not agree with New IFB teachings, and Mesler started to run them out of the church.

Sources within the church report that this all came to a head on the evening of Wednesday, March 3rd, 2021, when the Deacons of the Church – the men who are actually in authority over the operation of the church – called Mr. Mesler into a private meeting to discuss both his recently adopted New IFB doctrines, as well as the fact that he was not yet ordained.
The church had an established policy written into the church constitution regarding the ordination requirements for the church pastor.
Mr. Mesler did not agree with these requirements.
Sources within the church have reported that he is divorced, and that he has had, um, well, let’s just say, “domestic problems” involving Mr. Mesler and his wife, step-son, and mother. Needless to say, Mr. Mesler does not meet the biblical requirements for pastor, and if he were to agree to those requirements, he would have to step down as pastor.
This is something Mr. Mesler was unwilling to do, as it would remove him from the position of power and authority he had come to enjoy.
Refusing to abide by the biblical requirements set forth in the church constitution, Mesler attempted to get the constitution changed in order to by-pass those requirements. When the Deacons, who again are the ones actually in authority over the operation of the church, brought up Mesler’s recently adopted New IFB doctrines, church sources report that Mr. Mesler became increasingly upset, eventually to the point where Mesler jumped up and challenged the Deacons to an all out fist fight. “Let’s take this outside, Buddy!” Mr. Mesler screamed. When he refused to calm down, the Deacon’s found themselves in a position where they had no alternative but to fire Mr. Mesler.
But even this did not end the altercation, as sources reported that Mr. Mesler then ran out into the sanctuary area screaming at people. According to sources, when one of the Deacons attempted to intervene and protect the congregation, Mesler turned on him, and began chasing the Deacon around the church screaming that the Deacon’s cannot fire him. When he had the Deacon backed into a corner, and started to advance on him, the Deacon put his hand out in front of him telling Mesler to back away. Our source reports that Mesler then walked up to the Deacon, and intentionally bumped the Deacon’s hand with his chest. Mesler then accused the Deacon of assaulting him.
Our source went on to say that Mesler then went around to various people in the church, those whom he felt were against him, and summarily annulling their membership and kicking them out of the church.
Finally, Mesler left the church to go to the police station to file an official complaint against the Deacon for allegedly assaulting him. It is believed that at this time Mesler contacted Aaron Thompson for help.
After Mesler left the church building, the remainder of the people, including the Deacon’s, also left. Early the next morning, or possibly even that very night, the Deacon’s had the locks changed on the church. They then informed the entire church membership that they church would be shut down for the safety of everyone, until the situation calmed down and a vote could be taken to officially remove Mr. Mesler from the church.
Sources within the church report that at some point prior to the morning services on Sunday March 7th, Mesler returned to the church. One source reported, “Rick Mesler and one of his supporters came down to the church and drilled out the locks, and broke into the church.” Mesler and his supporters have subsequently changed the locks themselves, and locked out the Deacons and those members who do not support Mesler.
Sources then reported that when the congregation arrived for church services and to vote on the removal of Rick Mesler from the church, they were met by Aaron Thompson and others from Thompson’s Sure Foundation Baptist Church. One source reports that Thompson and his people were standing guard at the church entrance, and physically preventing anyone who did not support Rick Mesler from entering the church. Our source reports that they were told by a person who was able to get in, that Thompson and his people had guns and it was openly discussed that they were guarding the church.
Mesler himself called the police in an attempt to have those who disagreed with him either removed from the church property, or arrested, or both. When the police arrived one of our sources was able to film their encounter with Rick Mesler, where they explained to him they were not going to remove anyone nor arrest anyone, and they suggested the entire situation was a civil matter rather than a criminal one.
After the police and those who did not support Mesler and had been blocked from entering the church had all left, Mesler then began to address his supporters, or at least those whom he believed were his supporters. Some of them were not, as the Reason Files has been sent three different hidden camera videos taken by those inside the church.
Something interesting that is seen in the videos, near the beginning of them, is a heavy set young man who identifies himself as “Cassidy.” He asks to speak and Mesler gives him permission to do so. Cassidy stands up and introduces himself by name, and saying he is the newest member of the church. It is, in fact, the first time he has ever been to the church. When a church member questions him, and asks when he was voted in as a member, he responds that using his authority as the pastor, as granted in the church constitution, Mesler appointed him as a member, and that he was there for security. No one knows who this Cassidy is or where he came from. No one other than Rick Mesler.
Mesler later states that he hired Cassidy for security, and that he was not a member; saying Cassidy simply misunderstood him. Nevertheless, Mesler allowed Cassidy to speak as a member rather than as an employee.
During Mesler’s speech, and we’ll call it that since we cannot call it a sermon, he referred to those who disagreed with him as heretics and vipers, and he told his audience that according to Romans 16:17, anyone who listens to them is simple minded, thus implanting their minds the need to divide and separate from them. In essence, doing the very thing that Romans 16:17 condemns! He repeatedly encourages his audience to revoke to membership of all those who disagree with him, and drives this point home by telling them it is the only way to keep themselves safe. Mesler then goes so far to say that those who disagree with him have removed themselves from church membership.
These tactics are straight out of the New IFB playbook. All that is left is to have a New IFB leader come and preach at their church.
And that is exactly what happened next.
On Wednesday, March 10th, 2021, Aaron Thompson returned to Bible Believer’s Baptist Church, and preached what passes for a standard New IFB sermon. In other words, he spent an hour railing about people, and slandering them.
In actual Christian churches, when the congregation gathers in the Lord’s House to worship the Lord, that is what they do. And when the pastor steps up to preach, he preaches a sermon that both edifies the congregation, and praises the Lord. Not so with the New IFB. They preach to themselves, and they seek to glorify themselves, and God, if He is even mentioned in a New IFB sermon, is used to support New IFB doctrine.
In this case, Aaron Thompson spent an hour railing about and slandering those who disagreed with Rick Mesler; and, he pounded into the heads of those present the need to kick out any who disagree with Mesler, and that all must unquestioningly obey Rick Mesler, and to do otherwise is wicked, evil, and rebelling against God Himself.
Thompson makes the case that as the pastor, Rick Mesler is no different than Moses, and, in fact, actually states that Mesler is “like your Moses.” Thompson repeatedly drives home the point that Mesler is just like the prophets in the Old Testament, that he is one of “God’s anointed,” that God appointed Mesler to be the pastor, and only God can remove him as pastor, and not the Deacon’s, and presumably not the church either. Only God.
Again, this is standard New IFB teaching. In the New IFB, the pastor of the church is the final authority, the pastor is the final arbiter of all things, the pastor is the ultimate authority on the interpretation of Scripture, and the pastor’s interpretation of Scripture trumps the church constitution. Thompson makes the point that even if the church constitution is backed up by Scripture, it is the pastor’s interpretation of the Scripture that trumps everything else. In Thompson’s argument, he is making Rick Mesler out to be inerrant, infallible, and inspired directly by God, which is, of course, utter nonsense.
As fallible as Rick Mesler is, however, Thompson drives home the point that loyalty to the pastor is of paramount importance. Questioning the pastor will not be tolerated and will result in removal from the church, followed by public slander, gossip, ridicule, and quite often harassment. The pastor is to be held as the only authority in the church, and there is to be no one able to hold the pastor accountable.
This is exactly the message that Thompson delivers in his sermon, setting up Rick Mesler as the absolute ruler over Bible Believer's Baptist Church, as if he were a Baptist Pope. And, as we see in Thompson’s sermon, he starts this process by making railing false accusations against, and slandering those who disagreed with his friend Rick Mesler.
Thompson goes so far as to compare those church leaders who stood against Mesler to Korah, Dathan, and Abiram, the leaders of a rebellion against Moses recorded in Numbers chapter 16. If you remember the story, God was extremely upset over the rebellion of these men, and He caused the ground to open up and swallow them, taking them down to the pits of hell. This is who Thompson compares these church leaders to, and Thompson claims that God is just as angry with them, as He was with Korah, Dathan, and Abiram.
In fact, Aaron Thompson goes so far as to actually say during his railing that Dathan is Kyle, that Korah is Pete, and that Abiram is Jerry. Thompson tells Mesler’s supporters to simply write these names above the biblical names in their Bibles, so as to remember what these church leaders are actually like.
When he says this, however, Thompson has to quickly add an addendum to this comparison. When he says, “Abiram is Jerry,” he has to add, “not the good Jerry, but the bad Jerry, whom he then names in full, giving the man’s first and last names, thus doxxing the man publicly to the hundreds of people who have viewed the video of this sermon, and ruining his reputation with unnecessary sinful slander.
According to the Bible, what Aaron Thompson did here is called gossip. Disseminating information, especially false information, for the express purpose of defaming someone, which is what Thompson did, is the biblical definition of gossip.
Thompson complains by saying you’re not supposed to hear an accusation against a pastor unless it comes from two or three witnesses, and insinuating this is not what happened with Rick Mesler. But Thompson knows better, or at least he should have known better. There were two Deacons in that meeting with Mesler, and they were responding to Mesler’s own verbalized adamant refusal to meet biblical requirements for a pastor. And when those two Deacons brought up the complaints of many people in the church about Mesler teaching New IFB doctrine and running people out of the church who disagreed with him, they were acting not on the testimony of two or three witnesses, but rather on the testimony of multiple witnesses! Thompson was bringing a false and railing accusation against these men! From the pulpit! But again, this is standard operating procedure in the New IFB.
Thompson repeatedly puts forth the argument that the Bible sets out qualifications for pastors and deacons. Briefly he makes the statement that the pastor has to meet qualifications, and then he quickly shifts to the qualifications of the deacons in order to make the argument that the Deacons who fired Mesler didn’t meet those qualifications.
In all of this, however, what Thompson seems to ignore, and we will give him the benefit of the doubt and say maybe he didn’t know, but what he doesn’t talk about is the fact that Rick Mesler does not meet the biblical qualifications for pastor. The same qualifications that are set forth in the church constitution. The same qualifications that Rick Mesler refused to accept, and tried to change! This is the man that Aaron Thompson is defending.
A man who acts as if the Bible is not the final authority, and who acts as if God Himself is not the authority, but that he, Rick Mesler, is the authority!
Rick Mesler is divorced. Rick Mesler is the antagonist in domestic problems with his wife, his son, and with his mother. This is the man that Aaron Thompson is defending.
On March 22nd, 2021, Rick Mesler was arrested. According to the police report, the charge was 3rd degree Domestic Violence Assault with a weapon.

To put it bluntly friends, Rick Mesler tried to bash her brains out. And this is the man that Aaron Thompson is defending as an upright man of God.
A railing, slandering, philandering, wife abusing upright man of God.
Seriously Aaron?
Yes, friends, seriously. In fact, Aaron Thompson is so serious about defending Rick Mesler that one week after Mesler was arrested for beating his wife and splitting her head open, Thompson was back at Bible Believers Baptist Church to preach yet again, and during that sermon he once again defended Rick Mesler, and slandered Mesler critics, accusing them of railing, while railing himself. Thompson even went so far as to lie from the pulpit. Among the many lies he told, he states that Mesler was not armed with a handgun, and yet according to the police report, Mesler’s .38 handgun was confiscated and placed into evidence! How could the police confiscate Mesler’s handgun if he didn’t have a handgun? Can you answer that Aaron Thompson?

Rick Mesler is facing a ten year prison term for his crime, and this is the man Aaron Thompson is defending. This is the man Aaron Thompson insists was appointed by God to be the pastor of Bible Believer’s Baptist Church.

Friends, for Aaron Thompson to defend Rick Mesler, and insist that he remain in the pulpit as the pastor of Bible Believers Baptist Church, after all that Mesler has done – i.e. his divorce, the railing and false accusations Mesler has done, the slandering of others, the adultery, and the attempted murder of his wife – demonstrates that Aaron Thompson approves of everything Mesler has done.
If he didn't approve of these things, then he wouldn't work so hard to keep Mesler in the pulpit.
Unless Aaron Thompson is trying to move Bible Believers Baptist Church into the New IFB.
Unless Aaron Thompson was going to try and take Bible Believers Baptist Church under his spiritual wing, and authority, as sort of a satellite church linked to his Sure Foundation Baptist Church.
But, nah. That could never happen, right?

Unfortunately, because of the Covid-19 pandemic, Rick Mesler released from jail, and given a date where he will have to stand before a judge to answer for his crimes.
Engaging in illegal behavior seems to be a semi-regular occurrence among the leadership in the New IFB, so perhaps that is why Aaron Thompson seems so eager to defend Rick Mesler.
One problem in the New IFB concerns their financial dealings. One pastor took ten’s of thousands of dollars from his church in order to pay for gambling, drugs, and prostitutes. Another church sent $50,000 to its parent church, and that entire $50,000 somehow vanished. And yet another New IFB pastor reneged on a signed contract to the tune of more than $70,000! To say there have been financial problems noted within the New IFB is an understatement; and it seems that Rick Mesler is following in those same New IFB footsteps.
Not long after Rick Mesler and his supporters broke into the church and took it over, Mesler and another man attempted to drain the church bank account. The bank was immediately alerted to the suspicious activity of Mesler and the other man, and the bank froze the account, stopping Mesler and the other man from taking off with all the church’s finances.
The man who was with Rick Mesler was not identified, and we only have a description of him. He was heavyset, had a beard, and stood about six feet eight inches tall. An exact description of Aaron Thompson.

Now why would Rick Mesler and Aaron Thompson attempt to make off with all the church’s money? Things that make you go HMMMM?
Now I know that as soon as I post this article, I am going to receive all kinds of hate mail and hate comments in the comment section, and all from New IFB people, and you know what? It’s all good. None of it matters because they cannot refute a single thing that I have said, and the reason they can’t refute it is because it is true and they cannot refute the truth. They can complain about it, and they can whine about it, and they can call me names because I speak the truth, but they cannot refute it, and at the end of the day, that’s all that matters. They cannot refute the truth.

I hope and pray that the people of Bible Believer’s Baptist Church will distance themselves from Aaron Thompson and the New IFB, and not allow the New IFB to take over their church and lead them away from God. And I hope and pray that Rick Mesler, and yes, even Aaron Thompson, will repent of their sins and get right with God. Come to Jesus for forgiveness for their sins and seek salvation that is only found in Christ Jesus.
God has revealed His righteousness apart from the Law, it is the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Chris for all those who believe, without distinction, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Those who are saved are justified by His grace, as a gift, through the redemption which is only in Christ Jesus, who was an atoning sacrifice for sin with the shedding His blood and dying on the cross.
Salvation is by grace through faith, and even that is not of ourselves, but it is a gift from God – not the result of anything that we can do, therefore no one can boast.
The time has come for you to confess your sin to God, and ask Him to forgive your sin. Place your faith in Jesus Christ and what He did on the cross, repent (turn away from sin, and turn toward God), follow Jesus in obedience to His commands.
Jesus said, “Now is the time! The Kingdom of God is near! Repent! And believe the gospel!”
If you will verbally agree that Jesus is Lord, and sincerely believe that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved!
[Romans 3:21-26; Ephesians 2:8-10; Mark 1:15; Romans 8:9]

Transcript

Before we begin, I want to point out that I know the New IFB will do everything in their power to have this video removed. I fully expect to have it, and probably my channel, taken down almost immediately as they will no doubt report this video en mass with pointless claims of whatever. Privacy invasion, copyright infringement, hate speech, whatever they can think of. YouTube doesn’t always watch the video’s that people complain about, they just take them down and wait for the poster to file an appeal. Then they watch the video and see if the appeal is valid, and if it, the video and the channel are restored. This is what the New IFB does, and both Todd and I have played this game with them several times in the past. As predictable as they are, I fully expect them to do it again. To that end, I have ensure that this video is 100% within YouTube and Google’s guidelines. It violates nothing. I have permissions for all the music, and so forth, and I have gone back through and bleeped out all the personal names of New IFB people. We can’t have their privacy violated even though they violate other people’s privacy and rights on a regular basis. That being said, however, I will be posting this video along with a complete unedited transcript of everything I am saying to the Reason Files website. Voice to text is an awesome program. This way you will be read along, and see the names that I have bleeped out in the video. I will provide a link to the website in the comment section below.
This is my friend, my brother in Christ, Todd Ferguson. As some of you know, Todd went missing on January 20th, 2021 between 6 and 7pm. He stepped out of his apartment to buy some shoes from a street peddler. Todd was a kind and generous man, and always ready and willing to help those who were down on their luck. I suspect he believed this person, a woman, was just that, and in need of a helping hand. That would be just like Todd. Always willing to help people. It didn’t matter who you were.
Unfortunately, Todd was not seen again. He simply disappeared without a word to anyone about where he might be going.
This is my friend, my brother in Christ, Todd Ferguson. As some of you know, Todd went missing on January 20th, 2021 between 6 and 7pm. He stepped out of his apartment to buy some shoes from a street peddler. Todd was a kind and generous man, and always ready and willing to help those who were down on their luck. I suspect he believed this person, a woman, was just that, and in need of a helping hand. That would be just like Todd. Always willing to help people. It didn’t matter who you were.
Unfortunately, Todd was not seen again. He simply disappeared without a word to anyone about where he might be going. Because of his serious health issues, Todd never went anywhere without telling someone where he was going, and he usually took a family member with him. In this instance, however, he just disappeared, and his Jeep Laredo, which he had just purchased, was left behind in its parking space. By 9pm, after Todd was missing for approximately 3 hours, his Jeep was still in its parking space. Sometime after that, however, the Jeep also mysteriously disappeared. It was just gone without a trace on the morning of January 21st, 2021.
There was no word from or about Todd. On February 1st, I posted a video telling people that Todd was missing, and on February 3rd came the dreaded news, Todd’s body was found in an alley approximately 5 blocks away. Although his body had been found on the morning of January 21st, the police did not know who he was. He was simply listed as a John Doe. Not only was Todd’s Jeep still missing, but his cell phone was gone, his pockets emptied, his money and bank cards gone, and, of course, his identification was gone. His body was not identified by the coroner until January 26th, and the family not notified until February 3rd.
When Todd’s body was found, he had a single wound on the top of his head, above the hairline. The coroner has yet to provide a reasonable explanation for this wound, saying Todd might have received it by falling down. Typically, however, when people fall down they generally hit the side or back of the head, or the facial area. People don’t fall down and hit the top of their head.
"It was part of Todd's nature to always tell someone where he was going, or to take someone with him. So when he said he was going outside to buy shoes, that was as far as he was going."
Because of his serious health issues, Todd never went anywhere without telling someone where he was going, and he usually took a family member with him. In this instance, however, he just disappeared, and his Jeep Laredo, which he had just purchased, was left behind in its parking space. By 9pm, after Todd was missing for approximately 3 hours, his Jeep was still in its parking space. Sometime after that, however, the Jeep also mysteriously disappeared. It was just gone without a trace on the morning of January 21st, 2021.
There was no word from or about Todd. On February 1st, I posted a video telling people that Todd was missing, and on February 3rd came the dreaded news, Todd’s body was found in an alley approximately 5 blocks away. Although his body had been found on the morning of January 21st, the police did not know who he was. He was simply listed as a John Doe. Not only was Todd’s Jeep still missing, but his cell phone was gone, his pockets emptied, his money and bank cards gone, and, of course, his identification was gone. His body was not identified by the coroner until January 26th, and the family not notified until February 3rd.
When Todd’s body was found, he had a single wound on the top of his head, above the hairline. The coroner has yet to provide a reasonable explanation for this wound, saying Todd might have received it by falling down. Typically, however, when people fall down they generally hit the side or back of the head, or the facial area. People don’t fall down and hit the top of their head.
The area where Todd’s body was found, is not an area that Todd would have normally been in, and especially overnight, and especially with an overnight low of only 27 degrees. There is absolutely no reasonable explanation for Todd to have been there alone, all night, in an area known to be a rough part of Columbus. The coroner has stated that Todd died between 8am and 9am on January 21st. Todd was an intelligent and reasonable man. He would not have been out in that weather, overnight, dressed as he was, which was not for below freezing temperatures. And no one has an explanation for the 13 to 15 hours that Todd was missing and unaccounted for.
I have known Todd for several years now, and some members of his family for more than 20 years. We spent quite a bit of time together as we were both retired, either at his house or mine, and often spending our time discussing the Bible. “Iron Sharpens Iron” the Bible says in Proverbs 27:17, and I certainly benefited from those times spent with Todd.
In 2018, Todd came to me and asked me about an online preacher he had come across on YouTube. That preachers name is Steven Anderson. I had never heard of Anderson before this, and so I began to research him so I could give Todd an answer. My initial research told me that Anderson would be someone to stay away from, and I told Todd this, and I told Todd why. For Todd, however, it was not enough, and he began to watch more of Steven Anderson’s videos, and learning about the New IFB and some of the other people involved. By December of 2018, Todd had convinced me that this group really needed to be researched and the more we researched them, the more we dug into their history and theology and behavior, the more we found that was troubling. Todd was essential to this research.
For every video that I sat through taking notes, Todd sat through ten of them. For every interview I did, Todd conducted even more. All in all between the two of us, I think we conducted more than 50 interviews with current and former New IFB people, as well as with reporters, law enforcement, other pastors, and people with intimate knowledge of the New IFB. Of those 50+ interviews, I conducted maybe a dozen of them. Todd not only conducted all the rest of them, but he was the one with the skills to track all of these people down. I could not have done even half of the work Todd did. He was amazing! A natural born investigator.
Initially, I wrote an article about them for The Reason Files website blog. Then another, and another, and eventually 15 articles in all. Then Todd suggested we make some videos for YouTube. It was a great idea, and we got started. I soon found out that Todd was much better at it than I was, producing several videos for each single video that I put out.
Initially, the New IFB ignored us. Then they were annoyed by us. And the more we found and revealed about their cult, the madder they got. They began a smear campaign against Todd and me and The Reason Files. They lied about us, they slandered us, they mocked us, called us demeaning names, and so forth. Then they began making death threats against the two of us. They threatened us in social media posts, they threatened us in their private group chats, and they threatened us in their pulpits.
Aaron Thompson, the so-called “pastor” at Sure Foundation Baptist Church in Vancouver, Washington put it succinctly when he said to his congregation during one of his sermons about us, “They just need to die” before going on to describe colorful methods for our deaths, such as having a bus fall on us. From the pulpit. To the congregation. To men, women, children of all ages. In what is ostensibly a Christian church.
It wasn’t just Aaron Thompson, but Bruce Mejia, Joe Jones, Roger Jimenez, David Berzins, Jason Robinson, and even Steven Anderson himself all joined in with the “Hate Todd and Robert Club.” As Todd would often say, we were living rent free in their heads. We were almost honored by all the attention. Neither of us had been the subject of a sermon before, much less several sermons by several different pastors in several different states! Of course, the death threats were troubling. But as Todd would keep reminding me, what’s the worst they can do to us? Send us home to be with the Lord?
It wasn’t long before hatred for us being spewed from the pulpit by these New IFB pastors, managed to lodge in the minds of the congregation. And that could be a problem. When Steven Anderson preached from his pulpit that President Obama needed to die (just as Aaron Thompson said about Todd and me), one of Anderson’s church members grabbed his handgun and his AR-15 and headed down to an appearance by the then president. He did nothing more than wander around in the crowd with his rifle and handgun prominently displayed, but who knows what was going through his mind? And who knows what he might have done? What we do know is that the idea for his actions came from the pulpit, from his New IFB pastor. And now those same New IFB church members were looking at Todd and me.
The verbal and social media attacks came, of course. New IFB member Ray Flores of First Works Baptist Church in El Monte, California, Bruce Mejia’s church, began making lewd and offensive comments on our YouTube videos, and eventually went on to create a couple of YouTube channels of his own, but naming them after us. Making them appear as if they were real Reason Files channels. On these channels he placed homosexual themed videos, but gave them the same names as some of our videos, and he used our thumb nails for those videos, so as to deceive people into watching his homosexual pornography that he had uploaded.
As vile a tactic as this was, we had to wonder how he even knew where to go to find homosexual videos. And since the videos he uploaded to YouTube disguised to look like our videos were only a few minutes long, this meant he had to watch homosexual pornographic films in their entirety in order to extract those brief clips.
This same Ray Flores, who uses the YouTube screen name of RayKJV and ReasonFiles (all one word), and Reason Files 3, has also made some very graphic homosexual comments about what he wanted to do to Todd. Doesn’t this seem just a bit odd that someone in a New IFB church would be making such comments and watching such films? I wonder why Bruce Mejia allowed it and doesn’t do anything about it. Very curious indeed.
Ray Flores was certainly not the only New IFB member to make vile comments about us, lie about us, slander us, etc., and even make death threats against us. There have been more than I can count. I am sure many people watching this video have heard the 10 minute phone call between Todd and Ben Naim (who goes by the name Ben the Baptist in an attempt to fashion himself as a modern day John the Baptist), where Ben told Todd he wanted him to die, that he would blow his brains out, etc., well, I’ll let Ben speak for himself. Here is a brief clip from his 10 minute rant against Todd.
Two months after Ben stated he wanted to blow Todd’s brains out, and, coincidentally, only 3 months after Bruce Mejia stated, “Dead LOL” with a skull emoji on as a response to Todd; Todd is found dead. Just as the New IFB stated he would be.
On February 3rd, when the family and then I was notified of Todd’s death, I posted a video letting people know that Todd’s body had been found. The outpouring of genuine care, concern, love, and sympathy has been overwhelming. Both Todd’s family and me are sincerely thankful for each one of you. Thank you so much for all your messages of support. They mean a lot.
At the same time, however, the New IFB was also on hand to spread their filth. They quickly trolled both of these videos, as well as several of the other videos that Todd and I had made, posting all manner of lies and slander about Todd, mocking his death, celebrating his death. Almost immediately, New IFB YouTube channels popped up, created by someone named “Stephen the Blasphemous” that featured a hastily made video celebrating Todd’s death, and another channel by the same person featuring 100 brief videos all uploaded in under an hour, with 99 of them being old shoe commercials and the 100th a celebration of Todd’s death. The shoe videos are a reference to “Stephen the Blasphemous’” repeated slur against Todd, saying that the phrase “buying shoes” (which as you remember is what Todd was doing when he disappeared), that the phrase is street slang for buying illegal drugs, and also for soliciting gay sex; implying that is what Todd was doing when he went missing and was killed.
Initially I believed this Stephen the Blasphemous was a troll account for New IFB pastor Aaron Thompson. I based this on both of them using the same phraseology. However, Stephen the Blasphemous later revealed that he was a member of Faithful Word Baptist Church and his name was Steven Schumacher. He claimed to have been present at FWBC when certain members were kicked out. Numerous former members of FWBC then contacted me and told me that there was never anyone by the name of Steven Schumacher (or Shoe Maker, which is what the name means – back to the shoe reference), and an investigation revealed that the account was based in Arizona. These same former members, each one of them, is convinced that Steven Schumacher is none other than Steven Anderson himself. He was the only one who insisted that person was thrown out of his church, when in fact, the people and their family simply stopped coming of their own volition. Anderson’s narcissism would not allow him to accept someone just not coming to his services.
There has also been another video. A more ominous video. It lasts for only 3 minutes, and for the entire 3 minutes a single message appears on the screen. That message says, “Todd Ferguson’s sins have caught up to him. He has now been permanently cursed by God.”
This video was posted to YouTube on January 30th, 2021. Two full days before I posted the video notifying everyone that Todd was missing, and four full days before anyone even knew Todd was dead. Yet the person or persons who created this video made these statements, both of which indicate a degree of finality. His sins have caught up to him. Meaning he can no longer escape them, it is judgment day; and, that Todd has “now been permanently cursed by God.” The only time in a person’s life where they are beyond all hope of salvation is when they are dead. It is only when a person is dead that they are judged for their sins and “permanently cursed by God,” by being cast into hell.
The obvious question for me is, how did this person or persons know that Todd was dead before the family knew? And, of course, who is this person or persons? The title of the video as well as the title of the channel it is posted on (and the only video on that channel), all point to the New IFB. The title includes Todd’s name, the Reason Files and the New IFB. The channel name, The Treason Hyles, is similar to what David Berzins and Joe Jones have called us, namely, The Treason Files. The similarities cannot be ignored.
With that in mind, take a look at the comments left by members of the New IFB in reference to Todd and his death, and remember, these comments are the fruit of Steven Anderson, Bruce Mejia, Roger Jimenez, Jonathan Shelley, Aaron Thompson, and the rest of the New IFB pastors. They are the fruit of the New IFB.
Luke 6:43-45 says,
43 For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
44 For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.
45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.


And Matthew 7:15-20 says,
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.


Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them, my friends, and this bad fruit that you see here, that the family and I have had to deal with over the past week, will be cut down and cast into the fire as Jesus says.


Scripture goes on to teach us in Philippians 4:8,
8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.


And Hebrews 12:14 says,
14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord


Does this sound like the New IFB to you? No, and as they are, they will not see the Lord.


In Matthew 5:43-48 Jesus said,
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.


Again, here are six more verses the New IFB completely ignores. And there is a reason they ignore these passages, as well as many, many other passages, and that is because they are not Christians. We see this when we look at Galatians chapter 5.
In verses 22-23 we see the fruit of the Spirit that is exhibited in Christians, in true Christians.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.


Do we see these fruits in the New IFB? If we are honest, then no, we do not. What we do see in the New IFB is contained in the list found in verses 19-21:


19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.


8 of the 17 works of the flesh are exhibited in the New IFB comments featured on these two videos. They are: Hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, envyings and murder.


Each of these words have a very specific meaning.


Hatred (echthra - hatred, hostility),
Variance (eris - having a contentious or argumentative spirit),
Emulations (zelos - burning emotion, we get our word Zealous from this),
Wrath (thumos - passion-driven violent behavior),
Strife (eritheia, er-ith-i'-ah - places self-interest ahead of what the Lord declares right),
Seditions (dichostasia, dee-khos-tas-ee'-ah, causing or creating divisions which wrongly separate people),
Envyings (phthonos, fthon'-os, "the feeling of ill-will", the miserable trait of being glad when someone experiences misfortune or pain),
Murders (remember Matthew 5, the sins of the heart and mind are treated as if they had been carried out physically).


There is no doubt that the New IFB, as so clearly shown in these comments, exhibits these traits, these works of the flesh. And as verse 21 says, they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.


They are not saved. They are not Christians. They are false teachers. Wolves, whose sole purpose is to deceive the children of God and lead people astray, lead them straight to the gates of hell. And that is why Todd and I have been working diligently to expose them.
Ephesians 5:8-11 reminds us that we were “sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;) Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

And that is precisely what we have been doing for the past two years, and what I will continue to do. Todd would have wanted that way. And he would have approved of this video. Had he still be alive, he would have made it himself.
Thank you all for watching, and ignore the New IFB trolls that will undoubtedly leave plenty of vile and obscene comments in the comment section. Just know that this is what they do, this is who they are. Getting down into the mud with them will do nothing more than make you dirty. It will not change them one bit. They are lost in their sin and in desperate need of prayer and salvation. That should be our prayer.
God bless you all, and thanks again for watching.

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Part 2a: Who is God?
https://reasonfiles.weebly.com/blog/steven-anderson-and-the-new-ifb-movement-part-2a
Part 2B: Who is Jesus?

https://reasonfiles.weebly.com/blog/steven-anderson-and-the-new-ifb-movement-part-2b
Part 2c: What is the Gospel? What must I do to be saved?

https://reasonfiles.weebly.com/blog/steven-anderson-and-the-new-ifb-movement-part-2c

Steven Anderson and the New IFB Movement – Part Three

Other Unbiblical Teachings and Behaviors of Steven Anderson and the New IFB Movement

Part 3a:Reprobates, Theonomy, and Violence – An Introduction to the Vitriolic, Vindictive, and Violent Nature of the New IFB
https://reasonfiles.weebly.com/blog/steven-anderson-and-the-new-ifb-part-3a
Part 3b: New IFB Theonomous Beliefs

https://reasonfiles.weebly.com/blog/steven-anderson-and-the-new-ifb-part-3b
Part 3c: Hate and Violence Promoted in the New IFB

https://reasonfiles.weebly.com/blog/steven-anderson-and-the-new-ifb-part-3c
Part 3d: Case Histories

https://reasonfiles.weebly.com/blog/steven-anderson-and-the-new-ifb-part-3d
Part 3e: Takin’ it to the Tube

https://reasonfiles.weebly.com/blog/steven-anderson-and-the-new-ifb-part-3e
Part 3f: Steven Anderson’s Personal Vendetta

https://reasonfiles.weebly.com/blog/steven-anderson-and-the-new-ifb-part-3f
Part 3g: The New IFB Gets Political

https://reasonfiles.weebly.com/blog/steven-anderson-and-the-new-ifb-part-3g
Part 3h: Domestic Violence and the New IFB

https://reasonfiles.weebly.com/blog/steven-anderson-and-the-new-ifb-part-3h
Part 3i: Antisemitism in the New IFB

https://reasonfiles.weebly.com/blog/steven-anderson-and-the-new-ifb-part-3i

– Updates –

Steven Anderson and the New IFB Movement -- Update #1
https://reasonfiles.weebly.com/blog/steven-anderson-and-the-new-ifb-movement-update-1

Of course, when a person or a group harbors as much hatred as the New IFB does, that hatred is bound to creep into every aspect of its life. As we have noted, it can be found in the New IFB “reprobate doctrine;” it’s interactions with those who disagree with or criticize New IFB doctrine and leaders and those who have left the New IFB; the numerous “assault videos” they post on YouTube; and, New IFB teaching on parenting and couples. In each of these instances the hatred inherent in the New IFB is on full display. Another area where the New IFB demonstrates its extreme hatred is Antisemitism, the hatred of Jews.
Antisemitism is defined as hostility, prejudice, bigotry and racism directed against Jewish people. It has an evil twin known as Anti-Zionism, which is defined as opposition to the establishment or support of the state of Israel, particularly in an area of the Middle East roughly corresponding to (although significantly smaller than) the historical land of Israel, which is currently home to Jews, Muslims, Christians, Druze, Samaritans, Baha’i’s, and Atheists.
In the Middle Ages and up into the nineteenth century, Antisemitism was widespread. Jews were segregated and they were prohibited from holding certain jobs and from owning land. In Tsarist Russia, anti-Jewish laws remained in force into the early part of the twentieth century. On February 24, 1920, Adolph Hitler formed The National Socialist German Workers' Party, or Nazi Party, in Munich, Germany. This was the beginning of a resurgence of Antisemitism in Europe that eventually resulted in the deaths of six million Jews, as well as millions of non-Jews.
In Hitler’s book, Mein Kampf, written in 1924, he claimed he became an anti-Semite during his time in Vienna, Austra (1908-1913) when he was working as a painter. Whether this is true or not is a matter of speculation, but it does demonstrate that his Antisemitism was in full bloom by at least 1913. In addition to Mein Kampf, the Nazis also used a book published in Russia in 1903 titled, Protocols of the Elders of Zion, to justify their Antisemitism. Although the book was debunked in 1938 as an antisemitic forgery, all that mattered to the Nazis was that it supported their already long held antisemitic hatred.
By 1929, Joseph Stalin had become the leader of Soviet Russia, having exiled any and all who might pose adversarial to him. And, while in 1931, he addressed the issue of Antisemitism by saying it was wrong and abhorrent and so forth, the fact of the matter was that he was an avowed antisemite who hated Jews. The year before coming to supreme power, he tried to create a Soviet version of Israel in Siberia where all Soviet Jews could be removed from Soviet society and contained in a single localized space. Not unlike the Nazi ghettos, but on a much larger scale.
By 1936-37, Stalin had begun what has become known as the “Great Purge,” where thousands of people found themselves suddenly perceived as enemies of the state and under a death sentence. There were many Jews who lost their lives during this time. It was later, however, after World War II, in 1948, when two million loyal Soviet Jews suddenly found themselves declared to be enemies of the state, and Stalin’s reign of Antisemitic terror began in earnest. While we may never know exactly how many Jews Stalin killed, to say it is in the millions is likely an understatement.1
This is the antisemitic heritage that Steven Anderson and his New IFB has built on, and built on it they have. This is evidenced by the litany of antisemitic videos posted to YouTube by the New IFB. One really need look no further than Anderson’s videos, “How to Hate A Jew” (now removed from YouTube due to its hate content),2 “The Jews and Their Lies,”3 “The Jews Are Not the Chosen People”4, and his video, “Differences Between Old IFB and New IFB” in which Anderson explains that the Old IFB is Zionist, Pro-Israel and Pro-Jew; the New IFB is anti-Zionist/Zionism, anti-Israel, and anti-Jewish (which is the same thing as being anti-Semitic), they’re against the state of Israel, against the religion of Judaism. He states that the New IFB believes in “Replacement Theology, or Covenant Theology” he says, “We do not believe the Jews are God’s chosen people, we believe that Christians are God’s chosen people. That basically a spiritual nation made up of Christians has replaced the physical nation made up of the Israelites. ‘The kingdom of God shall be taken from you and given to a nation bringing forth fruits thereof,’ so, you know, they’ve been replaced. Or, you could look at it as we were graft in and they were broken off as Romans 11 teaches. But, either way you look at it, at the end of the day, you know, Christians in the New Testament replace Old Testament nation of Israel.”5
Paul Wittenberger, the New IFB filmmaker responsible for producing numerous New IFB “documentaries” alongside his pastor, Steven Anderson, runs the website, Framing the World and its accompanying online store. A check of Wittenberger’s website and online store reveals several antisemitic, Nazi-sympathetic related books advertised and for sale.6

These include:
DNA Science and the Jewish Bloodline by Texe Marrs and published by Marrs’ publishing company, RiverCrest Publishing7, in which noted antisemite Texe Marrs promotes what has become known as the “Khazarian Hypothesis” or the “Khazarian Myth” which states that the Jews living in Israel since 1948 are not actually Jewish at all, but rather are descendants of the Khazars, a Turk/Mongol people from the Caucasus region (an area covering modern day Southern Russia, Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan), thus concluding the Jews are not really Jews and have no connection whatsoever to historical Israel and no legitimate claim to the land of Israel. Marrs’ book is merely a regurgitation of a long refuted myth8.
The Synagogue of Satan: The Secret History of Jewish World Domination by Andrew Carrington Hitchcock9. Texe Marrs published this book as well as writing the foreword. The author, Andrew Hitchcock is a noted holocaust denier and antisemite who claims the Jews are actually priests of Lucifer. Hitchcock insists Jews are responsible for orchestrating a “White Genocide,” and creating laws to protect their fabricated myth of a Jewish holocaust at the hands of Adolph Hitler and the Nazi party.
In this book, Hitchcock promotes his beliefs that the Jews have established an international conspiratorial Cabal that is “responsible for virtually all wars, revolutions, financial debacles and social upheavals”10. Hitchcock claims the Jews established groups such as the Bilderbergers, the Freemasons, and the Council of Foreign Relations in order to further their goal of total global domination and the deaths of billions of White people11.
In his book, Hitchcock claims that the Jews own “almost every major book publishing firm in the world”12; that they control all of America money through their central bank13; that they control the world’s gold markets14; that they are behind the funding of radical Islamic terror groups15; that they are influencing the United States Congress to endorse Talmudic laws that will call for the death by beheading of all Christians16; and that, among numerous other fanciful conspiracies, the Jews engineered both the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, and the September 11, 2001 al-Qaeda attacks on the World Trade Center Towers, the Pentagon, and what was likely to be either the White House or the Capitol17.
The Myth of the Six Million: An Examination of the Nazi Extermination Plot by David Hoggan18. This book is another holocaust denial book, this one published by Willis Carto. Carto is best known for his antisemitic conspiracy theories and holocaust denial. Hoggan also promotes the idea that rather than fighting against the Nazi’s in World War II, the United States should have allied with them. Apparently Mr. Hoggan believes America should have assisted Hitler in his quest for world domination and the institution of occult paganism.
AUSCHWITZ: The Final Count by Vivian Bird (Editor).19 This small book contains several holocaust denial essays, including one by Willis Carto (see above). This is not surprising since Carto published this work through his The Barnes Review magazine. “Death books” (bound ledgers containing records of those who died) were kept at Auschwitz during the years 1940 to 1945; but, the death book for the years 1940, 1941, most of 1943, and all of 1944-1945 are missing. Therefore, no one really knows exactly how many people died at Auschwitz. Historians, however, estimate that between 1940 and 1945 as many as 1.1 million people were killed or otherwise died at the Nazi concentration camp. Bird, on the other hand, believes the number is far lower at just over 70,000.20
The Bad War: The Truth Never Taught About World War II by Jeff Rense and Mike King21. This self-published book begins with the same premise as David Hoggan (see above) that the United States was wrong to fight against the Nazi’s in World War II, and should have allied with them. Conspiracy theorists Rense and King take things a step further in this book, by putting forth their beliefs that the Japanese did not rape Nanking, that the war was a prelude to the establishment of a New World Order, and, of course, that the Jews had their hands in everything from the White House to world banking, and more all in their pursuit for global domination22.
Wittenberger’s website also advertises The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, one of the most antisemitic books ever written. Written in 1903 in Russia, translated into multiple languages and distributed throughout the world (auto manufacturing king Henry Ford paid to have half a million copies printed and sent throughout the United States), the book is ostensibly the minutes of a meeting of Jewish leaders that supposedly took place in the 19th century. According to the book, these Jewish leaders discussed their plans for global domination through the manipulation of the press, the economy, and the morals of the Gentiles. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion has been used for the past century by antisemites – including the Nazi’s, to support and promote their hatred for the Jewish people.
The Times of London exposed the book as a fraud in 1921, and by 1938 it had been completely debunked. It still remains, however, a popular work among antisemites.23
Are you beginning to see a pattern here? And it isn’t just Paul Wittenberger. As already noted, antisemitism is rampant in the New IFB. In fact, Wittenberger organized an Anti-Jewish, Anti-Israel “Conference” he called the “Marching to Zion” conference for October 2018 in celebration of both the New IFB hatred of the Jewish people, and the release of his “documentary” film of the same name.24
The New IFB Marching to Zion Conference was held at Stronghold Baptist Church (David Berzins – Pastor), a New IFB church in Atlanta, Georgia, on October 11-13, 2018.25
The conference schedule was to be26:


Day One:
Steven Anderson: “The Fake State of Israel”
Aaron Thompson: “Salvation Equality to the Jew & the Goyim Too”
Donnie Romero: “Replacement Theology”
Grayson Fritts: “Circumcision”
Donnie Romero: “Avoid Genealogies”
Joe Major: “Hollywood, Porn, and Human Trafficking (and the Jews)”


Day Two:
Patrick Boyle: “The Gospel of John Ripping on Jews”
Jonathan Shelley: “Stealing Christ’s Land”
Bruce Mejia: “The Allegory of the Two Sons (Galatians 4)”
Tommy McMurtry: “A Rebuke to Baptist Missions to Israel”
Steven Anderson: “Romans Chapter 11 (and the Jews)”


Day Three:
Discussion with Tommy McMurtry and Joe Major, “The True Temple Mount Location”
Michael Johnson: “The Promises to Israel Were Conditional”
Joe Major: “The Evils of Judaism the Religion”
Adam Fannin: “The Coming Jewish Antichrist”
Dave Berzins: “The Jews Don’t Follow the Torah They Follow the Talmud”


Every message a message of hate. At one point, the conference was abruptly canceled by the ticket sales venue, who suddenly announced the conference canceled and they promptly refunded the ticket price to people who had purchased tickets to the conference. No reason was ever given publicly, but it is likely the sales venue (Event Brite) upon realizing the nature of the conference decided they did not want to be associated with antisemitic hate. When clicking on the link provided by Paul Wittenberger and Steven Anderson to the Event Brite website to purchase conference tickets (www.eventbrite.com/e/marching-to-zion-conference-tickets-47881258132), you are taken to the Event Brite website, but to an error page saying “this page is not available”
This caused the New IFB to go into crisis management / damage control mode, and they were soon putting out videos announcing the conference had not been canceled, and setting up conference registration centers in a local park and a Kentucky Fried Chicken fast food restaurant27.
“Eventbrite has shut down our ability to sign people up for the Marching to Zion Conference for hate speech” Steven Anderson wrote to his followers. “They have cancelled our account and have refunded everyone there tickets. However, that's not going to stop this event. We are asking for people to re-sign up for the event and re-purchase your tickets at Framingtheworld.com. Just follow this link below and purchase a ticket for each person attending the event. So sorry for this inconvenience.” Not wanting to be left out, Jonathan Shelley quickly followed suit and wrote, “#Eventbrite #Cancelled the Marching to Zion #Conference like a bunch of hypocrites. Never use this company!”28
New IFB pastor Michael Johnson of Temple Baptist Church was also “Johnny-on-the-Spot” and put out his own video:

Within weeks after the conference had ended, Bruce Mejia of the then Faithful Word Baptist Church – LA continued the antisemitic rhetoric with a sermon he titled, “Misinterpreted & Out Of Context Scriptures”. In it he said,
“Here’s another verse that people use out of context, Psalm 122, in verse number 6, ‘Pray for the peace of Jerusalem! They shall prosper that love thee.’ Don’t you feel all warm and fuzzy inside? People who..these Zionist Christians, ‘Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.’ Let’s keep reading (chuckles), ’cause when we’re talking about misinterpreted Scriptures and things that are taken out of context. Verse 7, ‘Peace be within thy walls, and prosperity within thy houses, FOR MY BRETHREN and companions sake, I will now say, peace be within thee.’ Who’s they? Who they even talking about? Somebody’s saved brethren! ’Cause he’s saved!
“Now, people, they get all offended at this when we’re like, ‘You know that the Jews are the sons of the devil!’ and all these things. They get so bent out of shape when we say things like that, but we’re just quoting the Lord Jesus Christ.” But is he actually quoting the Lord Jesus Christ as he claims? No, he isn’t. He is, in fact, lying from the pulpit. One need only to continue listening to see this as he goes on to quote Elijah, David, and Jeremiah, but not Jesus. He says, “Look, if it’s wrong to pray against Israel then you need to talk to Elijah. ‘Who maketh intercessions against Israel.’ You need to talk to David in Psalm 69 where he says, ‘May..Let them not be written with the righteous. Let their names be blotted out of the Book of Life.’ Well you say, ‘Oh no, but we need to pray for the land! You know, the lamb!’ Well then you need to talk to Jeremiah when God told him, ‘Pray not for this people!’ He says in Jeremiah 6:17, uh, 7:16, ‘Therefore, pray not for this people. Neither lift up a cry or a prayer for them. Neither make intercession to me for I will not hear thee.’”29
And please notice that when he quotes these Old Testament prophets and King David, he is making reference not to instances where God has not permanently abandoned Israel, but only where He is punishing Israel for their sin. Pastor Mejia recognizes this and states, “So what has changed since then? ‘Well they’re God’s chosen people.’ No. They’re God’s chosen people in the Old Testament when they’re obeying God and following the God of the Bible.” So even though Israel is God’s chosen people – at this point in their history according to Mejia, he still condemns them all, as an entire nation, saying they are not God’s people. He is not only lying (as shown in his own contradictory statements), but he is intentionally obfuscating his lies by making a confusing eisegesis of Scripture!
Mejia goes on, “But when they decided to forsake God and serve Balaam,”30 Okay, wait a minute. Has “Pastor” Mejia even read the Bible? Does he have any idea what happens in it? Israel never served Balaam as he claims. Numbers chapters 22-24 describe Balak trying to get Balaam to curse Israel, but instead Balaam blessed Israel. Four times! Later, he told Balak how to get Israel to fall into sin, which they did, but never at any time does Scripture teach that Israel ever serve Balaam. Mejia does not know what he is talking about. A condition common within the New IFB movement.
Mejia continues his thought by saying, “you know, take up the Star of Remphan, and the tabernacle of Moloch, God says ‘don’t pray for them, they’re done.’”31 Again, this does not mean what Mejia apparently thinks it means. He is referencing Acts 7:43, thinking it is referring to a New Testament occurrence; but what he apparently does not realize is, that, Acts 7:43 is itself a reference to Amos 5:25-27, wherein Amos is prophesying about the then forth coming Babylonian exile was was necessary as punishment for Israel taking up the worship of Moloch and either an Assyrian or Egyptian (or both) celestial god which Amos 5:26 translates as Remphan. The point here is, however, that these transgressions were forgiven and Israel was once again brought back as God’s chosen people.
Mejia continues, “‘Yeah, but we’re in the New Testament.’ Yeah, it’s even worse for them in the New Testament. It’s even worse! They’re treasuring up wrath unto themselves! Okay. And look, God is saying, ‘I’m not hearing you.’” Again Mejia confuses the Old Testament turning away of God from Israel, with the New Testament where He does no such thing. He goes on, “So these guys that want to have prayer meetings and stuff like that for Israel and Jerusalem, you know, you’re just wasting your breath. Go..You accomplish more gossiping (laughs), than praying for Israel. ’Cause at least God will hear gossip and punish you for it. He’ll actually take action. ‘Prayer for Israel? I don’t even know what that guy..I’m not listening. I’m not gonna punish him, I’m not gonna reward him, I’m just not gonna hear him.’ He says, ‘Don’t make intercessions for me.’ So nothing has changed, other than the fact that we’re now God’s chosen people.”32
Here Mejia moves into what is known as “Replacement Theology” (also known as Supersessionism), an unbiblical teaching related to the heresy of Marcionism (in that it removes the Jews as Marcion did, and replaces them with the Church). The New IFB also mistakenly believes Replacement Theology is simply another word for the Reformed doctrine of Covenant Theology33.
Mejia goes on to say in reference to Israel, “No, you guys, here’s the thing: if you are helping those who hate the Lord, wrath is upon you, from before the Lord. If you want their good, and you want them to prosper, then wrath is on you before the Lord. We want to make sure that we stay far clear, steer far clear from helping any ungodly person that hates the Lord, and hates the Lord Jesus Christ.”34 Again, this is a false teaching, based on antisemitic hatred, that claims Israel has long been abandoned by God because it hates God. Nothing could be further from the truth, however. Yes, Judaism continues (so far) to reject the Messiah, but that does not mean it/they hate God. It means they retain an Old Testament understanding of God, and their eyes have not been opened en masse to the reality of the Triune nature of God, and so they continue to reject Jesus. Again, at least so far.
The New IFB is not only blinded by its hatred for others, including the Jews, but it has also hardened its heart to the truth of Scripture. Because of their self-imposed hardness of heart, the New IFB has failed to understand God’s word, and, by extension, God Himself. They have failed to understand the clear and explicit teaching of Scripture in Romans 11:26-27, which states:
“And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.”
Did you catch that? “All Israel shall be saved.” Not may be saved, not might be saved, not could be saved, but will be saved. Furthermore, “There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer” – this is Jesus, “and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob” (Israel). So this is not referring to a past occurrence, but a future event. At some point in the future Jesus will turn Israel away from sin (ungodliness) and He will save them. Nor is this a “may, might, could” happen occurrence, for God states very clearly that the salvation of Israel, by Jesus, is His “covenant unto them” (verse 27). That Israel clearly appears in the Book of Revelation (chapters 7,12,14,21) is further evidence of this New IFB fallacy.
While it should be clear that the New IFB is obviously antisemitic, and anti-Israel, they continue to maintain that they are not. They continue to claim they are simply anti-Zionism. But when New IFB pastor Michael Johnson posted a video where he referred to the “Marching to Zion Conference” as the “Anti-Israel Conference” the proverbial cat was out of the bag. Although Johnson’s entire YouTube channel has since been removed from the internet, screen shots continue exist in cyber space. They are reproduced here.

Thumbnail for one of Michael Johnson’s anti-Israel videos:

Perhaps the most vocal proponent of antisemitism in the New IFB is Steven Anderson himself. Not only does he teach replacement theology, not only does he teach that the Jews are not God’s chosen people (both doctrines, as we have seen, are antithetical to Scripture), but he will justify his antisemitic teachings by claiming they are not antisemitic because there is no such thing as antisemitic. He simply states there are no such people as Jews anymore. They don’t exist. Therefore, since the Jews don’t really exist, no one can be antisemitic.35 Don’t even try to understand his logic. You can’t because there is no logic to his explanation. It is sort of like covering your head and thinking, no, believing, that you cannot be seen because you cannot see anyone else. It ignores the evidence that is obvious to everyone else (such as the rest of your body in full view, or the millions of Jews worldwide), simply because doing so fits your personal viewpoint.
Anderson also takes antisemitism to the next obvious step, and he denies the nation of Israel. “It’s a fraud” he exclaims, saying the Jews that returned to Israel weren’t really Jews. The Jews, he says, “they didn’t come back!” Anderson claims the Jews who have been populating Israel since 1948 are not Jews, but rather Ashkenazi’s who are white people from Caucasus region of Europe. This is more commonly known as the “Khazar Myth” and it has been thoroughly debunked for many years. Of course, as with most conspiracy theorists, Anderson believes the evidence debunking the Khazar conspiracy is actually part of the conspiracy itself, believing it was the Jews who created the evidence in order to protect themselves and discredit those whom the conspiracy theorists believe have debunked the Jews. This is why normal people don’t often try to deal with conspiracy theorists. Their beliefs will make your head spin!
Anderson explains, “Let me tell you something. The Jews – not only were they scattered as a punishment in AD 70 and AD 135, they’ve been hated in every country that they’ve ever lived in for the last 2,000 years. In fact, did you know that – I believe 51 countries throughout history have expelled all the Jews. ‘Cause the one that you think of is 1492, when they were kicked out of Spain, but they’ve been kicked out of England, kicked out of the Netherlands, kicked out of Germany, kicked out of France, over and over again. You know, all throughout history. Even the Rabbis will tell you that they’ve been hated and persecuted in every single country they’ve ever lived in for the last 2,000 years. And people will say ‘Oh, that’s ‘cause they’re God’s people, that’s why they’re hated.’ No, Jesus Christ said in Matthew 24, – and isn’t Matthew 24 the chapter where they try to say ‘oh, this is just to the Jews?’ – In Matthew 24, Jesus Christ said this: ‘you shall be hated of all men for my name’s sake.’ Now have the Jews been hated for the name of Jesus? No, they’ve been hated because of being bankers, and they’ve been hated for blaspheming Jesus, but they dead-sure have not been hated because of Jesus’ name. They don’t claim the name of Jesus, okay. So why have they been persecuted, and hated, and kicked out of every country, you know, over the course of the last few thousand years? Simply this: They’re under the curse of God for rejecting the Lord Jesus Christ.”36
Did you catch what he did there? Using Matthew 24:9, “Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.”, as evidence of the Jews being under the curse of God. Of course, the problem with this becomes painfully clear when you read the passage in context, especially from verse 3 down through verse 31 where it is clear that Jesus is talking to His disciples, not the Jews. Jesus is teaching that it is Christians who will be persecuted for his name’s sake. Not the Jews. But this is the only way Anderson and others in the New IFB are able to make their unbiblical doctrines appear in Scripture: by twisting it until it is a mangled mess that no longer resembles the inspired word of God.
And, if he is going to claim that the Jews are not the Jews, then the next obvious step is to deny the holocaust, and that is precisely what Anderson does. In a video released by Anderson, but later removed by YouTube because of its obvious racist and antisemitic tone, Anderson begins by emphatically stating he is not a racist. That he loves Jews, and that he has personally pleaded with Jews to come to Christ for salvation.37 But at the end of the day, those are just words, and when the actions associated with those words are contrary to the extreme, then those actions speak far louder than the words alone.
As we have already seen, Steven Anderson and his New IFB movement have gone out of their way to vehemently express their beliefs that the Jews are evil, wicked, controlling, greedy lovers of money, manipulative, are fraudulently occupying the nation of Israel, do not even really exist as a people, are fraudulently claiming to be Jews, are engaged in a fraudulent religion, and more.38 If these awful doctrines of the New IFB don’t qualify as racist and antisemitic, then nothing does. And, in addition to the doctrines of devils being taught by Anderson and his New IFB, He and they also actively and passionately deny the holocaust.
Anderson’s position is that the holocaust is a hoax, a scam, and a Jewish conspiracy. He claims that it is illegal in fourteen countries39 (although this is demonstrably false40), a fact which Anderson claims is proof of a Jewish conspiracy to promote the holocaust41.
He continues his case promoting the holocaust as a Jewish conspiracy by saying six million Jews were not killed and subsequently cremated by the Nazi’s. Anderson claims the number is far too high, and he claims it is a number decided on by the Jews long before Adolph Hitler was elected President of Germany in 1934, perhaps even before his appointment to Chancellor in 1933. Anderson teaches the commonly accepted number of six million Jews killed by the Nazi’s was a foreordained number chosen by the Jews because, as he says, “the Jews love numbers. That’s what the kabbalah is all about.”
He goes on, “Think about all the things they [the Jews] fixate on that contain the number six. They have a 6 pointed star, 6 million dead in the holocaust, the 6 days war, and how many supposed death camps were there? Well, of course, there were 6. You know if you look through the list, Auschwitz, Treblinka, Kulmhof, Sobibor, Majdanek and Belzec. So that number is before ordained”42 (there were actually nine43, but hey, he was on a roll at this point). Anderson continues, “You can even find ten newspaper articles from before Hitler was even elected where they’re talking about 6 million Jews are gonna be killed, 6 million Jews, 6 million Jews. So that number is like a magic number to them. That 6 million figure. It’s not really based on real history and science. It’s just a number that was foreordained.”44
He goes on, “So yeah, you can change the total at Auschwitz from 4 million to 1.5 million or down below a million, but hey, it’s 6 million total and shut up and believe it because we said so. Now, let’s talk about the number of people that were killed at Auschwitz.”
The problem with Anderson’s argument, however, is that he draws from only part of the research that has been done regarding the number of Jews murdered by the Nazi’s during World War Two. He draws on only those parts of the research that he can twist and reinterpret (or misinterpret) so he can shoe-horn it into his revisionist presentation of history.
What we do know, and that Anderson conveniently omits, is that Dr. William Hoettl, an Austrian Nazi Party member with the rank of SS-Sturmbannführer and the acting head of intelligence and counter espionage for Hitler, and who said under oath on more than one occasion that the number was six million. The first time was during the Nuremberg war trials in 1945, and the second time was during the trial of Adolph Eichmann in 1961. Hoettl testified that Eichmann, who was responsible for the logistics for the of the Jewish genocide, told him in August 1944 that the number of Jews who perished at the hands of the Nazis was about six million – four million in the extermination camps and another two million at the hands of the Einsatzgruppen (the Nazi death squads) who shot them, as well as those who died via starvation, disease, and other forms of neglect while in Nazi custody45.
Yad Vashem, the World Holocaust Remembrance Center, reports there are several scholars who all confirm the numbers are between five and six million. The center reports that these estimates are derived through the examination of both pre and post World War II census data and population estimates, as well as the detailed records kept by the Nazi’s recording deportations and gassings. The Center itself maintains a list of documented Jewish holocaust victims. To date the list contains more than four million names. The number is undoubtedly more considering the Russians have yet to release all of their captured Nazi records46.
Raul Hilberg, the world’s preeminent scholar on the holocaust, wrote in his magnum opus, “The Destruction of the European Jews” in 1961, that the number of Jews killed by the Nazi’s as part of their “Final Solution to the Jewish Question” was 5.1 million. In the 1985 edition he provided a detailed explanation of exactly how he arrived that that estimate47.
In 1975, award winning historian Lucy Schildkret Dawidowicz wrote in her book, “The War Against the Jews,” that using pre and post war birth and death records she was able to narrow the figure to 5,933,90048.
During the mid to late 1990’s, preeminent German historian Wolfgang Benz reported his findings after being allowed access to government archives in Eastern Europe, by which he was able to determine the number of Jews killed by the Nazi’s was between 5.29 million and 6.2 million49.
When one notices the contrasting numbers it is easy to conclude that no one knows what they are talking about. Which is similar to Steven Anderson’s conspiracy theory conclusion. However, it is important to remember two things. The first is that researchers can only use the information they have access to, and some researchers obviously have access to records and research material that other researchers do not have access to. Equally important is that the six million figure was never meant to be a precise number of victims. It has always been an estimate, a best guess based on available records and expert testimony. As the recent expert research has shown (such as noted here), however, the number is reasonably accurate, perhaps more so than many have ever realized.
Anderson then concludes his video with one of the strangest monologues possible. He begins with a long drawn out explanation of how it was humanly impossible for the Nazi’s to have killed and cremated the number of Jews that are claimed to have been killed and cremated. But he presents inaccurate and incomplete information upon which he bases his claim. He claims most of those who were cremated died of natural causes and were not killed by the Nazis. He claims to have done the research, and he invites others to do their own research. However, his research is limited only to other holocaust deniers (likely because holocaust deniers believe that all research done by non-holocaust researchers is tainted by the Jews and their supporters); and he knows full well that most people are not as committed to the facts and figures regarding the Holocaust as he and other holocaust deniers believe they are (they are actually committed to furthering their conspiracy theory).50
Anderson then goes into another long drawn out explanation, this time regarding the word holocaust. He says that as he was reading his Spanish Bible (La Santa Biblia) and learned that Noah offered “un holocausto to the Lord” when he got off the ark, and he determined the word meant “the whole burnt offering.” Anderson is close, although the text does not say “un holocausto” as he says it does when he quotes it. The reference is to Genesis 8:20, which reads, “Y edificó Noé un altar a Jehová, y tomó de todo animal limpio y de toda ave limpia, y ofreció holocausto en el altar.”51 The phrase Anderson is referring to is, “y ofreció holocausto en el altar” and not “un holocausto” as he claims. This is the beginning of where he goes horribly wrong in his eisegetical interpretation of the text.
The phrase is translated as, “and offered holocaust on the altar.” The word “holocaust” is translated from the Greek word holocauston, which, in turn, is a translation of the Hebrew word `olah, which refers to a burnt sacrifice. Anderson then takes this very simple understanding of the word holocaust, and claims that since the “final solution to the Jewish question” was known as the “holocaust,” this clearly means that the supposed goals was to “kill all the Jews and cremate them all.” He claims this is what the holocaust actually means. He then explains that since the entire Jewish race was not all killed and cremated in World War II, then the holocaust didn’t actually happen. “My point is this,” he says, “if there was no mass cremation of millions and millions of Jews, then can you really call it the holocaust anymore?”
That anyone can actually accept the complete suspension of rational thought necessary to believe such nonsense is difficult to accept. And yet here we have Steven Anderson on video that has been preserved for posterity demonstrating this very thing. It takes very little time and effort to do the research and learn that most of the Jewish victims who were cremated were burned in pits, trenches, and pyres. Not in the crematoria. Anderson claims this method would be inadequate for the destruction of the bodies. As we see here, Anderson begins with a premise (that the Nazi’s were intent on both killing all of the Jews and then cremating all of the bodies) that simply has no basis in reality.
While the Nazi’s were intent on ridding the world of Jews, the burning of the bodies was simply a method utilized to help alleviate the problem of stacks of dead bodies. Their primary goal was to eradicate the Jews. Remove them the planet. To achieve this psychopathic end they shot them. By the thousands. They then took the bodies and dumped them in pits, trenches, ravines, and on pyres. Many of the bodies they burned in the pits and on the pyres. Did these fires consume the bodies completely? No, of course not. But to be brutally frank, it is far easier to dispose of the remains once they had been burned in such a manner, than it would have been had they been simply shot and buried. The burning of the bodies, you see, was nothing more than a means to an end. When the statistics are matched with the methods, it quickly becomes apparent that around six million Jews were systematically exterminated52.
Steven Anderson and his New IFB movement deny the existence of the Nazi death camps (claiming they were all simply forced labor camps. What he and they fail to mention and/or understand is that thousands died at the hands of the Nazi’s while in these camps. Virtually all of the Nazi concentration camps, regardless of their initial purpose, became a death camp to one degree or another.
Anderson tries to claim that the Nazi’s simply wanted the Jews to leave Germany, and not necessarily to exterminate them. He points to a commemorative coin bearing both the Nazi swastika and the star of David as evidence of this. He claims the Nazi’s and the Jews were working hand in hand to accomplish this. He even references the Haavara Agreement of August 193353 (between National Socialists and German Zionists) as evidence of this. What he has either failed or chosen to mention is that the Haavara Agreement was nothing more than a precursory stage of what became known as the “Final Solution to the Jewish Question”, which was the Nazi plan to rid Germany (and the world) of all Jews. While the Haavara Agreement served to relocate some 60,000 Jews to British Palestine between 1933 and 1939, as the war broke out the Nazi’s soon realized that this plan was no longer feasible, and another plan, one that worked within the parameters of war the Nazi’s had instituted against the world, was necessary.
Anderson finishes his antisemitic video diatribe of nonsensical myths and debunked conspiracy theories by making several comments that can only be described as insulting. Insulting to the Jewish people, insulting to those unfortunate enough to view his video (by assuming they are too stupid to realize he is merely regurgitating the same tired old long refuted antisemitic garbage), and insulting to God by claiming to be a Christian while exhibiting a hatred on par with the Nazi’s he laughingly claims he does not approve of.
He claims the reason the Nazi’s shaved the Jews heads and made them take showers (Anderson claims the showers were regular showers, and not gas chambers) was because, well, they are Jews so, you know filthy and diseased and head lice. More racist antisemitic language.
As with virtually all holocaust deniers, Anderson creates a straw man argument, saying things such as the holocaust is about six million Jews being sent straight to death camps where they were murdered, the photographs of the emaciated corpses proves there was no holocaust because it proves they weren’t sent straight to their deaths upon reaching the camps and there aren’t any photos of six million dead Jews, and there are no credible witnesses to the gas chambers or cremations, and the Jews deny that Jesus is the Messiah therefore they are all liars and are thus lying about the holocaust, and he then proceeds to tear down the straw man he has built and say it proves the holocaust did not happen.
In order to show that all Jews will go to hell, Anderson makes reference to Matthew 8:12, “But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” and he says that this verse shows all Jesus will go to hell. However, as he often does, Anderson eisegetes the text rather than exegetes it, and his explanation defies all rational understanding as it ignores numerous explicitly taught Scripture in order to support what Anderson already believes. The passage is referring to theocratic Jews who believed that because they were trusting in the law to save them, rather than for God to save them (which is contrary to what God has always taught, even in regard to the law (see Romans 7:7-25), and who thus believed they were children of the kingdom. Jesus was simply using language they would recognize as being about themselves.
Anderson claims the reason the Jews lie about the holocaust is because without the holocaust, the nation of Israel would not exist. He says the holocaust was the “justification for going into Palestine and stealing the land from the Arabs who lived there, and killing a bunch of Palestinians and kicking them out, and putting them into a giant concentration camp known as Gaza or the West Bank.”
He claims the United Nations and the Rothchilds and the World Government, etc., were behind creation of the nation of Israel; and Zionism was created by the Jews to manipulate the United States into supporting Israel, and has caused the Muslims to hate Americans. It’s all the Jews fault.
He then offers some research options for those who want to research the holocaust for themselves. He recommends:
The Holocaust Hoax Exposed by Victor Thorn
Auschwitz The Case for Sanity by Carlo Mattogno
The Hoax of the Twentieth Century: The Case Against the Presumed Extermination of European Jewry by Arthur Butz
All three are standard holocaust denial books.
At the end of the day, the holocaust denial doctrine of Steven Anderson, as with the entire holocaust denial movement, is filled with uninformed suppositions and speculations coupled with their own misanthropic misrepresentations of the facts. Their tactics are almost uniform throughout the movement. They do irrelevant calculations based on their own ignorance in order to "prove" their claims. Quite often they will hyper focus on a specific, usually obscure aspect of the holocaust while ignoring the totality of the whole. They ignore the all of the historical evidence in favor of their presuppoitionally biased calculations. The purpose of the tactics is to cast doubt on that specific claim, and then they leave it up to others to come in and disprove them. Most people will not take the time to fully research the holocaust, and the deniers like Anderson not only know this, but they count on it. If they are able to cast doubt on any particular aspect of the holocaust, then they have then succeeded in creating doubt in the average persons mind regarding the whole of the holocaust. Once one is doubtful about one aspect, they will never be sure regarding what they know about the rest.
This is the goal of the holocaust denier. They cannot be dissuaded by rational arguments or logic or even irrefutable documented evidence. They are usually so thoroughly indoctrinated, so completely infused with antisemitism and an irrational hatred of Jews; and so convinced that the Jews are behind a vast shadowy international cabal operating with the goal of destroying the (white) western world, and establishing global domination with the center of their power located in Israel, that they can only be changed by a miracle of God.
Luke 24:46-47 says, "And [Jesus] said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: 47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.”
To whom? To the very Jews that called for Christ’s crucifixion. Why? Because, as the Apostle Paul makes very clear in his epistle to the Romans, God continues to love the Jews and is clearly not done with them yet. He still intends on saving the remnant of His children that are found among the Jewish people. Compare this with Isaiah 37:4; Ezra 9:8; Nehemiah 1:2; Haggai 1:12; Isaiah 10:22; and Zephaniah 2:7. See God’s message to Elijah in 1 Kings 19, He will reserve for Himself a remnant. See God’s message to Ezekiel 6, He will reserve for Himself a remnant. See the 144,000 Jews reserved for the Lord in Revelation 7 and 14. See Isaiah 37:31, the Tribe of Judah will be a remnant preserved for the Lord. Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ came though the Tribe of Judah! (Matthew 1:1-6; Luke 3:31-34). God will always reserve for Himself a remnant of His people from among the Jews, “Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved”! (Romans 9:27). While Steven Anderson is quick to write off the Jews, God is not going to write them off as easily as Anderson.



Conclusion
As we have seen throughout this examination of Steven Anderson and his New IFB movement, they are anything but Christian, regardless of what they call themselves. From criminal activity engaged in by movement leaders, to documented lying to their congregants from the pulpit; from rampant hypocrisy to widespread denial of the biblical Jesus, replacing Him with either a modalist deity or a trithesitic deity; from slander and character assassination to orchestrated attacks designed to destroy the reputation of a person; from obvious unbiblical and anti-biblical doctrines to demonically inspired hatred, the New IFB movement is the antithesis of biblical, God honoring, Christ worshiping, Holy Spirit led Christianity.
For those who are involved with the New IFB Movement, it would serve you well to remove yourselves as fast and as far from it as you possibly can.
For those who have been exposed to the New IFB Movement, run! Run as far and as fast as you can away from it! Do not hesitate! Run for your very spiritual lives!
For those who may be contemplating involving themselves and they family in this movement, please reconsider. Please think very hard about becoming involved with this ear tickling cult. They only want to hook you and drag you into their movement and further increase their numbers, their influence, and their reach.
For all of you, please remember the God inspired words of the Apostle Paul instructs the body in 2 Corinthians 6:14-18,
14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.











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In answer to your inquiry :


National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of cannibalism.


Anti-semitism is of advantage to the exploiters as a lightning conductor that deflects the blows aimed by the working people at capitalism. Anti-semitism is dangerous for the working people as being a false path that leads them off the right road and lands them in the jungle. Hence Communists, as consistent internationalists, cannot but be irreconcilable, sworn enemies of anti-semitism.


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2. How to Hate a Jew
sanderson1611
Date unknown, this video has since been removed from YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyOhrl_lrIA
Accessed 10 October 2019


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File001
Published August 10, 2018
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Two sermons against the Jews on one video.
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Discerner of Spirits
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ckvynXHBj0
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5. Differences between Old IFB and New IFB
sanderson1611
Published on Sep 17, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXyI0FwwEz4
Accessed 10 October 2019
Note: In this video, Anderson also states that the New IFB is completely intolerant of LGBT, that they hate LGBT, and not just the sin of homosexuality, but also homosexuals themselves. This is borne out by the refusal of New IFB churches to even allow homosexuals into their church buildings to hear a sermon, their refusal to share the gospel with them, and their insistence that ALL homosexuals are reprobate and beyond any hope for salvation (contrary to 1 Corinthians 6:9-11). Also in this video, Anderson references both Donnie Romero (by sin, not by name) and mentions Romero stole money from the church – thus admitting his complicity by not turning Romero over to the police, and telling everyone else to not say anything because, “we have to keep Donnie out of jail.” and he also references Paul Berg (again by sin and not name) as the “Layman who was found out to be a pervert, we exposed him and turned him over to the police!” (not an exact quote, see video at the 12:00 mark). He goes on to say that while the Old IFB is generally pro-Republican in their politics, the New IFB is staunchly against both parties, and is staunchly anti-War, what Anderson calls “more of a Ron Paul Republican type of view.” He says, “We’re against the military industrial complex and the warfare state, call us (scare quotes) conspiracy theorists (scare quotes) or whatever.” He goes on to say the New IFB is anti-birth control. Next, Anderson says New IFB sermons are “expository in nature.” Seriously? Maybe in a twisted Scripture sort of way. Maybe more of an “Eisegetical exposition” of the Bible. He defines expository as going verse by verse. Exegesis is technical and grammatical exposition, a careful drawing out of the exact meaning of a passage in its original context. {To prepare an expository sermon, the preacher starts with a passage of Scripture and then studies the grammar, the context, and the historical setting of that passage in order to understand the author’s intent. In other words, the expositor is also an exegete—one who analyzes the text carefully and objectively. (See our article “What is the difference between exegesis and eisegesis?”) Once the preacher understands the meaning of the passage, he then crafts a sermon to explain and apply it. The result is expository preaching. https://www.gotquestions.org/expository-preaching.html}. He goes on to say the New IFB is anti-Bible College. He says the pastors in the New IFB “believe in teaching all the heavy Bible doctrine in church, Sunday morning, Sunday night, Wednesday night, they’ll teach the heavy doctrine.” He says the Old IFB is into Christian school, but the New IFB is all about Home schooling (which he ironically spells “home shool”). He says, “we’re also into not vaccinating our children, and taking a more alternative view to medicine sometimes such as home birth and breast feeding the baby and doing things more naturally and holistically,” He says that all the things they deviate on from the Old IFB – such as noted here, are “actually an improvement in every case. If you actually compare these things side by side, you’ll see that in every case we’ve gotten closer to the word of God. We’ve actually tightened things up and improved things.” He claims that being anti-Zionist and anti-Jewish is a biblical viewpoint. He says the New IFB is led by the Holy Spirit. It’s interesting that Anderson keeps talking about the Old IFB from its beginnings in the 1940’s as being “traditional” and the “old paths.” Mid-20th century is not old with regard to Christianity, nor Christian tradition. That would be the early centuries AD. Maybe that’s why they are so willing to accept the pre-Wrath thing which didn’t exist until the 1990’s. These are the core doctrinal distinctives of the New IFB, held by every New IFB church.


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Accessed 10 October 2019


9. The Synagogue of Satan: The Secret History of Jewish World Domination, by Andrew Carrington Hitchcock, RiverCrest Publishing, May 19, 2007, Accessed 10 October 2019


10. European-American Evangelistic Crusades Website Bookstore
Entry for “The Synagogue of Satan” by Andrew Carrington Hitchcock
http://www.eaec.org/bookstore/books/the_synagogue_of_satan.htm
Accessed 10 October 2019


11. Ibid


12. The Synagogue of Satan by Andrew Carrington Hitchcock, page 8, Accessed 10 October 2019


13. Ibid, page 37


14. Ibid, page 104


15. Ibid, page 199


16. Ibid, page 218


17. Ibid, page 25


18. The Myth of the Six Million: An Examination of the Nazi Extermination Plot, by David Hoggan, Noontide Press, 1978, Accessed 10 October 2019


19. AUSCHWITZ: The Final Count by Vivian Bird (Editor), The Barnes Review, 2000, Accessed 10 October 2019


20. Vivian Bird: Auschwitz: The Final Count, A Review, By Richard A. Widmann, Published: 1999-01-01, https://codoh.com/library/document/508/?lang=en, Accessed 07 October 2019, Note: codoh.com is the website for the Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust, a holocaust denial group, Accessed 10 October 2019


21. The Bad War: The Truth Never Taught about World War II, by Jeff Rense and Mike King, self-published, © 2015 Accessed 10 October 2019


22. Ibid


23. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion, accessed 07 October 2019
Accessed 10 October 2019


24. Marching to Zion Conference, https://store.framingtheworld.com/products/m2z-conference, accessed 07 October 2019


25. Sermon Topics for Anti-Israel Conference
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on Sep 10, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aUVmyr0t1A
Accessed 10 October 2019


Marching to Zion Conference | Day 1 Schedule
(Paul Wittenberger)
The New IFB
Sep 23, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCKjtr0KPlg
Accessed 10 October 2019


Marching to Zion Conference | Day 2 Schedule
(Paul Wittenberger)
The New IFB
Sep 24, 2018
Accessed 10 October 2019


Marching to Zion Conference | Day 3 Schedule
(Paul Wittenberger)
The New IFB
Sep 24, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMdiSt9HO7Q
Accessed 10 October 2019


26. Ibid


27. “Marching to Zion Conference is Not Cancelled”
Framing the World
Published October 3, 2018
Notes: Eventbrite has shut down our ability to sign people up for the Marching to Zion Conference for hate speech. They have cancelled our account and have refunded everyone there tickets. However, that's not going to stop this event. We are asking for people to re-sign up for the event and re-purchase your tickets at Framingtheworld.com. Just follow this link below and purchase a ticket for each person attending the event. So sorry for this inconvenience.
URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtIHHkZ6xps&t=1s
Accessed 10 October 2019


28. Eventbrite Cancels Registration But Marching to Zion Conference CONTINUES
Pure Words Baptist Church
Published October 4, 2018
Notes: #Eventbrite #Cancelled the Marching to Zion #Conference like a bunch of hypocrites. Never use this company!
URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6hT7PlAOqE&t=3s
Accessed 10 October 2019


29. Misinterpreted & Out Of Context Scriptures | Bro. Bruce Mejia
Fwbc La
Published on Oct 29, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl0aQtWyBv4
Accessed 10 October 2019


Pray for the peace of Jerusalem nonsense
File001 [Bruce Mejia preaching]
Published on Nov 8, 2018
Excerpt from sermon "Misinterpreted & Out Of Context Scriptures", preached by Evangelist Bruce Mejia from Faithful Word Baptist Church, Los Angeles, California, 10/29/18, PM. "Misinterpreted & Out Of Context Scriptures" sermon https://youtu.be/Hl0aQtWyBv4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V21JYKAruY
Accessed 10 October 2019


30. Ibid


31. Ibid


32. Ibid


33. Differences between Old IFB and New IFB
sanderson1611
Published on September 17, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXyI0FwwEz4
accessed on 13 October 2019
While Replacement Theology replaces Israel with the Church as God’s chosen people, and subscribes all of God’s promises to Israel to the Church instead; Covenant Theology does not. Covenant Theology teaches that the Church, and not national Israel, is the Israel of God mentioned in Galatians 6:16. At the same time, however, Covenant Theology does not exclude Israel from the Church, and believes it will, in time, come to accept Jesus as their Messiah and be included in the Israel of God, which is another term for the true believers of God. It has always meant that, and had never meant national Israel. See Romans chapter 11.


34. Ibid


35. The New IFB admits that they are anti-Israel
It it wan’t clear enough by the claims that Israel loves occupation and likes murdering Palestinians, it now has been made clear that the New IFB is actually self-admitting to being anti-Israel. Several months ago, when Tyler Doka was still on the up-and-up in the New IFB, he criticized the militarygetsaved Baptist Church directory for calling his church Anti-Israel. But now, Pastor Johnson has uploaded a video admitting that the Marching to Zion conference is not just an anti-zionism conference, but anti-Israel. See the screenshots of the video title below.
http://newifb.info/index.php/2018/10/07/the-new-ifb-admits-that-they-are-anti-israel/
Posted to the New IFB website on 07 October 2018
[Note: The YouTube Channel of Michael Johnson & Temple Baptist Church has been removed by YouTube, therefore the video’s noted here are no longer available on YouTube. Good for YouTube]
Accessed 10 October 2019


35. No Such Thing as "ANTI-SEMITIC"
sanderson1611
Published on Mar 8, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa1uxLEZy80
Accessed 10 October 2019


36. 1948 Was a Fraud
sanderson1611
Published on Jun 22, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8i-Py5BXP0
Accessed 10 October 2019


37. Laws against Holocaust denial
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial
Accessed 10 October 2019


16 specifically illegal & 5 more which include holocaust denial as part of other laws, for a total of 21 countries.
There are a total of sixteen countries that have made holocaust denial a criminal offense: Australia, Austria, Belgium, Czech Republic, France, Germany, Greece, Hungry, Israel, Italy, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Poland, Romania, Russia, and Slovakia.
There are an additional five countries where although denial of the holocaust is not specifically a crime, it is included within the description of similar crimes:
Liechtenstein (though not specifically illegal, denial of genocide and other crimes against humanity is an imprisonable offense),
The Netherlands (though not specifically illegal, it is included in this country’s hate crime and anti-discrimination laws),
Portugal (though not specifically illegal, denial of war crimes if used to promote racism or discrimination is an imprisonable offense),
Spain (though denial is not illegal, justifying the holocaust is an imprisonable offense),
Switzerland (though not specifically illegal, denial of genocide and other crimes against humanity is an imprisonable offense).
These twenty-one countries will prosecute holocaust denial either under their laws specifically identifying holocaust denial as a criminal offense, or under their existing hate crime laws, anti-discrimination laws, denazification laws, and crimes against humanity laws. Contrary to Anderson’s claim, most of these laws are specifically pro-Jewish or pro-Israel. They are, however, pro-humanity which is a decidedly biblical teaching and decidedly against everything Steven Anderson and the New IFB stand for, believe, and teach.
38. Pastor Steven Anderson – The Holocaust Hoax Exposed
Originally published by Steven Anderson to YouTube, but subsequently removed by YouTube as being in violation of community standards. It was then uploaded to Bitchute by the “Phoenix Party Fascists” on July 3rd, 2019, where it can still be viewed at: https://www.bitchute.com/video/2aK4j795mQ0v/
Accessed 10 October 2019


Steven Anderson advances holocaust-denying conspiracy theories.
https://newifb.info/index.php/2018/07/26/steven-anderson-advances-holocaust-denying-conspiracy-theories/
Accessed 10 October 2019


Steven Anderson uses Jews’ persecutions against them
https://newifb.info/index.php/2018/07/25/steven-anderson-uses-jews-persecutions-against-them/
Accessed 10 October 2019


39. Ibid
40. Ibid


41. Pastor Steven Anderson – The Holocaust Hoax Exposed
Originally published by Steven Anderson to YouTube, but subsequently removed by YouTube as being in violation of community standards. It was then uploaded to Bitchute by the “Phoenix Party Fascists” on July 3rd, 2019, where it can still be viewed at: https://www.bitchute.com/video/2aK4j795mQ0v/
Accessed 10 October 2019


42. Ibid


43. Extermination camps: Chełmno (Kulmhof), Bełżec, Sobibór, Treblinka, Auschwitz-Birkenau, Majdanek, Maly-Trostenets, Sajmište (initially an extermination camp, later became a work camp), & Jadovono-Jasenovac (an extermination camp established by Nazi sympathetic Croatia
[Mauthausen, Dachau, Bergen-Belsen, Buchenwald, etc., were work camps, not extermination camps, however, at all works camps people were murdered just as they were at the extermination camps. The essential difference between the two types of camps was, people who went to the extermination camps were sent there to be killed; and at the concentration camps, aka work camps, the people were separated with some being assigned to forced labor and others being assigned to be killed.]
Extermination camp https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp
German camps in occupied Poland during World War II https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_camps_in_occupied_Poland_during_World_War_II
Nazi concentration camps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camps
Accessed 10 October 2019


44. Pastor Steven Anderson – The Holocaust Hoax Exposed
Originally published by Steven Anderson to YouTube, but subsequently removed by YouTube as being in violation of community standards. It was then uploaded to Bitchute by the “Phoenix Party Fascists” on July 3rd, 2019, where it can still be viewed at: https://www.bitchute.com/video/2aK4j795mQ0v/
Accessed 10 October 2019


45. Holocaust Facts: Where Does the Figure of 6 Million Victims Come From?
Considering the amount of original research that has been done in recent decades, is this number still considered accurate by scholars of the subject?
Haaretz | 01.05.201
https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/holocaust-remembrance-day/6-million-where-is-the-figure-from-1.5319546
Accessed 10 October 2019


46. Ibid
47. Ibid
48. Ibid


49. Dimension of Genocide: The Number of Jewish Victims of National Socialism (Sources and Representations on Contemporary History) by Wolfgang Benz, published by DeGruyter Oldenbourg, German Edition, 1991
The Holocaust: A German Historian Examines the Genocide by Wolfgang Benz, Columbia University Press, 1999
Accessed 10 October 2019


50. Pastor Steven Anderson – The Holocaust Hoax Exposed
Originally published by Steven Anderson to YouTube, but subsequently removed by YouTube as being in violation of community standards. It was then uploaded to Bitchute by the “Phoenix Party Fascists” on July 3rd, 2019, where it can still be viewed at: https://www.bitchute.com/video/2aK4j795mQ0v/
Accessed 10 October 2019


Steven Anderson advances holocaust-denying conspiracy theories.
https://newifb.info/index.php/2018/07/26/steven-anderson-advances-holocaust-denying-conspiracy-theories/
Accessed 10 October 2019


Steven Anderson uses Jews’ persecutions against them
https://newifb.info/index.php/2018/07/25/steven-anderson-uses-jews-persecutions-against-them/
Accessed 10 October 2019


51. Reina-Valera 1960 (RVR1960), Versión Reina-Valera 1960 © Sociedades Bíblicas en América Latina, 1960. Renovado © Sociedades Bíblicas Unidas, 1988. Since this is the version of Santa Biblia based on the Masoretic Text and the Textus Receptus (as is the King James Version), it would naturally be the version used by Steven Anderson. Accessed 10 October 2019


52. Body Disposal at Auschwitz: The End of Holocaust Denial by John C. Zimmerman, Associate Professor, University of Nevada, Las Vegas. Accessed 10 October 2019


53. Haavara Agreement
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
Accessed 10 October 2019

The violence and hatred inherent in the New IFB movement is not limited to Steven Anderson’s pulpit messages and the plethora of assault videos on YouTube, as can be seen in the following examples.
On July 17, 2016, Richard Miller, an early protégé of Steven Anderson gave a sermon titled, “What A Time To Be Alive” while at Anderson’s church. During this sermon, Miller talked about what he called the “manly things”, such as shooting guns, hunting food, and fighting. According to Miller, these are what men and only men do. “It’s a manly thing to fight! It’s something that men do,” Miller said. He went on to exclaim, “if you’re a man, you oughta love to fight!”1 Miller gave this sermon after attending Anderson’s church for several years, and shortly before Anderson ordained Miller to the ministry. It seems odd that Anderson would ordain Miller as a pastor after giving a sermon such as this one, especially considering God’s word clearly states in Titus 1:7 that one of the qualifications for being a pastor is that the man is not a “striker” meaning he cannot be a contentious or pugnacious person. And, in 1 Timothy 3:3, God’s word states that a pastor can not only not be a “striker,” but also cannot be a “brawler” which is from the Greek word, amachon, meaning the person is peaceable, not prone to fighting, not contentious. In other words, Anderson’s protoge is saying one thing, and the Bible is saying the complete opposite with regard to being violent.
In spite of his obvious lack of biblical qualifications, Anderson ordained him anyway, and sent him out to Tennessee to begin “Soul Winning Baptist Church”.2 According to Anderson, with a name like that it cannot do away with soul winning, otherwise it might just as well shut down. And that is exactly what happened. Within months of being ordained and opening his new church, Miller simply walked away from the church, severing all affiliation with Anderson and his New IFB movement.3
Pastor Jonathan Shelley of Pure Words Baptist Church and the Stedfast Baptist Church group of churches, and also a protégé of Steven Anderson, takes the violence to an entirely new level, and brings it into the home when he teaches that beating and killing children is mandatory. In a sermon he gave titled, “Honour Thy Mother and They Father,”4 Shelley points to Proverbs 23:12-15 which states,
“12 Apply thine heart unto instruction, and thine ears to the words of knowledge. 13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. 14 Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. 15 My son, if thine heart be wise, my heart shall rejoice, even mine.”
In his “exposition” of this passage, Shelley states that parents who refuse to discipline and correct their children are disobedient to God and actually hate their children. He claims that beating children is just as mandatory as the Ten Commandments. After reading this passage from Proverbs, Shelley goes on to say, “If ya don’t want your kids to go to hell, ya gotta beat ‘em! Ya gotta train ‘em, ya gotta chasten ‘em, ya gotta scourge ‘em! And we see very clearly from this passage, it’s not a suggestion. Verse 14, ‘Thou Shalt Beat Him,’ that’s the same as all the other Ten Commandments.”
While the passage does say a child is to be “beat...with the rod,” while the words “beat” and “rod” quite literally mean what they say, and the passage is teaching the importance of corporal punishment, the “rod” is not to be taken literally, but metaphorically. As Tedd Tripp writes in his book, “Shepherding a Child’s Heart,” “The rod is a parent, in faith toward God and faithfulness toward his or her children, undertaking the responsibility of careful, timely, measured, and controlled use of physical punishment to underscore the importance of obeying God, thus rescuing the child from continuing in his foolishness until death.”5 This would naturally refer to spanking the child. Not slapping or punching or kicking. Not hitting them in the face, the head, the back, the legs, etc. It means an open handed spank, on the bottom, with force sufficient to teach and appropriate for the age and size of the child. Texas pastor Dan Phillips says, “God has thoughtfully provided parents with a ‘bull’s-eye’ that is a well-padded area which He kept free from sensitive internal organs.”6
The late theologian R.C. Sproul wrote, “Pain can be a great teacher indeed. As any parent of a toddler will tell you, there are lessons that very young children will not learn without a spanking...Properly administered physical discipline is an act of love, and as the Bible indicates, those who spare the rod are hating their children and not showing them love and affection (Prov. 13:24; 22:15; 23:13-14; Heb 12:7-11)”7
The operative phrase here is “properly applied.” As noted, this means an appropriate spanking, not leaving red marks, welts, broken bones, and worse. The responsible Christian parent is able to express their love for their child through both praise and encouragement and also appropriate meaningful discipline and punishment.
Shelley, on the other hand, when preaching this passage is screaming, yelling, pounding the pulpit with full force almost as if he is imagining himself wailing on a child, with spittle frothing at the corners of his mouth. It is a frightening scene to be sure. And his admonition to his congregation, “YA GOTTA SCOURGE ‘EM!!!” is not biblical at all. To scourge someone is to whip them with a small multi-thonged whip which has pieces of wood and glass embedded in the braided leather thongs. It is designed to inflict maximum pain and blood loss as it rips pieces of flesh and muscle from the victim (in Shelley’s case a child) being scourged.
Jesus was beaten and scourged to such a degree that He was no longer recognizable as a human being. Pastor Shelley would have no doubt been very familiar with that Bible passage (Matt. 20:19; 27:26; Mark 15:15; Luke 18:33; John 19:1, cf. Isa. 52:14), and thus he would know exactly what scourging entailed. That he would command – not suggest, but command – that any child be scourged is beyond reprehensible. Why he, or anyone, who commands that children be beaten severely with wooden rods and whipped with a scourge as necessary to keep them from hell; who in essence is commanding child abuse from the pulpit, is even allowed to have custodial rights over any child is beyond comprehension.
And, as if beating and scourging children isn’t bad enough, Shelley goes on to tell his congregation (and every viewer of the YouTube video of his sermon) that if the beating and scourging doesn’t knock the rebelliousness out their children, then kill them. He says that lazy, video game playing, rebellious children are to be put to death. Of course, he later adds a qualifier by saying they “should” be put to death by the government. This seems to the standard qualifier used by Anderson and his New IFB movement followers when calling for the deaths of whatever group of people they are railing about at any given time. They must be put to death, but the government should do it. The death penalty is mandatory, it’s required, but the government should do it.
And this is apparently the same method of child rearing employed in the Anderson household as well. Mrs. Anderson has written extensively about problems with modern child rearing methods. In one of her blog posts she points out the benefits of the “rod of correction” and looks back longingly at her own upbringing in East Germany with “old-school grandparents.” She writes, “Not like Germany is the bedrock of strict parenting these days or even was in my days, but being from East Germany and having had 'old-school' grandparents, I was raised in times and circumstances that were decades 'behind the times'. When we were newlyweds and young parents, I was often dumbfounded by permissive American parenting, where it is a virtue among many to let kids walk rough-shod over their parents and suffer it patiently.” She goes on to write, “Kids do not turn out right overnight, and they are not lost overnight. They continue for many years on the path of right, lit by God's word, or they continue down the way of transgressors, unchecked for many years. There are a thousand parenting decisions made over the course of many years that keep kids on one path, or the other.”8
Former Faith Word church member, and executive producer of Anderson’s New World Order Bible Versions “documentary,” Paul Berg, related in a YouTube video that when Anderson was told two of his sons had bullied another boy by drawing a picture of the boy with feces on his face and calling him “poop face,” Anderson responded by beating his two sons.9 Granted, bullying should never be tolerated, but drawing a picture of another boy and calling it “poop face” is not all that unusual for young elementary school children and hardly warrants much punishment at all, much less a beating.
While Mrs. Anderson is correct in her blog post that it is important to keep children on the proper path when they are growing up, it is almost certain that beating them as her husband allegedly does, or scourging them as Jonathan Shelley does, are not proper parenting methods. Why Child Protective Services allows beatings and scourgings (which they apparently do since both the Anderson’s and the Shelley’s still have their children in their homes) is beyond understanding.
As has been briefly noted elsewhere, Zsuzsanna Anderson, the wife of Steven Anderson, has made it a point to condone spousal abuse. At least implicitly. While she does say in one of her videos that she does not recommend a woman remain in a home where the she and her children are in physical danger. She says, “obviously, if you are in danger of life or limb get out of there. Protect yourself, protect the children.” She goes on to say, “But it is a very sad situation, it is a lose-lose situation, and unfortunately I have no advice for that. I don’t know what you should do, or what would be prudent to you, other than protect yourself from physical harm.”10 This is about the extent of Zsuzsanna Anderson’s advice for someone who is in “physical danger...danger of life or limb.” Just get out and protect yourself and your children. Sound advice. But this is the limit of her sound advice to women who are married to abusive men.
According to the United States Department of Justice, there are five types of abuse possible in the home.11 They are:
1. Physical Abuse, which consists of striking someone, shoving them, or otherwise intentionally causing some form of physical injury, regardless of how slight.
2. Sexual Abuse, which consists of rape, unwanted touching of sexual areas of the body, forcibly kissing, or any forced and unwanted encounter of a sexual nature.
3. Emotional Abuse, which consists of constant unwarranted criticism, repeated name calling, repeated mockery and belittlement, undermining the victim’s relationship with their children and/or family friends and/or relatives, intentional dismissing and diminishing of the victim’s abilities and accomplishments, and other forms of verbal abuse.
4. Economic Abuse, which consists of manipulating the victim in such a manner as to make them completely financially dependent upon the abuser, by asserting complete and total control over all finances and all financial decisions, requiring the victim to request and account for any money needed for household or personal supplies, and similar behaviors involving finances.
5. Psychological Abuse, which consists of threats of harm to the victim and/or the victim’s children and or the victim’s family members and friends, destroying the victim’s property, killing or otherwise removing the victim’s pet(s) from the victim, intimidation, forced isolation from family and/or friends and/or school or work associates, or any other fear inducing behavior.
In her video, Mothering Moment - What to do if you're married to a jerk, Mrs. Anderson addresses all of these forms of abuse, though not in the manner you might expect from the wife of someone who is ostensibly a Christian pastor. As we have seen, she does advise those who are in physical danger of life and limb to remove themselves and their children from the abuser. And again, this is sound advice. But it is the end of her sound advice, because when she addresses the other forms of abuse, she suddenly switches gears and rather than blame the abuser for their intentionally abusive behavior, she blames the victim, the person receiving the abuse.
In her video, Mrs. Anderson says, “The short answer of what to do if you’re married to a jerk, take a long hard look in the mirror, because chances are you are the problem. … Chances are, if you are married to a jerk, the problem is you.”
If that isn’t enough of a slap in the face to the victims of spousal abuse, Mrs. Anderson goes on to say, “If you are married to a jerk, look in the mirror, because no good wife thinks, ‘I’m married to a jerk.’ Only a haughty, prideful, arrogant person who has the wrong feelings in their heart, and who does not know how to be a godly Christian would even think that. What if a child said, ‘Well, what do you do if your parent is a jerk?’ You would think, well it sounds like you have the wrong attitude toward your parents. ’Cause she [the victim] could have phrased it any which way, you know, she could have said, ‘I’m struggling in my marriage, my husband is withdrawn from me,’ but no, she decided to phrase it the way she did. If your husband is withdrawn from you it might be because you’re driving him to the corner of the housetop.”
Her video is based primarily on a woman who wrote to her asking for help. A woman who was married to an abusive man. A man whom she referred to as a jerk. The woman tells Mrs. Anderson that she and others have been trying to get her husband into counseling, and although he is now going, he does not cooperate with the counseling. This is typical behavior for an abuser once their abuse is made public. In order to “save face” and attempt to make their victim appear as if they are “making it all up,” they will go to counseling, but it only for appearances as they do not cooperate with what the counselor asks of them.
Mrs. Anderson responds by not only telling this woman that she is to blame for her husbands abusive behavior, but that she does not have to be a victim. That she is one by choice. Mrs. Anderson says all the woman has to do, all any woman has to do when they are involved in an abusive relationship that isn’t physically abusive, is understand that they have the power to influence their husbands by simply submitting. Submit to the abuser and just do what he says. Mrs. Anderson says that when a husband is abusive (again abusive though not physically so), it is usually the wife’s fault because she is not being the kind of wife her husband wants, and is therefore in rebellion against his authority, and her answer is to submit to the abuser.12 To boil down her advice to victims of emotional abuse, psychological abuse, sexual abuse, and economic abuse to a single line, it would be, “just suck it up buttercup because it’s all your fault anyway.” Lovely.
Many of those viewing Mrs. Anderson’s video are apparently so enamored with Mrs. Anderson, or her husband, or both, and apparently believe they can do no wrong, and can say no wrong. They speak glowingly of Mrs. Anderson’s advice to submit to an abusive bully spouse. One woman commented on this video, “That's something that has changed my way of seeing life and problems: i try to be the culprit (guilty party) because, then, the solution is on my hands! How liberating it is and how powerful makes you feel!!” Another person wrote, “Beautiful advice! Thank you so much for this. It was truly inspiring to me.”13 One has to wonder what flavor the Anderson Kool-Aid is that they drank.
While her video was live streamed to YouTube in July 2019, it is really nothing more than the video version of a blog post she wrote in January 2011, similarly titled, “So You’re Married To A Jerk.” In this blog article, Mrs. Anderson writes, “Chances are that the ‘victim’ in this situation made their own bed. … my personal observation has been that those who complain about their spouses...or think all the time what a jerk he is, maybe are not a pleasant person to be around themselves. Maybe it’s them who is the problem? Just hypothetically, let’s assume that a sweet, godly lady marries a nice godly guy. After they are married, completely out of the blue, he changes personalities and turns out to be a complete jerk. What should she do? Does she have any ‘recourse’?...The only biblical recourse for a horrible marriage, or any marriage for that matter, is death. If your husband is an abusive, mean, hateful, fill-in-the-blank jerk in spite of you doing your best as a wife, God can kill him whenever He wants to. If he is still alive, God must still want you to be married to him. ...If nothing else, it will be a great lesson for the kids, who hopefully will grow up and make wiser and more careful choices regarding their future spouse...”14
If this isn’t an approval, and even encouragement, of spousal abuse and violence in the home, then nothing is.
Another example of violence and hatred in the home can be seen in a video produced by Jonathan Guzman, who apparently attends Stedfast Baptist Church in Fort Worth, Texas. Although the church is pastored by Steven Anderson protégé Jonathan Shelley who presents sermon after sermon filled with hatred and violence, the fact that Jonathan Guzman’s sermon was allowed and even approved of (as demonstrated by the number of hearty “amen!” and “preach it!” comments from the congregation), is evidence that the hatred and violence inherent within the New IFB is not confined to Steven Anderson’s church or his home.
Jonathan Guzman is a child. While his actual age is unknown, based on his September 2018 sermon video, he appears to be between the ages of 10 and 13. Just a child. In his sermon, young Guzman screams and rants and pounds the pulpit like any other New IFB preacher, so that is almost expected. But what he says in his eight minute “sermon” is very disturbing. He literally screams that “all scientists are sodomites” and “reprobates.”15
As noted in this work, it is a common, and almost core doctrine of the New IFB, that all homosexuals (whom they almost exclusively refer to as sodomites) are reprobate – meaning they are beyond any hope of salvation; and, that all homosexuals are to be put to death. They deserve death, they should be put to death, and the world would be a better and safer place as soon as they all die. This is standard New IFB rhetoric.
But apply that rhetoric to Jonathan Guzman’s “sermon,” which it almost certainly does apply given the New IFB influence on Guzman, and you begin to see the disturbing message that this young child is screaming from the pulpit: “All scientists are beyond the hope of salvation, and should be put to death.” This is a call, from a child, to return to the dark ages; and, it completely ignores the scientific contributions made by Christians, and the scientific aspects of Scripture itself.
That Jonathan Guzman even developed this mentality cannot be attributed solely to his attendance in a New IFB church, or even his exposure to Steven Anderson and Jonathan Shelley. It must either come from his home, or at the very least is encouraged by his parents who have allowed him to both preach this “sermon” and post it to YouTube.
Welcome to the next generation of hate and violence.
Another of Steven Anderson’s protégés, the newly ordained pastor Bruce Mejia has tried his best to excuse all the violent hatred in the New IFB, by placing the blame on God. He teaches that all of the violent hatred in the New IFB is justified because, as he puts it, God hates. So if God hates, then so can they. In his video, “Hell is Proof that God Hates” (which is a clip from his sermon “Waging War Against the Sodomites” – a typical New IFB rant), Mejia says,
“Now look. When is a time, when is it a time to love? At our church it’s Sunday afternoon. It’s on Thursdays, it’s on Saturdays. What is that? Preaching the gospel. Spend a good amount of hours out there, you know, talking about the love of God. Look, the Bible tells us, ‘Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee, and-that-I-gree* with those that rise up against thee, I hate them with perfect hatred. I count them mine enemies.’ Now don’t miss this. The Bible tells us here that David – this is a very bold statement – he hates them with perfect hatred. What does perfect mean in the Bible? It means complete.
“Now look. I’ve known preachers of times past, they hated some things. But their hatred was incomplete. You know why? Because we’re supposed to hate sin, amen? Supposed to hate sin. We’re supposed to hate what sin does to people. But you know what? A perfect hatred also includes hating those who hate the Lord. [several in the crowd say, “that’s right!”] And what David’s basically saying here is, he has a complete mature hatred! He hates sin. He hates evil. He hates those who hate the Lord. ‘[you say] I don’t believe God hates.’ Have you heard of hell? [most of the crowd says yeah, yeah, and chuckle] You think it’s like just all roses and daisies, it’s just, the heater’s turned on [crowd laughs]. It’s hell [more laughing and people saying “yeah”].
“We need to recognize and stop, you know, having this weird perception that God is only love but He’s no hate. Hey, God is love and heaven is the expression of that. Everlasting life is the expression of that. Jesus Christ coming to die for us is the expression of that. But you know what? God also hates! Hell’s the proof! [crowd raises its voice with “Yeah” and “That’s right!”] God also hates! Damnation is proof! [Crowd gives its agreement] The Bible says in Psalm 97, verse 10, ‘Ye that love the Lord hate evil. He preserveth the souls of th..the saints, He delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.’ Romans 12:9 says ‘let love be without dissimulation! Abhor that which is evil, cleave to that which is good.’ You know what this is telling us? That a hypocritical love is a love that claims that it don’t, that they don’t hate. That’s what that’s saying.
“You know, I forgot what preacher said, he’s like, ‘Oh, you can’t say that you love everyone, if you love everyone, if you said you love everyone, you love nobody [crowd shares its agreement with, yeah, yeah, that’s right] and that’s fact [crowd: that’s right]. Because in order to love someone, there has to be an equal amount of hatred for those who would even desire to harm them.”16
[*One would think a preacher, a so-called “evangelist” (and recently ordained pastor) such as Bruce Mejia, would not slur his words when reciting God’s word. He should have said, “and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?” instead of “and-that-I-gree* with those that rise up against thee.”]
But are we to hate others with “a perfect hatred,” a “mature hatred,” as Bruce Mejia claims? Perhaps the best person to answer this question is our Lord Jesus Christ, who said, “Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.” (Matthew 5:43-45)
This was not a new teaching that Jesus was introducing here in His Sermon on the Mount, but rather a reiteration of God’s law as found in Leviticus 19:18: “Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the Lord.”
“Thou shalt”. Not a suggestion, but rather a command. “Love thy neighbour” which means not just the person living next door, but fellow citizens, other people.
And Jesus again reiterated this when He gave what the Bible calls the two greatest commandments:
“Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.” (Matthew 22:36-40)
Again, “Thou shalt” demonstrates that this is not simply a suggestion, but rather it is a commandment. “Love thy neighbour.” The word here is, plēsion, which means any other person. It is the same word used in the Apostle Paul’s exposition of Jesus’ teaching in Matthew 22:36-40. Paul writes, “Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.” (Romans 13:8-10)
Again, the word used here is plésion (πλησίον), and refers not simply to someone living in the house next door, but as Thayer’s Greek Lexicon points out, “any other person, … thy fellow-man, thy neighbor, … according to the teaching of Christ, any other man irrespective of race or religion with whom we live or whom we chance to meet (which idea is clearly brought out in the parable Luke 10:25-37).”17
As with many passages of Scripture, the New IFB gets biblical hate all wrong. They simply don’t understand it; or, don’t want to understand it. They prefer their own understanding, their own definition of biblical hate because they can apply it to their favorite past time which seems to be hating others. Unfortunately, they are using the Bible, or at least their faulty understanding of the Bible, to justify their sinful hatred. And sin is exactly what it is, for it is in direct contradiction to God’s repeated command to love their fellow human beings.
Biblical hatred is not an expression of emotion such as with the New IFB, but rather it is to count someone as an enemy and show them disfavor. This is not to say you don’t help them if they need help, nor is it to say you should not love them. You simply do not love them as you love someone close to you such as a family member or a friend or a brother or sister in the Lord. You favor them with fellowship, but you do not show that kind of favor with an enemy, and that is what biblical hatred is. And this is what Psalm 139:21-22 teaches:
“Do I not hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? And am I not grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with a perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.”
Hating with a perfect hatred does not mean hating with a complete hatred as Bruce Mejia teaches; it means hating with the same kind of hatred that God has (“Do I not hate them, O LORD, that hate thee?). And how does God “hate” them that hate Him? He counts them as His enemies, and that is what the Psalmist clearly states. Those that hate God are those who are at enmity with Him, and those that hate God are also at enmity with God’s children. This is what the Psalmist is saying in Psalm 139:21-22. Those who treat God as an enemy will soon learn that God will treat them as an enemy as well.
It is disfavor that God exhibits when Scripture teaches that God “hates” someone. It means He is at odds with them, they are His enemy, and He does not show them any favor. “Jacob have I loved, but Esau I have hated” (Romans 9:13). This does not mean that God harbored some emotional dislike for Esau, but rather that Esau was His enemy. Just as Esau still received general blessings such as good weather, good crops, etc.; those whom God counts as an enemy, those He disfavors, God does not favor them with fellowship and the love He has for His children. God does not rant and rail against homosexuals, and Mormons, and Calvinists, and Jeff Durbin, and James White, and Adam Fannin, and scientists calling them all reprobate that He hopes they all get brain cancer and die slow horrible deaths.
Yet that is what Steven Anderson and his New IFB do, and they try to justify their hatred by saying God hates they way they do, that they are simply reflecting God’s hatred, that they are hating the way God hates. No. No they are not. They are hating more the way Satan hates, than the way God hates, as Scripture clearly teaches. They are in sin with their hatred. Grossly immoral sin. They are living in open rebellion against God, in direct disobedience to God. They are hating the way the world hates. They are being just exactly like the world in this regard, and Scripture speaks about that as well. James 4:4 states, “Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.” And the New IFB, by acting like the world, is living in enmity with God, and is, therefore, an enemy of God.
Now let’s review that CABQ (Christian Attitude & Behavior Quotient) which we examined at the beginning of this section, and determine just were Steven Anderson and his New IFB rate. Remember this is based on Romans 12:14-21, which states,
“14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not. 15 Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep. 16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits. 17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. 18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. 20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. 21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.”
Does Steven Anderson, or anyone else in the New IFB exhibit these God-commanded attitudes and behaviors? Romans 12:14-21 can be broken down into thirteen questions we can call the “Christian Attitude and Behavior Quotient” test. Of course, this particular test is based only on this particular passage. If we were to employ all of Scripture the test would be significantly longer, and likely biased against Anderson and his New IFB. Therefore, we will stick with this “abbreviated” version. A quotient is a degree or amount of a specified quality or characteristic. So the higher the score on this “CABQ” test, the more Christian, or Christlike, the subject is.
1. Do they bless those who persecute them?
2. Do they refrain from cursing those who persecute them?
3. Do they rejoice with those who rejoice and weep with those who weep?
4. Are they impartial and of the same mind toward one another?
5. Do they avoid self-seeking, prideful attitudes?
6. Do they associate with the humble?
7. Are they wise in their own conceits, thinking themselves better or more spiritual or more righteous than others who profess Christ?
8. Are they vindictive and vengeful, repaying evil with evil?
9. Are they honest and respectful, providing these things to ALL men?
10. Do they live peaceably with ALL men?
11. Are they content to trust the Lord to avenge any and all wrongdoing done to them?
12. Do they care for the physical and spiritual needs of their enemies?
13. Do they overcome evil with good?
To score this Christian Attitude and Behavior Quotient, or CABQ test, each correct answer is awarded one point, and each incorrect answer is awarded one negative point. Therefore, the best possible score is 13 (indicating the most Christlike based on this passage), and the worst possible score is 13 (indicating the least Christlike based on this passage). For example, if you are able to answer twelve questions correctly, you would have a score of 12; but by answering one question incorrectly, you would deduct one point, leaving you with a score of 11. If you answer ten questions correctly you would have a score of 10; but, answering the remaining three questions incorrectly means you deduct three points, leaving you with a score of 7. Christians should be able to answer yes to all of these questions except for numbers 7 and 8, which should be answered no. Granted, no one is perfect, and each Christian will be at a different level of maturity. Therefore, having even a low CABQ of 1 or 2 might indicate a relatively low level of Christian maturity, while a CABQ of 12 or 13 might indicate a very high level of Christian maturity. It is clear, that based on Romans 12:14-21, Steven Anderson and his New IFB would score at about -13. The worst possible score. This is not a personal determination alone, but a comparison of the teachings and behaviors of Anderson and the New IFB.
Other passages which can be used to compare Steven Anderson and his New IFB to Scripture, which also reveal just how far removed the New IFB actually is from God and the Bible, are: Proverbs 25:21; Philippians 2:14-15; Ephesians 4:29; Galatians 5:16-21; Galatians 5:22-23; 1 John 3:7-10; 1 John 4:21; Luke 10:25-37; Luke 6:28; Romans 8:7-8; Proverbs 17:5; Psalms 1:1; 1 Corinthians 5:11,13; 1 Peter 3:8-12; Romans 1:28-32; Romans 14:1.





Part 3h Sources:


1. Christian Men Should Love to Fight
Elliott Ray
Published on Jul 18, 2016
A clip from the sermon, "What a Time to be Alive", preached by brother Richard Miller at Faithful Word Baptist Church on the night of 07-17-16.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hl3Da6n-a4
Accessed 29 September 2019


2. Richard Miller Pastor Ordination (Faithful Word Baptist Church)
Wendy Davis
Published on Oct 16, 2016
Sunday Night October the 16th of 2016 Richard Miller is officially ordained as a pastor and will be pastoring in Nashville Tennessee and his First Service will be a week from today. We wish you the best and will keep you in our prayers and most definitely plan on a visit. God Bless you Brother.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76XT0GT32v4
Accessed 29 September 2019


3. We Need More Soul-winning Churches
By Steven Anderson, Wednesday, November 9, 2016
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2016/11/we-need-more-soul-winning-churches.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20190930022959/http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2016/11/we-need-more-soul-winning-churches.html
Accessed 29 September 2019


In April 2017, Anderson wrote a blog article for his online blog titled, Don't Quit the Ministry [by Steven Anderson, Friday, April 21, 2017, http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2017/04/dont-quit-ministry.html, accessed 29 September 2019, archived at: https://web.archive.org/web/20190930023110/http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2017/04/dont-quit-ministry.html] which he clearly aimed at Richard Miller. In the article Anderson wrote, “A lot of guys go out and start a church and then quit, and it’s a tragedy because we need more churches. If you are a young man who wants to become a pastor or missionary, you need to decide right now that you are going to finish what you start. When I started Faithful Word Baptist Church, it was hard. I had to knock a lot of doors to get visitors, and most of them didn’t stick.” In an ironic twist, an anonymous commentor wrote, “It was sad to see what happened with Soulwinning Baptist Nashville. ...Richard Miller preached some excellent sermons even back at FWBC.... The problem that I saw throughout all his sermons, which I now believe to be a pointer to what happened in Nashville, is that he never did lift up his voice like a trumpet. He stuck out like a clarinet between Pastor Romero's piercing bugle and Pastor Manly's booming tuba. I'm not knocking Richard as a Christian, but I just think his voice style pointed to his ability (perhaps not his willingness) to stand up and fight the good fight. I have more confidence in Brother Tyler's chances of success in Jacksonville because he does cry out loud indeed.” As we have seen in this series, both Tyler Baker and Donnie Romero failed in their ministries. And, like Richard Miller, both were hand picked and ordained and sent out by Steven Anderson.


4. Honour They Father and Thy Mother
Stedfast Baptist Church
Published January 20, 2019
https://youtu.be/5KWOXWg7UYo
Accessed 29 September 2019


Parents Are Commanded By God to Spank Their Children
Stedfast Baptist Church [Jonathan Shelley]
Published on Jan 21, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3vBKX-8vao
Accessed 29 September 2019


Rebellious Teenagers Are Worthy of Death
Stedfast Baptist Church
Published on Jan 21, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIns-wVlrw4
Accessed 29 September 2019


5. Shepherding a Child's Heart Paperback, by Tedd Tripp (Author), Published by Shepherd Press (1995)


6. God's Wisdom in Proverbs by Dan Phillips Published by Kress Biblical Resources (September 15, 2011)


7. “Discipline’s Cleansing Rod” by R.C. Sproul, First published in Tabletalk Magazine, an outreach of Ligonier. For permissions, view our Copyright Policy. https://www.ligonier.org/learn/devotionals/disciplines-cleansing-rod/


8. Radical Unschooling
By Zsuzsanna Anderson, Tuesday, December 19, 2017
http://stevenandersonfamily.blogspot.com/2017/12/radical-unschooling.html
Accessed 29 September 2019


9. ARE THEY ALL YOUR BULLIES Pastor Steven Anderson Raising Bullies
Tylah Baker
Published on Jun 13, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnu70-FWeHU&feature=youtu.be
Accessed 29 September 2019


10. Video: Mothering Moment - What to do if you're married to a jerk, by Zsuzsanna Anderson, Streamed live on Jul 19, 2019, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5BEgyE3uug, accessed 29 September 2019


11. Article: 5 types of abuse, Domestic Violence FAQ, Published April 9, 2015, Updated April 16, 2015, https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/features/domestic-violence/2015/04/09/5-types-of-abuse-domestic-violence-faq/25520519/, contains information from the National Domestic Violence Hotline, the National Center for Victims of Crime, and WomensLaw.org. Accessed 29 September 2019


12. Video: Mothering Moment - What to do if you're married to a jerk, by Zsuzsanna Anderson, Streamed live on Jul 19, 2019, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5BEgyE3uug, accessed 29 September 2019


13. Ibid comments section


14. Article: So you're married to a jerk…, by Zsuzusanna Anderson, January 18, 2011, https://stevenandersonfamily.blogspot.com/2011/01/so-youre-married-to-jerk.html, accessed 29 September 2019


15. Science Falsely so Called Bro Jonathan Jr
Stedfast Baptist Church
Sep 12, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnzSqmVUywY
Accessed 29 September 2019


"Science Falsely So Called" 10 min Sermon by Jonathan Guzman
Guzman 1611
Oct 26, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQlE2t_IIjU
Accessed 29 September 2019


To his credit, at least somewhat, young Guzman makes an attempt to soften his stance by stating in the video description, “I miss spoke [sic] when I said, ‘All these scientists are sodomites.’ But of course most are, but there are plenty of Bible believing scientists.”


16. Hell is proof God hates
sanderson1611
Published on Jun 19, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NREhKg0VlhY
Accessed 29 September 2019
This is an excerpt from “Waging War Against The Sodomites”
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on Jun 19, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kma7wIP81ZI
Accessed 29 September 2019


17. Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament by Joseph Henry Thayer, American Book Company, 1889, pp 518-519

With all of this vitriolic hatred, one wonders if it is contained and confined to internet ranting and railing. The answer is no. This much hatred will naturally flow into other areas of the New IFBer’s life, as is evidenced by some of the sermons preached from the pulpit in New IFB churches, as well as the actions of some New IFBer’s.
On August 16, 2009, Steven Anderson preached a sermon titled, “Why I Hate Barack Obama,”1 during which he stated, “Barack Obama’s coming to town tomorrow morning. … And I’m gonna tell you something, I hate Barack Obama. You say, ‘you mean you just don’t like what he stands for.’ No! I hate the person! You say, “oh you just don’t like his policies.’ No! I hate him! Now, I’m gonna prove from the Bible tonight why I should hate Barack Obama, why God wants me to hate Barack Obama! Why God hates Barack Obama!” Anderson then attempts to justify his words by twisting Psalm 58 and other passages. He claims that because Obama approves of abortion, which sometimes uses a saline solution which Anderson claims causes an unborn baby to melt just as salt makes a snail melt, Obama is a reprobate beyond salvation and worthy of death and eternal damnation. I guess he expects people to ignore that salt does not melt babies and snails. It kills them yes, but it does not melt them. Perhaps he is employing some dramatic license. Of course, that would mean he is intentionally distorting the text of Scripture, but we’ll overlook that for the moment lest we find ourselves running down that rabbit trail.
Anderson continues, “Let me tell you something. I don’t love Barack Obama. I don’t respect Barack Obama. I don’t obey Barack Obama, and I’d like to see Barack Obama melt like a snail tonight. Because he needs to recompense. He needs to reap what he’s sown. Any Christian will tell you that someone who commits murder should get the death penalty. Because that’s what it says in Genesis chapter nine, that’s what it says in the Mosaic Law, that’s what it teaches throughout the Bible. ‘Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God created he man.’
Of course, this isn’t word for word from Genesis 9:6, as Anderson added the word “created,” but again, let’s set his distortion of the text aside for a moment. He goes on, “And when Barack Obama is gonna push his partial birth abortion, his salty saline solution abortion, hey, he deserves to be punished for what he’s done, and I’m not gonna pray for God to bless Barack Obama, this is my prayer tonight for Barack Obama. You see, your prayer is never more right than when you pray God’s word. I don’t know if you know this, but many times I like to pray God’s word. … If somebody is gonna twist my arm behind my back and tell me pray for Barack Obama, this is what I’m gonna pray, because this is the only prayer that applies to him: ‘break his teeth O God, in his mouth! You know, as a snail which melteth, let him pass away like the untimely birth of a woman, that he thinks, he calls it a woman’s right to choose, you know, he thinks it’s so wonderful, he oughta be aborted! It oughta be Abort Obama! It oughta be the motto.”
Okay, let’s stop for just a moment to point out the obvious. Did Barack Obama kill someone? Or did he make it legal to kill someone? There is an important distinction here. Yes, what Obama did was certainly evil, and he will likely face punishment at the great white throne judgment for what he has done. But let’s not use that fact as justification for distorting other facts. If Anderson is going to hold people guilty for the sinful and criminal actions of others simply because they provided the possibility for them to engage in those sinful and criminal actions; then he is also going to have hold every Walmart that sells sharp knives accountable for the actions of those who stab people to death. He is going to have to hold every sporting goods store that sells firearms accountable for the actions of those who shoot people. Do you see the logic (or lack of logic) in Anderson’s thinking?
Anderson continues, “Look, people who are bloody and violent are evil people. I mean, do you love Adolph Hitler? Do you love Joseph Stalin? Do you love Mao Tse Tung? Do you love these evil sadistic butchers of history? No! If you were to meet Jeffrey Dahmer in real life, if you were to meet John Wayne Gacy, or if Adolph Hitler could come back from the dead and be in church, I’m sure you’d go and shake his hand and tell him it’s good to have you. No! The Bible said in Hosea 9:14, ‘Throw them out of the congregation of the Lord, I will love them no more!’2 Violent, bloody, wicked people, He’s sayin’ get them away from me!” … “Barack Obama is one of the rulers of the darkness of this world.” … “He’s a Pentecostal Charimatic. Didn’t you see his pastor wearing a dress? Woooooooo!” … “and yet you’re gonna tell me that I’m supposed to pray for the socialist devil, murderer, infanticide, who wants to see young children, and he wants to see babies killed through abortion and partial birth and all these other things, and you’re gonna tell me I supposed to pray that God would give him a good lunch tomorrow while he’s in Phoenix, Arizona. Nope. I’m not gonna pray for his good. I’m gonna pray that he dies and goes to hell. When I go to bed tonight, that’s how I’m gonna pray. And you say, ‘are you just sayin’ that?’ No. When I go to bed tonight Steven L. Anderson is gonna pray for Barack Obama to die and go to hell.”
Okay, we have to stop once again and look at what Anderson has said here. First, his comparing Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, who actually ordered the deaths of millions of people, to Barack Obama who made it possible for those who want to kill babies to be able to do so legally. Then he compares Obama to Dahmer and Gacy who actually did the killing themselves. Again, did Barack Obama actually plunge a knife into someone, or inject a baby with saline? Did he actually kill someone? No, of course not. Nor did he order anyone to kill babies or anyone else.
Then Anderson quotes Hosea 9:14. Or at least he claims he is quoting Hosea 9:14. Only he isn’t. Just as he twists the Scriptures noted above, he really misquotes this passage. He quotes Hosea 9:14 as, “Throw them out of the congregation of the Lord, I will love them no more!” Which sounds good, and sounds like it supports what he is saying. But the passage actually states, “Give them, O Lord: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts.” Not even close, is it?
What he is trying to quote, but still doesn’t get right, is Hosea 9:15, which states, “All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.” This passage is speaking about the Assyrian conquer of Israel, which was brought about by God because of Israel’s gross immorality and idolatry. This isn’t even remotely supportive of what Anderson is teaching. What’s more, Israel was brought back. So, if Anderson is comparing Obama to Israel, he must then believe that God caused Obama to do this as punishment for Obama’s immorality and idolatry, and that Obama can be brought back as well. But that conflicts with Anderson’s earlier statement that Obama was a reprobate beyond salvation! There is nothing in this passage of Scripture, or any passage of Scripture, that supports Anderson railing against Barack Obama.
Anderson then goes on in his sermon, ranting and railing about how unjust war is, and how wrong it is to pay taxes, and reciting Declaration of Independence at the top of his lungs. He goes from preaching what is supposed to be the Bible (but obviously isn’t), to releasing his inner “True Born Sons of Liberty” persona (an anti-government “Tea Party”/Militia/Sovereign Citizen/“Patriot” style organization founded by Steven Anderson in the early 2000’s). Anderson begins screaming, “We are not revolutionaries, we’re not trying to overthrow the government. We are counter-revolutionaries, because the revolution is what’s going on right there in Phoenix at 8am tomorrow where Obama is overturning the Constitution. Overturning the Declaration of Independence. Overturning everything we believe as a country. Overturning two hundred and some years of history. He is the revolutionary, and it’s a socialist, communist revolution. We are the counter-revolutionary's saying, NO! We don’t want change! We want to go back to the way it was started! A country under God! A free country! A country of liberty and justice for all! Anybody, everyone, whatever their race, whatever their citizenship, HEY! They’re BORN with liberty! Created with liberty! The government doesn’t give us our liberty, the government is only supposed to protect our liberty. Our liberty comes from God.”
Anderson goes on, “So I hope tonight you understand why I hate Barack Obama. Don’t tell me to love him, don’t tell me how I’m to love him, I’m a loving guy. … And you know what, God does not love the pedophile, and the rapist, and the bloody and deceitful worker of iniquity. He said He hates ’em. And I believe the Bible, that He hates them. I believe God looks down and says, ‘Man, I hate that guy.’ You say, ‘Well, why is he in office?’ Because you know what? God allows this world to run its course. I mean, He’s not up there..if He were it’d be a much better place. One day He will. It’s called the millennium, when Jesus will rule this world. ‘Oh Jesus’ up on His throne, everything’s okay.’ When His throne is on this earth, everything will be okay. A thousand years of peace. No blood will be shed during that thousand years. It’s going to be a peaceful time on this earth. Even the lion will lay down with the lamb. Even the animal kingdom will not destroy one another. It’s gonna be a wonderful time. But today there is spiritual wickedness in high places. Now, I’m preaching against Barack Obama, it’s not all him. But he is just the tip of the sword, okay? He is the figurehead of spiritual wickedness in high places. And he’s comin’ to Arizona tomorrow. Don’t go there and scream and cheer for him. I know people are planning on it. Don’t go there and get a tear in the eye. No, go to the prayer closet and get a tear in the eye for our country. And if I go there, which I’m not ’cause I’m busy tomorrow, but if I went there I’d be there to say ‘Down with Obama!” okay? You know, I’d be down there protesting Obama and all. But I’m not really a protest kind of guy. I’m a preacher. And so I’m preaching to you what the Bible teaches tonight. Take it and let it sink down into your ears.”3
In less than 24-hours it became very clear that at least one person in his congregation let that sink down into his ears. Chris Broughton, one of Anderson’s followers and a member of his church, arrived at Obama’s appearance with a fully loaded AR-15 slung over his shoulder and a loaded semi-automatic handgun prominently displayed on his hip. Prior to this, another so-called “Patriot”, William Kostric, showed up at a similar Obama health care rally in New Hampshire. What’s the connection you may ask? Both Kostric and Broughton are members of the Arizona chapter of “We the People,” an anti-government “Tea Party”/Militia/Sovereign Citizen/“Patriot” style organization similar to Anderson’s “True Born Sons of Liberty” (Kostric had moved to New Hampshire by the time Broughton attended the Arizona rally).4
In July 2009, just one month prior to his “I Hate Barack Obama” rant sermon, Anderson was at a “Tea Party” rally in Gilbert, Arizona where he spoke to hundreds of Chris Broughton’s and William Kostric’s, telling them about how he has spilled his blood for the liberty of America (neglecting to mention that he brought it upon himself by both breaking the law and violating Scripture in the process), and that the government, specifically Barack Obama, was the enemy and must be stood up to.5
Anderson also has a connection to the Arizona chapter of the We the People organization, the same organization Chris Broughton has admitted belonging to, and which William Kostric is known to have belonged to. In April 2009, just months before Anderson’s infamous Obama sermon and his attendance at a “Tea Party” rally, he was involved (at his instigation) in an incident involving the Border Patrol and Arizona DPS officers. Prior to this incident, Anderson had a long history of intentionally baiting Border Patrol and law enforcement officers and hindering from doing their job at legal check points. He would purposely attract the attention of these officers when arriving at a check point, knowing full well they would react by pulling him over to check his driver’s license, and so forth. Anderson admits he had been doing this for months prior to the incident where he was tazed, and he also has numerous videos posted to his YouTube channel documenting this long term pattern of doing this.6
When pulled over, however, Anderson would begin to refuse to comply with their requests, ostensibly standing up for his Constitutional rights. In other words, he made an issue out of a non-issue. This is typical behavior for those involved in the “Tea Party”/Militia/Sovereign Citizen/“Patriot” type movements. Create a situation, become involved in the situation, push law enforcement to react, and then when they do react, scream as loud as possible that they are being victimized by bully boy police. And this is exactly what Steven Anderson did in April 2009. After repeatedly baiting the Border Patrol and other Law Enforcement officers, hoping they would react, in April 2009 they finally did, and almost immediately out came the victim card; and also almost immediately, Anderson began making the rounds among various “Patriot” groups, telling the story of how he has shed his blood standing up for the United States Constitution, and encouraging others to do the same.7
After his arrest and being charged, Anderson engaged the services of Marc J. Victor, and attorney who specializes in these types of cases, and who is also connected to the We the People group that Chris Broughton is connected to. Victor is connected through a man by the name of Ernest Hancock, the founder of the Freedom’s Phoenix organization.114 Previously, Victor had helped a young man by the name of Jason Shelton, who uses the pseudonym Shelton Obadiah and goes by “4409” on YouTube. Anderson at one time had many of Obadiah’s videos in his favorite video list, all of them revolving around one subject – you guessed it, how to incite the police during stops and at check points.115 Anderson has since made those videos either private or removed them altogether from his YouTube channel.
It was Ernest Hancock who proudly exclaimed in a broadcast interview with Anderson that he would be ensuring Anderson received the best legal representation during his impending court case. That legal representation was Marc Victor.116 Hancock himself is affiliated with the We the People organization8, the same “counter-revolutionary” organization Anderson’s congregant, Chris Broughton, and also William Kostric are affiliated with. So for Broughton to say Anderson had no influence on him when he decided to openly bear loaded semi-automatic firearms to a Barack Obama rally is far-fetched to say the least.
Anderson was clear when he stated that “God hates Barack Obama” and that he hates Barack Obama, and that Obama hates God. Something one of his congregants parroted when he said, “I hate people that hate God.” Broughton, however, claims Anderson’s hate message was the motivation for his attending the Obama rally armed to the teeth.
Broughton told a reporter with the Arizona Republic, “I want attention brought to the ideas that I espouse. … I don't think the political process works anymore. It is done. . . . This government is the most corrupt Mafioso on the face of the Earth. … It's as simple as this. The people who support government, the ones who like government, they are using government like a weapon. The government continues to take over more and more things.” Broughton went on, however, to tell the Associated Press that he “absolutely” agreed with Anderson’s anti-Obama sentiments, and that he wanted Obama to die.9 Scary stuff, even ten years after the incident. Primarily because Steven Anderson and his New IFB is still preaching hate.
Christopher Broughton’s armed to the teeth mentality is not limited to presidential rallies by the way. It has been reported that he sometimes brings his AR-15 with him to worship at Anderson’s Faithful Word Baptist Church. While the average person might think this is unusual, for Anderson’s church it is standard operating procedure. You see, Anderson encourages it. In fact, in December 2014, he preached from the pulpit that “every Christian should own a weapon” and in November 2017 he explained in a YouTube video (taken from one of his many violence advocating sermons, that he not only allows, but encourages his congregants to be armed with a firearm when in attendance at his church, treating both the open and concealed carrying of firearms almost as if they were sacraments in his church.10


Part 3g Sources:


1. Why I Hate Barack Obama
Steven Anderson
August 16, 2009, Sunday PM service
Note: the video has been removed from YouTube. The mp3 is, as of this date, still available on the Faithful Word website, and has been downloaded from there.
http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/081609p.mp3
Accessed 23 September 2019


2. Ibid


3. Ibid


4. Steven Anderson Flips Out, Admits Business and Church Share an Address, Says He's Been Contacted by U.S. Secret Service (w/Update)
Stephen Lemons | September 6, 2009
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/steven-anderson-flips-out-admits-business-and-church-share-an-address-says-hes-been-contacted-by-us-secret-service-w-update-6498941
Accessed 23 September 2019


'I Hate Obama' Pastor Draws Protesters Outside Church
By Jennifer Riley, Christian Post Reporter | Tuesday, September 08, 2009
https://www.christianpost.com/news/i-hate-obama-pastor-draws-protestors-outside-church-40764/
Accessed 23 September 2019


Christopher Broughton's Pastor Steven Anderson Prays for President Barack Obama's Death
Stephen Lemons | August 26, 2009
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/christopher-broughtons-pastor-steven-anderson-prays-for-president-barack-obamas-death-6500993
Accessed 23 September 2019


Protesters Rally Against Pastor's 'Why I Hate Obama' Sermon
By Susan Donaldson James | Sept. 7, 2009
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/arizona-protesters-rally-obama-hating-pastor/story?id=8510835
Accessed 23 September 2019


AR-15 Chris Broughton on the Alex Jones show - August 20th 2009
MP3 of live radio show with Alex Jones
08-20-2009
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/055947-2009-08-20-ar15-chris-b-on-the-alex-jones-show-august-20th.htm
Accessed 23 September 2019


Update on protestor with assault rifle at Obama event in Phoenix
Posted by AzBlueMeanie, August 22, 2009
https://arizona.typepad.com/blog/2009/08/update-on-guns-at-obama-event-in-phoenix.html
Accessed 23 September 2019


Gun-Toter From Obama Event: I, Like My Pastor, Want The President To Die
By Justin Elliott | August 31, 2009
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/gun-toter-from-obama-event-i-like-my-pastor-want-the-president-to-die
Accessed 23 September 2019


5. Gilbert Arizona Tea Party - Pastor Steven L Anderson Speaks AZ
sanderson1611
Published on Jul 4, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVemYhWSFPM
Accessed 23 September 2019


7/6/09 Broadcast "Tea Party Speech Part 1 (Gilbert AZ)"
Steven Anderson
Published on Jul 4, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abjSK2-RsmY
Accessed 23 September 2019


7/7/09 Broadcast "Tea Party Speech Part 2 (Gilbert AZ)"
Steven Anderson
Published on Jul 15, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a40JC1yzETM
Accessed 23 September 2019


7/8/09 Broadcast "Phoenix Tea Party Speech on July 4 AZ"
Steven Anderson
Published on Jul 15, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6ziYM0jLZA
Accessed 23 September 2019


6. Pastor Tased and "Beaten" at Checkpoint Plans to Sue; Admits He's Been Resisting at Checkpoints for Months
Ray Stern | April 17, 2009
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/pastor-tased-and-beaten-at-checkpoint-plans-to-sue-admits-hes-been-resisting-at-checkpoints-for-months-6661889
Accessed 23 September 2019


I knew something was wrong, but I had no idea...
Henry Porter, Thursday April 16, 2009
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2009/4/16/721030/-I-knew-something-was-wrong,-but-I-had-no-idea
Accessed 23 September 2019


Pastor Claims Abuse at Border Patrol Checkpoint on Interstate 8
Ray Stern | April 16, 2009
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/pastor-claims-abuse-at-border-patrol-checkpoint-on-interstate-8-6665080
Accessed 23 September 2019


Abusive Border Patrol Agents w/ Nun Chucks at NM Checkpoint
sanderson1611
Published on Feb 6, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFS7oZtE8Ks
Accessed 23 September 2019


Baptist pastor beaten + tazed by Border patrol - 11 stitches
sanderson1611
Published on Apr 15, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUzd7G875Hc
Accessed 23 September 2019


ACTUAL FOOTAGE Pastor Beaten & Tased by Border Patrol & DPS
sanderson1611
Published on May 12, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJF5cUWXA_A
Accessed 23 September 2019


I’m Not Sure If I’m An American Citizen or Not
sanderson1611
Published on Feb 16, 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0b3xV8smt8&t=0s&list=FLq7BdmVpQsay5XrwOgMhN5w&index=517
Accessed 23 September 2019


Randomly Stopped and Searched for WMD's in North Texas!
sanderson1611
Published on May 5, 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSgR4ujCBWA&t=0s&list=FLq7BdmVpQsay5XrwOgMhN5w&index=502
Accessed 23 September 2019


Police threaten to KILL Pastor over License Plate Light being Burned Out
sanderson1611
Published on Oct 7, 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYjI138u1z0&index=485&list=FLq7BdmVpQsay5XrwOgMhN5w&t=0s
Accessed 23 September 2019


How Many Checkpoints in One Morning?! Welcome to the Police State!
sanderson1611
Published on Jul 9, 2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDCXzqgD99o
Accessed 23 September 2019


Citizen of Israel vs. Nazi Checkpoints
sanderson1611
Published on Jan 16, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFk2SQfoBio
Accessed 23 September 2019


7. Steve Anderson Arizona Breakfast Club Phoenix Arizona
oneidea2112
Published on Apr 25, 2009
Sponsored by Freedom's Phoenix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm9ch28uS9M
Accessed 23 September 2019


Steve Anderson Arizona Breakfast Club 2 of 2 phoenix Arizona
oneidea2112
Published on Apr 25, 2009
Sponsored by Freedom's Phoenix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d86UYQGE7TA
Accessed 23 September 2019


Pastor Steven Anderson interview on Freedom's Phoenix TV
WeAreChangeAZ
Published on Apr 19, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z_tDivKVcQ
Accessed 23 September 2019


8. My Journey to Libertarianville
by Marc J. Victor
https://attorneysforfreedom.com/articles-by-marc-j-victor/my-journey-to-libertarianville
Accessed 23 September 2019


Jekyll Island: A New Beginning for America
May 25, 2009
https://wethepeoplefoundation.org/UPDATE/Update2009-05-25.htm
Accessed 23 September 2019


4409 vs The Road Pirates
Marc J. Victor
https://attorneysforfreedom.com/blognews/4409-vs-the-road-pirates
Accessed 23 September 2019


Urban Dictionary: Definition of “4409”
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=4409


In the following articles, Steven Anderson is shown to not only socialize with Ernest Hancock and Jason “4409” Shelton, and other We the People types, but they also call him “friend”:
Steven Anderson's Yuma City Warrant for "Disorderly Conduct," and RP4409's Moronic Misuse of the Word "Nazi" (w/Update)
Stephen Lemons | September 3, 2009
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/steven-andersons-yuma-city-warrant-for-disorderly-conduct-and-rp4409s-moronic-misuse-of-the-word-nazi-w-update-6502719
Accessed 23 September 2019


Pastor Steven Anderson has warrant out for his arrest
Written by Powell Gammill Date: 09-01-2009
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/056644-2009-09-01-pastor-steven-anderson-has-warrant-out-for-his-arrest.htm
Accessed 23 September 2019


4409 -- NAZI Checkpoint Confronted - 3
Written by Forty Four O Nine Subject: Videos by 4409
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/051378-2009-06-06-4409-nazi-checkpoint-confronted-3.htm
Accessed 23 September 2019


Scottsdale Arrests Photo Radar Protester, But Did Police Break His Toe, Too?
Ray Stern | August 29, 2008
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/scottsdale-arrests-photo-radar-protester-but-did-police-break-his-toe-too-6660800
Accessed 23 September 2019


9. A representative list of some of Steven Anderson’s favorite YouTube videos (note, many have been either made private or removed from YouTube by Steven Anderson):
“Passengers are NOT required to Show ID to Police!”
“Call to Benson Police Department who threaten to KILL Pastor”
“WTC 7 blew itself up out of sympathy for the twin towers.”
“How to handle a Census Worker” [Instructions on how to avoid answering all the census questions]
“Arrested over Arizona's Real I.D. Paper's Please SB1070 bill”
“NAZI Checkpoint Guards get a taste of their own medicine!”
“Customs K9 Team Deployed at Internal Immigration Checkpoint”
“(Busted) Redflex Photo Radar red light Scams on video!”
“Has agent 4409 inspected your trash?”
“EXTORTION COURT 101”
“Play “Know Your Rights” A Nazi Style Check Point Inside the USA,”
“DHS Checkpoint Blog Entry 9: 'Cruz' Control”
“DHS Checkpoint Blog Entry 14: Obedience Training”


10. Pastor Steven Anderson interview on Freedom's Phoenix TV
WeAreChangeAZ
Published on Apr 19, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z_tDivKVcQ
Accessed 23 September 2019


Jekyll Island: A New Beginning for America
May 25, 2009
https://wethepeoplefoundation.org/UPDATE/Update2009-05-25.htm
Accessed 23 September 2019


Midwifing the Militias
Heidi Beirich
Intelligence Project Director
March 02, 2010
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2010/midwifing-militias
Accessed 23 September 2019


Resist Tyranny with a "Death by a Thousand Cuts" Guerrilla Strategy
Submitted by Dave Hodges on Saturday, October 12, 2013
https://thecommonsenseshow.com/activism/resist-tyranny-death-thousand-cuts-guerrilla-strategy
Accessed 23 September 2019


AR-15 Chris Broughton on the Alex Jones show - August 20th 2009
MP3 of live radio show with Alex Jones
08-20-2009
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/055947-2009-08-20-ar15-chris-b-on-the-alex-jones-show-august-20th.htm
Accessed 23 September 2019


Update on protestor with assault rifle at Obama event in Phoenix
Posted by AzBlueMeanie, August 22, 2009
https://arizona.typepad.com/blog/2009/08/update-on-guns-at-obama-event-in-phoenix.html
Accessed 23 September 2019


Gun-Toter From Obama Event: I, Like My Pastor, Want The President To Die
By Justin Elliott | August 31, 2009
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/gun-toter-from-obama-event-i-like-my-pastor-want-the-president-to-die
Accessed 23 September 2019


Every Christian should own a Weapon
sanderson1611
Published on Dec 9, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD9oiT5qaEM
Accessed 23 September 2019


Why we allow and encourage firearms at our service
sanderson1611
Published on Nov 19, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NAeF8CgpTE
Accessed 23 September 2019


See Also:
Christian's Duty to Carry a GUN
Adam Fannin
Stedfast Jacksonville
Published on Oct 28, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPZ25hCX75g


For other examples of Steven Anderson’s violent hatred, please see:
Pastor Steven Anderson Crazy Rants – Compilation
Surfer Brendan
Published Decemeber 16, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttxumEkHnKE&feature=youtu.be


Steven Anderson's Hatred and Railing
Christopher Johnson
Published on Mar 14, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpdkZwISgRg


Steven Anderson's Hatred and Wrath
Christopher Johnson
Published on Mar 14, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2JgwH2ir0s


Pastor Steven Anderson Epic Rant
The Kragen Clan
Published on Jan 25, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Bvyp0gyQs&feature=youtu.be


Best Pastor Steven Anderson Rants/Hard Preaching pt 3
Baptist 1611
Published on Dec 30, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUD0SIjWWAY


Pastor Steven Anderson - Jeremiah 16
On!yDaTruth
Published on Jun 28, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TK3fA_iTQQ

Anderson stated that at that time, at 11:10am on Friday January 4, 2019, Jonathan Shelley was the incoming pastor and they -- Anderson and Shelley -- were the "legitimate leadership of the church." Not the men of Stedfast Baptist Church, but Anderson and Shelley. In an interview with Jonathan Shelley, he admitted that he was the only candidate for the position of pastor for Stedfast.6 There were no other candidates, no one else was ever considered. And this was all before the meeting that Anderson called for later that evening, and certainly before the meeting Anderson called for the following night where he talked about bringing in Jonathan Shelley and the men of Stedfast “decided” to accept Shelley as their new pastor. They may think they decided who would be their new pastor, and they may think Steven Anderson only suggested Jonathan Shelley for the position; but they would be wrong. Steven Anderson made that decision, and his decision was to install his protege Jonathan Shelley into the position of pastor of Stedfast Baptist Church.
All those videos that Anderson and Shelley made where they claimed they had been in contact with Adam Fannin and keeping him the loop, and trying to get him to cooperate are really nothing more than setting the stage for what Anderson – with the help of Jonathan Shelley, was about to do.
As has been noted, Anderson began with a series of videos he posted to YouTube from January 5-9, 2019, wherein he made accusations against Adam Fannin that moved from subtly implied to explicit, when he clearly accused Adam Fannin of theft, claiming the police were called, and condemning him for this alleged theft from the church. We now know that those accusations were all false. Fannin did not steal anything, and when interviewed, Ben “the Baptist” Naim was emphatic that the police were never once called on Adam Fannin. In other words, Steven Anderson lied. But not only did he lie and bear false witness against Adam Fannin, but he was also engaging in hypocrisy. Anderson had already made it clear that he knew Donnie Romero stole $50,000 from the church, and he also made it clear that he was not going to hold Romero accountable for this theft, and he took steps to cover it up by ordering the men at the meeting to not tell anyone about it. Clearly then, stealing from the church was not a serious crime in Anderson’s mind. Not even stealing $50,000. So any indignation Anderson presented to the camera for his anti-Adam Fannin assault videos was nothing more than hypocrisy. But it accomplished what Anderson was trying to achieve, and that was to turn the New IFB sentiment against Adam Fannin, and that is exactly what Steven Anderson did. It is amazing how easily so many in the New IFB are manipulated. At the same time, it is also very sad how easily so many in the New IFB are manipulated.
Once he had Fannin removed from the New IFB, Anderson did not ease up in his campaign against Fannin. It was not long before two men from the Stedfast satellite church in Jacksonville, Florida began making the rounds of area casinos, allegedly seeking information about Donnie Romero and Adam Fannin. Whether they were under orders of Steven Anderson, or took it upon themselves to do this is a matter of conjecture. At the very least, however, they were there with Anderson’s full blessing.
According to Anderson, the two men, Ben “the Baptist” Naim and Jeff Utzler, visited these casinos armed with photographs of Donnie Romero and Adam Fannin, allegedly to discover if they had been to the casinos.7 But we have to ask to what end? Romero had already confessed to visiting the casinos, so there was no question there, and nothing to learn. And, in an interview with Donnie Romero, he stated that when Anderson asked him if Fannin was involved in any way, Romero told him no. Adam Fannin was not involved, and that as far as he knew Fannin had never been in a casino in his life.8 In addition to this, Romero publicly stated in the comments section of his YouTube apology video, that Adam Fannin was innocent of any wrong doing.9

Interviews with local casino employees revealed that Ben Naim and Jeff Utzler did indeed visit them, armed with photos of two men (allegedly photos of Romero and Fannin). The casino employees we spoke with stated they did not recognize either Romero or Fannin. The bartender at the Best Bet Casino in Jacksonville said she remembers Naim and Utzler coming in and showing her the photos, and then staying for lunch.14
A former member of Stedfast Jacksonville who has asked to remain anonymous stated, “You know, I wouldn’t put it past them. I wouldn’t put it past them to try and frame him. It’s just super sad. I heard some rumors they were going to try some stuff like that to try and incorporate Bro. Fannin in Donnie Romero’s sin.”15 This individual went on to say that no one even had the idea to investigate Fannin, “until Shelley tried to fire Adam Fannin. When he first tried to fire Adam Fannin, I feel like at that point a switch went off in their minds, and they’re like, ‘ruin Adam Fannin’s life.’ I don’t think they care if they frame him, or if they are truthful or not, obviously. You can see it in their videos, they don’t care if they’re telling the truth or not. They’re just [throwing] everything they can at Adam Fannin. I mean, if the worst thing they can say against him is he’s a flatterer, you’re going to say he’s a reprobate, he’s unsaved because he’s a flatterer? I mean, like there’s no other flatterers? Ben the Baptist is like the biggest flatterer ever to some of those guys. He was to Adam Fannin too. I feel like they are just trying to ruin Bro. Fannin’s life.”16
When one takes into consideration the complete lack of evidence against Adam Fannin, coupled with Romero’s exoneration of him, and Anderson’s knowledge of that; Anderson’s actions in this situation are very suspect to say the least, and certainly demonstrate what kind of man he really is.

Part 3f Sources:
1. Interview with former member of Stedfast Baptist Church conducted 25 July 2019. This person expressed legitimate concern for their personal safety and the safety of their family, as based on their personal experience with the Stedfast pastor and other members of Stedfast.


2. Interview with Steven Anderson conducted 09 March 2019


3. Ibid


4. Ibid


5. Ibid


6. Interview with Jonathan Shelley conducted 23 Feb 2019


7. Steven Anderson Uncensored (Episode 3)
sanderson1611
Streamed live 06 June 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Zk6D9xsjI&t=8331s


8. Interview with Donnie Romero conducted 26 June 2019


9. I’m sorry for the sins I’ve committed and the people I’ve hurt
[Donnie Romero apology video]
Uploaded by: shedrock
Published January 9, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q80awpau7F4&t=12s


10. Casinos and Gambling are Wicked
Uploaded by: sanderson1611 (Steven Anderson)
published on February 21, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TiehZzRlJY


2 Corinthians 8 (Love of Money, Giving, Deep Poverty)
Uploaded by: sanderson1611 (Steven Anderson)
Streamed live on February 20, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDc8KGFQ8E4


11. Steven Anderson Uncensored (Episode 3)
Uploaded by: sanderson1611 (Steven Anderson)
Streamed live on June 6, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CxPJwzIjhQ&t=4111s


12. Steven Anderson Uncensored (Episode 6)
Uploaded by: sanderson1611 (Steven Anderson)
Streamed live on August 10, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CxPJwzIjhQ&t=4111s


13. Video comment from Jeff Utzler


14. Casino’s in the area include Best Bet Casino Jacksonville, Best Bet Casino Orange Park, Victory Casino, Daytona Racing and Card Club, Emerald Princess Casino, and Big M Casino.

Interview with Best Best Jacksonville Bartender July 2019


15. Interview with a second former member of Stedfast Baptist Church conducted on 26 June 2019. This person expressed legitimate concern for their personal safety and the safety of their family, as based on their personal experience with the Stedfast pastor and other members of Stedfast.


16. Ibid

As can be seen, Steven Anderson and the New IFB have absolutely no problem attacking anyone they don’t like. In fact, there doesn’t seem to be any rhyme nor reason, no guidelines they might follow when they determine they are going to attack someone. They might go after an individual and/or their family (such as the examples given), or they might go after a group of people such as the homosexual community (as we’ve already shown), or a different religion such as Hindus, Buddhists, or Mormons (the New IFB has produced “documentaries” condemning all of these). Or, they might go after Christians simply because they don’t like or agree with their doctrinal beliefs, such as Calvinists, who the New IFB has repeatedly mocked, belittled, and condemned via misrepresentations, caricaturizations, and other strawman arguments. Almost anyone outside the New IFB seems to be a target for Steven Anderson and his New IFB.
Even this author has been targeted by them. They complained about a video, the single solitary video on my YouTube channel. They video exposed Jonathan Shelley’s self-aggrandizing, self-righteous, attitude by using Shelley’s own words in a video he produced. As soon as they became aware of it, they complained to YouTube en masse and the entire channel was removed.

Apparently they do not like being exposed for the false teachers they are.
As you have no doubt noticed, the primary weapon utilized by Steven Anderson and the New IFB to display their vitriolic hatred are YouTube videos. This is not to say they are not vocally abusive to people in person, because they are. This is not to say they do not stalk people on the internet, as well as physically, because they do. This is not to say they don’t use child protective services as a weapon, calling CPS on those who disagree with them publicly, because they will. But the primary weapon they use to attack others are YouTube videos, and the primary purpose of these videos is character assassination, including defamation and slander. In this next chapter, we will take a look at some examples of the New IFB “Takin’ it to the Tube” brand of assault videos.
Those attacked by Steven Anderson and his New IFB movement affiliated churches and followers seem to fall into three primary categories:
1. Unbelievers and Non-IFB Christians who either disagree with them, or whom they arbitrarily deem as reprobate (a label they toss around like a Frisbee at a beach party), which we have already addressed.
2. Old IFB who disagree with them
3. Former New-IFB who disagree with them
Basically, the primary motivation for them to begin their video assault on someone is disagreement. If someone disagrees with them, they start making videos. And if they really don’t like someone, then they bring out the big guns: a YouTube video “documentary”! These are usually nothing more than compilation videos coupled with rantings, belittlement, mocking, and generally bashing the subject of the “documentary.” They generally last anywhere from thirty minutes to a couple hours in length, and they are usually produced by New IFB Steven Anderson sycophant Jeff Utzler. The same Jeff Utzler written about in a previous article in this series.
Hatred, vitriol, malicious slander, public shaming, shunning, mockery, belittlement, ranting and railing are all tools employed by Anderson and his New IFB in these assault videos, and anyone who dares to disagree with them is attacked as a heretic and a reprobate beyond salvation. And they dare to call themselves “Christians.” Contrary to the apparent belief staunchly held by Steven Anderson and his New IFB, they are not the standard by which Christianity is measured. No, the actual standard, and final arbiter on who is and is not a Christian, and what is and is not Christian behavior is God; and He has set forth this standard in Scripture.
So how does Scripture describe the attitude and behavior a Christian is to have toward others? One such description can be found in Romans 12:14-21, which states,
“14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not. 15 Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep. 16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits. 17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. 18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. 20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. 21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.”
Does Steven Anderson, or anyone else in the New IFB exhibit these God-commanded attitudes and behaviors? Romans 12:14-21 can be broken down into thirteen questions we can call the “Christian Attitude and Behavior Quotient” test. Of course, this particular test is based only on this particular passage. If we were to employ all of Scripture the test would be significantly longer, and likely biased against Anderson and his New IFB. Therefore, we will stick with this “abbreviated” version. A quotient is a degree or amount of a specified quality or characteristic. So the higher the score on this “CABQ” test, the more Christian, or Christlike, the subject is.
1. Do they bless those who persecute them?
2. Do they refrain from cursing those who persecute them?
3. Do they rejoice with those who rejoice and weep with those who weep?
4. Are they impartial and of the same mind toward one another?
5. Do they avoid self-seeking, prideful attitudes?
6. Do they associate with the humble?
7. Are they wise in their own conceits, thinking themselves better or more spiritual or more righteous than others who profess Christ?
8. Are they vindictive and vengeful, repaying evil with evil?
9. Are they honest and respectful, providing these things to ALL men?
10. Do they live peaceably with ALL men?
11. Are they content to trust the Lord to avenge any and all wrongdoing done to them?
12. Do they care for the physical and spiritual needs of their enemies?
13. Do they overcome evil with good?
To score this Christian Attitude and Behavior Quotient, or CABQ test, each correct answer is awarded one point, and each incorrect answer is awarded one negative point. Therefore, the best possible score is 13 (indicating the most Christlike based on this passage), and the worst possible score is -13 (indicating the least Christlike based on this passage). For example, if you are able to answer twelve questions correctly, you would have a score of 12; but by answering one question incorrectly, you would deduct one point, leaving you with a score of 11. If you answer ten questions correctly you would have a score of 10; but, answering the remaining three questions incorrectly means you deduct three points, leaving you with a score of 7. Christians should be able to answer yes to all of these questions except for numbers 7 and 8, which should be answered no. Granted, no one is perfect, and each Christian will be at a different level of maturity. Therefore, having even a low CABQ of 1 or 2 might indicate a relatively low level of Christian maturity, while a CABQ of 12 or 13 might indicate a very high level of Christian maturity. Keeping the attitude of Steven Anderson and the New IFB, and the CABQ test in mind, let’s take a look at some examples of “Takin’ it to the Tube!” After which, we will revisit the CABQ.
First we will look at examples pertaining to those within the “Old” IFB.

As has been noted previously, Sam Gipp has been the subject of harassment at the hands of Steven Anderson and his New IFB movement for several years. From New IFB personality Jeff Utzler making prank calls to Gipp’s cell phone (as well as doxxing* Dr. Gipp by displaying his personal cell phone number); to a gang of New IFB thugs from Verity Baptist Church in Boise, Idaho (a Roger Jimenez church) descending on Dr. Gipp’s home to personally intimidate and harass him; to making a concerted effort to telephone all the churches that Dr. Gipp speaks at and trying to discredit Dr. Gipp – and sometimes threaten those pastors who host Dr. Gipp; to Steven Anderson and other New IFB folks producing numerous mocking and slanderous videos which they post publicly to YouTube.

[*doxxing: The act of publishing personal and private information on the internet, usually with malicious intent. ]

Steven Anderson has made the claim that Sam Gipp is deranged and obsessed with him. He apparently bases this on the videos that Dr. Gipp has made about Steven Anderson. One which exposes Anderson’s teachings and movement as false and cult-like, and the other that was made in response to one of Anderson’s anti-Gipp videos. However, when one compares the two videos Dr. Gipp has made about Steven Anderson to the twenty-nine videos Steven Anderson has made which mock, misrepresent, and slander Dr. Gipp; it is painfully clear who is psychopathically obsessed with whom. And this doesn’t begin to address the anti-Gipp videos produced and posted to YouTube by Jeff Utzler and other New IFB people who are following in Anderson’s footsteps.

Keith Gomez is the pastor of Northwest Bible Baptist Church in Elgin, Illinois, an Independent Fundamental Baptist Church. Note, IFB but not New IFB (Anderson’s movement). And because he is “old” IFB and friends with Dr. Sam Gipp and other “old” IFB pastors and preachers, pastor Gomez is automatically considered an enemy by Steven Anderson; and as has been noted, as Steven Anderson goes so goes the New IFB. Therefore, it is not unusual that other New IFB people jumped on the “Bash Pastor Gomez” bandwagon. To date, there are sixteen anti-Keith Gomez videos published to YouTube by Steven Anderson, Tommy McMurtry (New IFB pastor), and Paul Niven (The New IFB website).

One of the favorite kicking dogs of Steven Anderson and the New IFB is Bryan Denlinger, who is an independent Fundamental Baptist who has fashioned himself as an internet Bible teacher, and who uses the YouTube screen name “husky394xp”. Not only have there been numerous videos posted to YouTube bashing him, but many of the comments made by New IFB adherents have followed suit. As an example, in one video, titled, “Husky the Heretic Denies Salvation by Faith Alone” published by Ben “the Baptist” Naim in November 2018, Naim refers to Bryan as “Bryan Dinkhammer, Dinlinger, Dinklinker, Dingbat, Dinghammer,” and more. Naim says Bryan looks like a “demonic raccoon,” calls him a “moron,” and he mocks Bryan Denlinger by mimicking him and using what is apparently supposed to be the voice of a mentally disabled person (which Ben apparently thinks Bryan is).
Representative of the comments made by New IFB adherents are:

CassieRae McMurtry (wife of New IFB pastor Tommy McMurtry): I call him "Bryan Ding-donger"
Sean Wallace: I call him dungslinger
David Robinson: I call him Dumblinger.
James MCMLXXXVI: Dunglicker
Alberto Hernandez: I call him Brian Dungeater.
Patiently Waiting: Dingleberry
Florida Mark: Dumblooker
Matt Powell [New IFB Preacher]: I hate Bryan Denlinger.
Jacksmack77: .....blasphemous, unsaved devil. I can't tell who he looks like more: Burt or Ernie! What a hellbound bastard!
Rozay: This husky guy should be taken out and slaughtered
redlisab: "Professor" Dingledork
Shawn Barnish: Dill-Lingerer
Jeremy Gore: Brian dumpdumpster
loonypics: Ding Clinke
One viewer, however, actually took the high ground and called them out on their unchristian behavior. The person going by the YouTube screen name, “04inGoditrust04,” wrote, “Why are you name calling and picking on his appearance?”

To date there are ten anti-Bryan Denlinger videos posted to YouTube by Ben Naim, Steven Anderson, Bruce Mejia, Paul Niven, Matt Powell, and “Guzman1611.”



Of course, the New IFB does not limit their YouTube assaults to those in the Old IFB, as they are more than happy to launch attacks against almost each and every New IFB person who has found themselves kicked out of their movement for whatever reason (even when they weren’t really in their movement to begin with, but that’s another story). People like Garrett Kirchway, who they blasted with at least five videos5; and Tyler Doka who was slammed with six hate videos6; and Victor Tey, with eight videos against him7; and Domonique Davis, Gleb Glebov, Rick Martinez, Elliott Ray, and Russell Bopst with at least eight videos against them8.
Perhaps the worst YouTube attacks committed by Steven Anderson and the New IFB, at least to date, have been against Tyler Baker, the pastor of Valiant Baptist Church of Jacksonville, Florida; and Adam Fannin, the pastor of Law of Liberty Baptist Church, also in Jacksonville, Florida.

Tyler Baker was initially ordained by Steven Anderson himself, as a deacon in Anderson’s Faithful Word Baptist Church. Anderson was in the process of training Baker to be a pastor in his own right. Anderson’s plan was to open a church plant in Jacksonville, Florida, and call it Valiant Baptist Church, with Baker as the pastor. In addition to training Baker to prepare sermons and preach, he also placed Baker in charge of his church’s finances, with Baker being in charge of tallying up the tithes and offerings from Anderson’s three Arizona churches as well as all of the online donations and ensuring all of the money was deposited into Anderson’s church account.
There are many who like to point out that the account is in the church’s name, and not Steven Anderson’s, and that Anderson is nothing more than a paid employee of the church. However, as we have already discovered, Faithful Word Baptist Church is a non-profit corporation with Steven Anderson as CEO, President, Chairman of the Board of Directors, and the only member of the Board of the Directors. He has no elder board, no governing board, no church board, and he answers to no one. He, and he alone makes all decisions regarding Faithful Word Baptist Church and that includes all decisions regarding any and all money coming into his church. In effect, Steven Anderson IS Faithful Word Baptist Church, therefore, every penny coming into the church is coming into Steven Anderson. All $120,000 per month (based on an average of total yearly donations divided by twelve), according to Tyler Baker, Anderson’s deacon in charge of finances.
When Anderson changed his doctrine of God and went from teaching modalism to tri-theism, he almost immediately fired Baker for believing in a modalistic view of God. At least this is Anderson’s explanation (although he denies ever teaching modalism, in spite of the mountain of video evidence to the contrary). His explanation doesn’t make much sense, however, when one considers Baker simply believed the exact same modalistic doctrine that Anderson had taught him, and every other person in his church.
When Anderson fired Baker on June 19, 2017, a video was taken of the incident, during which the actual reason Anderson fired Baker was revealed. In the video Anderson can be seen screaming at Baker, making threatening and intimidating gestures, and calling Baker just about everything but a child of God. In the video Anderson can be seen telling Baker that he hated working with him, that his behavior was “unf******g believable,” that he “s****d” as an employee, saying “I have been this close to firing you every month, the only reason I kept you around was I didn’t want to rock the boat ’cause you’re leaving anyway.” He went on saying, “If I had to work with you the rest of my life I would have fired you a long time ago. You are lazy! You s**k! You’ve never done anything that I’ve told you to do beyond the minimum. ...At the best of times you’re a C minus.” He repeatedly told Baker he was a liar, especially when he confronted Baker about something Baker had allegedly said and Baker denied it. And here it was revealed that Anderson lost control and lost his temper simply because of a false allegation made against Tyler Baker. Sound familiar? The same thing happened with the Berg family.
Someone came to Anderson and told him that Tyler Baker was going around behind Anderson’s back and “talking crap” about Anderson’s church and that his (Baker’s) church was going to be so much better. The little worm-tongue whispering in Anderson’s ear also told him that Baker was promoting oneness Pentecostalism to people behind Anderson’s back. Anderson becomes so incensed when he thinks or hears someone is talking behind his back and without his permission (whether true or not true), that he doesn’t take the time to investigate (although he claims he does, we now know better) the claims, and he immediately takes them at face value. This is why, according to the video, he fired Tyler Baker.
Anderson continued to circle Baker, railing at him, saying, “You’re an idiot...You’re a liar, your testimony s**ks!” Anderson told him. Anderson’s tirade continued with him telling Baker, “You don’t do anything I tell you! You do nothing! What the h**l do you do for fifty hours last week? You think you can do whatever the h**l you want! You s**k as an employee! You lazy jerk!...You s**k! You s**k! You’ve s****d from the beginning! You’ve always s****d! I told my wife that you’re a C minus when you started, and I told Pastor Jimenez. I told my wife and my one best friend that you’re a bad employee, and I told them that a year ago.”
Now this is an important piece of information. According to the video, Anderson fired Tyler Baker on June 19, 2017. If he told his wife and Roger Jimenez a year prior that Baker was a bad employee, then that would mean at least as early as June 2016 Steven Anderson knew, or at least believed, that Tyler Baker was not pastor material, and throughout that ensuing year, up until the day he fired Baker, a mere six weeks before he planned to send Baker to Jacksonville, Florida to start a church as the pastor of that church plant, Anderson believed that Baker was a bad employee, that he “s****d,” that he was “lazy,” and that at best he was a “C minus.” Think about that for a minute. How poorly must Steven Anderson think of the people of Jacksonville, Florida that we was willing to send to them someone he did not believe was pastor material, to be their new pastor? Apparently Anderson doesn’t hold the people of Jacksonville in very high regard.
After he left Faithful Word Baptist Church and the clearly tyrannically unhinged Steven Anderson, Tyler Baker returned to his home church, New Macedonia Baptist Church in Newport, Kentucky where, eight months later in February 2018 Baker was ordained; and, in March 2018 he was sent to Jacksonville, Florida to start a new church which Baker named Valiant Baptist Church.
After FWBC, baker returned to Northern Kentucky, and then to New Macedonia Baptist Church in Newport, Kentucky, his home church, where he was ordained in February 2018. In March 2018, he was sent to Jacksonville to start a church, which he named Valiant Baptist church. Concerned that Baker would do this very thing, Anderson tried to thwart his plans by ordering Donnie Romero, then the pastor of Stedfast Baptist Church in Fort Worth, Texas (whom Anderson had ordained and sent to Fort Worth to start Stedfast) to start a new church plant in Jacksonville, Florida. Romero complied and in August 2017 he started Stedfast Baptist Church Jacksonville, a church which later split when it was discovered Romero had been involved with gambling, prostitutes and illegal drugs. Apparently Steven Anderson was developing a habit of sending people he either believed or actually were not pastor material to Jacksonville.
Almost immediately upon his firing the “let’s-bash-Tyler-Baker” videos began to appear on YouTube. Initially coming from Anderson and others at his Tempe, Arizona church; it was not long before the rest of the New IFB jumped on the railing bandwagon, all of them seemingly trying to out do the others in slandering Tyler Baker. To date there are at least a whopping fifty-six of these video assaults dedicated to slandering, smearing, and slamming Tyler Baker. Fifty-Six! And all of it started because some unnamed person started whispering false accusations into Steven Anderson’s ear, and rather than doing his due diligence as a pastor and investigating the accusations, Anderson chose to just fly off the handle and attack his own deacon.

The “Adam Fannin” situation is a bizarre one to say the least. In August 2017, Donnie Romero, the pastor of Stedfast Baptist Church in Fort Worth, Texas ordained Adam Fannin as an evangelist, and sent him out to Jacksonville, Florida to start a church plant called Stedfast Baptist Church Jacksonville (commonly known as Stedfast Jax).
On Wednesday, January 2, 2019, Donnie Romero resigned as the pastor of Stedfast church, after admitting to visiting casinos and gambling, engaging the services of prostitutes, and using illegal drugs. The following day, on Thursday, January 3, 2019, Steven Anderson notified the world via a YouTube video (of course) of Donnie Romero’s sin and subsequent fall from NIFB grace. When Romero’s wife discovered what her husband had been up to, she notified Steven Anderson and asked him to come to Fort Worth to handle the situation. This was an odd turn of events in that she should have gone to the more mature men of her own church, and asked them to take over the day to day operations of the church because of her husbands indiscretions. Calling the pastor of what is supposed to be an unaffiliated church more than 1,000 miles away would be a serious breach of church protocol in any normal church. Of course, we aren’t talking about a normal church, we are talking about the New IFB, which is, in spite of what they claim, the very essence of a denomination and with Steven Anderson as its de facto leader.
Anderson immediately traveled to Fort Worth and established himself there as the interim pastor of Stedfast. Whether officially or autocratically the result was the same. He was making the decisions, and was the one who ordered Romero to step down. He was there for that Wednesday night service, and in what was ostensibly a magnanimous gesture offered himself to the folks of Stedfast as a guiding light in their time of trouble. One can almost see the wolf-like smile on his face.
On Thursday night, Anderson called together the men of Stedfast church for a closed door meeting. He insisted that no one record the meeting, and also insisted that no one was to talk about what was discussed during that meeting. The meeting must have been called on short notice, because only five men attended in addition to Anderson. They were Steven Harper, Jesse Michael, John Stebner, Emanuel Zermano, and Kevin Edelmann. According to one of these men, who agreed to speak only on the condition of anonymity, stated Anderson explained to them the extent of Romero’s wrong doing, which apparently included embezzeling as much as $50,000 from the church. Anderson then instructed the men not to talk to anyone about Romero’s financial crimes because, “we have to keep Donnie out of jail.” Anderson used a grossly twisted eisegesis of 1 Corinthians chapter 6 (Christians are not to take other Christians to court to settle their grievances) as biblical support for this.
At some point during all of this, someone either made an off hand comment, or asked the question, or made a patently false accusation about Adam Fannin possibly or actually being involved in Romero’s sins. As we have repeatedly seen, it doesn’t take much for a single comment to worm its way into Anderson’s mind, and niggle around until he manages to form a full fledged conspiracy surrounding it. And, as we have also repeatedly seen, Anderson never actually investigates situations such as this, preferring instead to simply assume he is right in whatever imagined scenario he can conjure up.
However it happened, on Friday, January 4, 2019, at 12:10pm Jacksonville, Florida time (11:10am Fort Worth, Texas time), Steven Anderson sent a text message to Adam Fannin giving him two choices. One he can leave Stedfast, or two he can stay. Anderson went on to write, however, “If you stay with Stedfast, you are fired. Pastor Shelley is on the same page. Those are your two choices.”
Wait, what? Who said anything about Shelley? At this point Jonathan Shelley was the pastor of Pure Words Baptist Church in Houston, Texas (where Anderson had sent him), and had nothing to do with Stedfast. In fact, on this same day Jonathan Shelley posted a video to YouTube titled, “Stedfast Baptist Church Jacksonville – Adam Fannin” during which he states he is not the pastor of Stedfast. He makes comments offering himself, although he doesn’t really want to move there; and, “if I take on Stedfast,” so it is clear that at this point Jonathan Shelley had no authority whatsoever at Stedfast.
In fact, it wasn’t until the night of January 4, 2019 that it was decided by Steven Anderson – or rather the men of Stedfast as led by and told by Steven Anderson, to bring in Jonathan Shelley as the new pastor of Stedfast Baptist Church. Anderson called a second closed door meeting for that night at about 7pm, again for the men of Stedfast. The meeting lasted about three hours and at the end of it Shelley was the new pastor of Stedfast. Interestingly, Steven Anderson has said he had no way to include the men of Stedfast Jax in the closed door meeting. However, this has been shown to be a lie (not unusual for Steven Anderson) as the men of Stedfast Jax were holding their own meeting at the exact same time, and they actually telephoned Stedfast Fort Worth during the joint meeting and spoke with Jonathan Shelley via conference call and on an open speaker. The Stedfast Jax meeting was recorded, including this conference call, and including the questions that were asked of Jonathan Shelley, and including Shelley hanging up on the men of Stedfast Jax as if they mattered not one whit to him.
Naturally, this did not sit well with the majority of the men of Stedfast Jax, and they opted to not accept Jonathan Shelley as their new long distance pastor and losing Adam Fannin, the man who had been their “pastor” in all but title to an arbitrary dismissal at the hands of someone who essentially took over without any actual authority. For Steven Anderson this was all the proof he needed to believe Fannin was guilty of all manner of nefarious deeds. This can be seen in a series of videos produced by Steven Anderson and posted to YouTube between early Saturday morning, January 5, 2019 and the evening of Wednesday, January 9, 2019; wherein he makes all manner of comments about Adam Fannin that begin somewhat negative, but benign, and progressing to out and out accusations by the end of those four days.
On Saturday, January 5, 2019, earlier in the day, Anderson posts a video to YouTube titled, “Update on Stedfast Baptist Church.” In this video Anderson begins by talking about his impending installation of Jonathan Shelley as the pastor of the three Stedfast churches. He soon moves into talking about Adam Fannin, however, pointing out that Fannin is obstinately trying to sabotage the process, rebelling and being divisive. Anderson paints himself has the helpless victim being slandered and opposed when all he is trying to do is mediate between Fanning and Shelley. Something Fanning is working hard against according to Anderson. Anderson ends the video by saying, “I’m hoping [Adam Fannin] will do the right thing and step down and resign...I still hope he can do the right thing and everybody can stay friends.”
This is, of course, about as disingenuous as it can possibly be. What Anderson has chosen to withhold from his following of loyal but gullible groupies is that he doesn’t hope Adam Fannin will “do the right thing and step down and resign” because he unceremoniously fired Adam Fannin almost twenty-four hours prior to making this video! This entire “Update on Stedfast Baptist Church” is a sham. It is nothing more than a build-up to the increasingly virulent video attacks he is about to launch on Adam Fannin.
Later that same afternoon (January 5, 2019) Anderson uploads a video titled, “Adam Fannin Lies.”
In this video we see the beginning of Anderson’s implied assertions. If you are unfamiliar with the term, it is a legal term defined as “a statement that is not express, but is instead implicated from the context in which the statement is made.” Legally, implied assertions are considered hearsay, and as such as not considered to be reliable. In spite of the lack of reliability in what Anderson says about Fannin, his message is clear: Fannin is guilty unless and until he can prove himself innocent.
In the video, “Adam Fannin Lies,” Anderson states, “The Vast majority of the sins of Romero took place in Jacksonville, Florida. That’s what all the evidence shows, that’s what he himself said. So this has been a pattern of every time he goes to Jacksonville, these things are going on. So how are we supposed to know that Adam Fannin is not involved in this?” Of course, there is no way to know if Adam Fannin was involved other than asking both Fannin and Romero, as they would be the only ones with any knowledge of any involvement Fannin may have had. And barring any evidence to the contrary, there is no reason to suspect Fannin of any wrong doing, and yet, that is exactly what Anderson does, and he says as much in this statement.
Anderson then goes to attempt to mitigate his accusation of Fannin by saying, “Now I’m not accusing him of that, and if anyone accuses him of that without evidence they’re wrong.” Well, of course they are wrong. But this is exactly what Anderson is doing here. He is implicitly accusing Adam Fannin of participating in Donnie Romero’s sins. Anderson confirms this with his next statement: “But at the same time, when there’s all of these squirrelly things going on financially, and when the sins were taking place in Jacksonville, Florida, and every single person I talk to here in Fort Worth says that Romero and Fannin are like two peas in a pod and that they were best buddies, super close, he was the only person Romero was close to, that’s what everyone here is telling me; why would I just be in a hurry to just make sure that Adam Fannin’s up to speed on everything, and keep him in the loop and everything...NO.”
Anderson continues, “If the books are audited by a third party, which has to happen, they’re either going to implicate or exonerate Adam Fannin. If the books show, and if the documentation shows that Adam Fannin was not involved then I’ll be the first to say, don’t accuse him of anything. And, if the books show that he’s guilty, obviously he’s going to be condemned.” Anderson’s meaning here is clear. In his mind, Adam Fannin is guilty unless and until he can prove himself innocent. “If all the sin is taking place predominantly in Jacksonville, Florida,” Anderson says, “and his name is on one of the bank accounts, you know, we just need to wait and see what the independent auditor says.” Just to be sure those of his followers who are watching this video understand, the evidence is stacked against Adam Fannin in Anderson’s mind, even before any investigation is done. This mindset tells you exactly what the conclusions of any investigation are going to be, and that is one of Adam Fannin’s guilt. Regardless of where the investigation leads, regardless of what the evidence reveals, in Anderson’s mind Fannin is as guilty as sin; and he cements this in his closing statement, “You weren’t being told [about any financial decisions regarding the church Fannin was pastoring], Adam Fannin, because I don’t trust you, other people don’t trust you, and based on your behavior you keep proving us right. Why are you so interested in getting into the finances and being involved in the finances?”
The very next day, in his Sunday, January 6, 2019 morning service titled, “As A Dog Returneth To Its Vomit,” Anderson removes all doubt as to what he thinks about Adam Fannin when he says, “There is a wicked element in Jacksonville, they need to go their own way” and leave.
On Monday, January 7, 2019, the day after declaring “there is a wicked element in Jacksonville,” Anderson removed any doubt as to whom he was referring. In a video titled, “Audit of Financial Records in Jacksonville Complete,” Anderson begins by complaining about the way Donnie Romero, the pastor of Stedfast Jacksonville, handled the weekly tithes and offerings. According to sources, Romero’s instructions were for church ushers to collect the tithes and offerings and place them into a zippered cash bag. Adam Fannin would then take and count them, notify Romero of the amount, and then deposit them in the bank. Now, granted this is clearly an odd way to manage the weekly tithes and offerings, but it is the way in which Pastor Donnie Romero wanted it done. Considering he was found to be embezzling money from his church, it is easy to understand why he wanted the money handled in this manner.
Of course, some might question why Adam Fannin did not question Romero’s method of handling the tithes and offerings, and why he didn’t just do things the proper and correct way; but, it bears remembering that in the New IFB questioning the methods of the pastor is considered a grievous sin. Steven Anderson himself has publicly shamed some of his congregants and thrown them out of his church for doing this very same thing. One simply does not question the pastor regarding the way in which he is running his church. It simply isn’t done in the New IFB. And so Adam Fannin did not question Romero’s methods, and simply obeyed him.
However, because Anderson clearly had an agenda when it came to Adam Fannin, he used Fannin’s obedience to his pastor as ammunition to verbally eviscerate Fannin. After complaining about the way in which Romero had Fannin handle the tithes and offerings, he states, “What in the world would stop him from just shoving large amounts of cash in his pocket every week and it doesn’t even make it to the bank!” While this may be true, there is nothing to indicate that Fannin is doing this, or has ever done this. No evidence whatsoever. Yet that doesn’t stop Anderson from making such an implied assertion. Anderson says, “There has been financial fraud that has taken place at Stedfast Jacksonville. There’s no doubt anymore. …And that explains Adam Fannin’s bizarre behavior. …Adam Fannin IS involved in the dishonest financial practices, and he needs to be investigated [to see] whether he’s been involved in the gambling, and the hookers, and everything else, because he was right there with Romero in this shady financial practice.” According to Anderson’s videos, all of these assertions being made by him are based on one or two unsubstantiated text messages to Jonathan Shelley from Joe Uyakim, who was the loudest and most enthusiastic supporter of Jonathan Shelley and the most vociferous opponent of Adam Fannin at Stedfast Jacksonville, during the meeting on January 4, 2019.
As can be clearly seen here, Steven Anderson very methodically begins his attempt to discredit and destroy Adam Fannin through a series of YouTube videos. He begins be presenting himself as a helpful and well meaning man of God, just trying to help Stedfast church in its time of turmoil and trouble, hoping that Adam Fannin will get on board with the program and accept the leadership of Jonathan Shelley. Of course this is all just stage dressing since he had already fired Adam Fannin. Then he begins to question Fannin’s honesty and integrity. Not directly, but indirectly through a very subtle implied accusation. Then the implied accusations become stronger, and then no longer implied but directly stated. Then Anderson moves on from assertions of potential criminal wrongdoing to actual accusations of criminal wrongdoing.
Then, on January 9, 2019, after returning to his church in Tempe, Arizona, Anderson preaches a sermon titled, “Sheba, Son of Bichri – Adam Fannin Exposed,” where he moves from accusations of criminal wrongdoing to stating quite matter-of-factly that not only is Adam Fannin stealing money from the church, but that he now has three witnesses to this, and states, “We proved he was doing wicked things with the finances...Proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt! …The guys out there, the righteous remnant out there, which is the majority out there by the way is not with Fannin. The majority of the church out there, you know what they did? They called the police to evict him! … You better know it’s getting dangerous for you, you thief! … Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do when they come for you!”
Anderson presented these videos in the manner that he did, in order to manipulate his gullible sycophantic followers that Adam Fannin was proven to be guilty of theft, of fraud, of embezzlement. And it worked. Almost immediately Fannin became a pariah in the New IFB. Other New IFB pastors and Andersonites began producing their own videos condemning Adam Fannin for being a railer, a divisive person, a liar, a thief, a false prophet, and a reprobate beyond salvation; and all based on Steven Anderson’s unsubstantiated claims against Fannin. Yep, that’s right. Unsubstantiated. Anderson did not have a single piece of definitive evidence to back up any of the claims he made regarding Adam Fannin’s alleged wrongdoing. Nothing other than his own twisted imagination.
But that’s all it took to convince his thousands of loyal followers, such as Jonathan Shelley, Jeff Utzler, Ben “the Baptist” Naim, and others, to believe his lies and join him in slandering Adam Fannin; and now also those who attend church with him and have called him to be their pastor. And not with ten, or twenty, or fifty, or even seventy-five assault videos; but rather there are well over 100 videos on YouTube alone, that are either directly aimed at Adam Fannin, or mention him derogatorily, or make veiled derogatory statements about him. More than 100! When you consider it takes on average two hours to create a YouTube video (with creation, editing, publishing and all the little related steps), that adds up to about 200 hours of creating these videos. That’s at least two and one-half work weeks (at eight hours per day, five days per week); and that is a whole lot of time spent attacking and slandering one man! Time that could have probably been better spent sharing the gospel with people, or feeding the hungry, or clothing and obtaining housing and shelter for the poor – like Jesus tells His followers to do in Matthew 25:31-46:
“35 For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.” (verses 35-40)
But instead, Steven Anderson and his New IFB followers chose to take that time and use it to slander someone who certainly did not deserve any of persecution they heaped on him. This says a lot about their priorities.





Part 3e Sources:


1. Interview with Dr. Sam Gipp, 03 February 2019


Interview with Tyler Baker, 02 06 February 2019


Regarding Anderson's people (i.e. Tyler Baker) calling churches where Gipp was scheduled to speak, and telling them to cancel Gipp's talk because Gipp is a heretic; one pastor in Maryland was called and told to cancel Sam Gipp because he is a heretic, and the pastor told the caller, “No.” Not long after that, someone called and identified themselves as Steven Anderson and told the pastor to cancel Sam Gipp. The pastor told this person no, and the person claiming to be Steven Anderson told him, “Cancel Sam Gipp or you'll be sorry.”


Pastor Anderson Rant about Lame Baptist Churches [9:56]
sanderson1611
Published on May 31, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvSRnVcnPWA&feature=youtu.be
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


The Truth About Steve Anderson [1:42:42]
Sam Gipp
Published on Jul 8, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaF54M3H5S8
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp's Rebuttal to Steven Anderson [28:34]
Sam Gipp
Published on May 12, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVjDwiOVyqI
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp is Demonic and Evil (hear it for yourself) [10:10]
sanderson1611
Published on May 9, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQTVLK1xe4Q
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Dr. Sam Gipp, Ph.D. - English language expert [8:57]
sanderson1611
Published on October 15, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0Qh3EI2AMI
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp Thinks I’m a Millionaire [6:21]
sanderson1611
Published on May 11, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRn2f-gVKrY&t=188s
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp Blasphemy Refuted & Rebuked [12:35]
sanderson1611
Published on May 10, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN0VEo7sKZ8
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp – not a Ph.D but an M.C. and an O.G. [1:19]
sanderson1611
Published on May 9, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xkoapvV-II
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Red Hot Preaching – Sam Gipp Exposed [11:11]
sanderson1611
Published on May 21, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkxLUnm2W1Q
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp Taught Same Blasphemy Back in January 2016 [2:34]
sanderson1611
Published on May 21, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35t8KDjFkRU
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp Gets a Phone Call & Panics [0:51]
sanderson1611
Published on May 24, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiOdavt6FK4
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Pre-Trib Math Fail (by Sam Gipp) [2:51]
sanderson1611
Published on February 4, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLnWCIgxZlA
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp’s “Anti-Anderson Conference” at Keith Gomez’s church [3:40]
sanderson1611
Published on May 16, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5biTUoNF0A
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp & Treasure Valley Baptist Church [16:03]
sanderson1611
Published on May 11, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hk6Gh1xSHE
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Did Sam Gipp Teach Same Blasphemy in Morning Session? [4:12]
sanderson1611
Published on May 12, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxYN1I4MVHU
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp Teaches “Zombie Apocalypse” [4:42]
sanderson1611
Published on June 6, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4z2M64N94g
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


FULL SERMON – Sam Gipp says that Jesus is NOT his Messiah [1:35:50]
sanderson1611
Published on September 11, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9fdziSjTgk
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Pastor Roger Jimenez Rebukes Sam Gipp [8:17]
sanderson1611
Published on May 11, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-aPCTNkZP8
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp Handled the Word of God Deceitfully [5:27]
sanderson1611
Published on May 21, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTGEHnHD7ec
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp denies that Jesus is our Messiah [0:58]
sanderson1611
Published on September 9, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdXl5rM0nyI
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp Lies More to Cover Up His Blasphemy [1:15]
Steven Anderson
Published on May 12, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByNWErAuoPc
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp Lies about Revelation Chart [2:04]
Steven Anderson
Published on May 12, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVXSgnJj0a8
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp Debunks After the Tribulation – CASE CLOSED! [3:21]
Steven Anderson
Published on May 12, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTXe4bqhhEQ
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp Obsessed with Steven Anderson (Part 1) [7:38]
Steven Anderson
Published on May 15, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arKuouWIyok&t=173s
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp Obsessed with Steven Anderson (Part 2) [3:38]
Steven Anderson
Published on May 16, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zBR1DRZhus
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp & Keith Gomez: ZERO Response to Anderson’s Rebuke [19:59]
Steven Anderson
Published on May 12, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNVKCht4mSM
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp’s Account Tweets Porn – Blames Pastor Anderson [8:05]
The New IFB
Published on December 26, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m0490AXq-8
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp’s Zombie Apocalypse [6:40]
Steven Anderson
Published on May 31, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNtN7fAT7ZE
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp’s Lame Response to Blasphemy Charges [7:03]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on May 12, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avnj5wdtfDk
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp Goes Mega-viral [0:52]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on May 12, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af1lnPtWNnE
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp Teaches Life Begins at Birth (not conception) [1:58]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on May 15, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqeLFKhtPss
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Full Day 3 of Anti-Anderson Conference [1:50:45]
Sam Gipp’s Blasphemy Refuted & Rebuked
Faithful Word Baptist
Published on May 12, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fa-EK9rh3w
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


There are also additional videos attacking Sam Gipp, published by other New IFB members, such as:


Proof Sam Gipp is a PSYCHOPATH!!! [1:10]
KJV soulwinners
Published on May 18, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWEwP5AC4js
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video


Sam Gipp acts like a child when called out [0:51]
KJV innersole
Published on May 17, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kuUwWjg-1A
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video


Todd Ferguson Sam Gipp Phone Conversation 03 February 2019 [14:11]


2. Fellowship Baptist Church in Maryville, Tennessee, Pastor Tom Hatley, website https://three2thrive.org/, accessed on 24 August 2019


Wolf Alert: Dr. William Grady Teaches a Salvation without Jesus [20:28]
Liberty Baptist Church of Rock Falls, IL
Published on Dec 1, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJgiNtfovK4
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Dr. William P. Grady Holy Ground Book Review [8:35]
Stedfast Baptist Church
Published on Nov 24, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3kCsIsAWfw
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Bill Grady Tries to Refute the KJV with Scofield's Notes [2:01]
Liberty Baptist Church of Rock Falls, IL
Published on May 22, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhTSY540au8
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Bill Grady answers a Question I Have Been Asking for the Last Year [6:30]
Liberty Baptist Church of Rock Falls, IL
Published on May 22, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7Bf7LXHH54


My Thoughts on Bill Grady's Book "Holy Ground" [8:35]
Liberty Baptist Church of Rock Falls, IL
Published on Jul 22, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sacqAmV-r8I


Bill Grady the False Prophet [4:49]
Joe Major (Faith Baptist Church)
Published on Dec 12, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSBcV5z6bPQ


Bill Grady Loves Hooters! [0:31]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on May 17, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkmpBiOdY3g


Ruckmanite FairyTales- Bill Grady Edition [1:01:10]
Joe Major (Faith Baptist Church)
Streamed live on May 20, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7oyc7f8v7Y
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Bill Grady Sermon Highlights (Low Points) [3:49]
Steven Anderson
Published on May 16, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3DlGItSma0


Old IFB is running scared of Pastor Anderson & The New IFB [4:49]
Shady Bill Grady strikes again!
The New IFB
Published on May 15, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufvJa4RU6iQ


Panic and madness in the Old IFB (Sam Gipp, Bill Grady & missionaries) [5:03]
File001
Published on Nov 22, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GW7SeDA-hSc


William Grady: OT Salvation by Faith is 'Junk' [0:39]
Ben the Baptist
Published on Dec 23, 2017
Heretic dispensational moron William Grady thinks old testament salvation by faith is the "biggest, dumbest bunch of junk you could ever come up with."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-CK-0Ba4fE


False Teacher Bill Grady is Damned [12:24]
sanderson1611
Published on Dec 3, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BRTLCG3c_M


Ruckmanite Preaching about People on Other Planets [3:56]
sanderson1611
Published on May 18, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzr17PURbxI&t=41s


3. Pastor of Northwest Bible Baptist Church in Elgin, Illinois [https://nwbbc.com/page/Pastor]


Keith Gomez Challenges Pastor Anderson to a FIGHT [3:35]
sanderson1611
Published on May 11, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDnfO-KoFFc


Sam Gipp's "Anti-Anderson Conference" at Keith Gomez's church [3:39]
sanderson1611
Published on May 16, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5biTUoNF0A&t=64s


Pastor Keith Gomez Teaches Hyper Dispensational Lies [4:38]
Faithful Word
Published on May 7, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_b7ZSISgtA


False Shepherds: Sam Gipp and Keith Gomez [5:24]
Sure Foundation Baptist Church
Published on May 12, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAptqmVywZE


Keith Gomez Invitation (talking about Steven Anderson) [2:41]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on May 11, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csoFB-bOfdY


Sam Gipp is Demonic and Evil (hear it for yourself) [10:09]
sanderson1611
Published on May 9, 2017
[Video “exposing” Sam Gipp and Keith Gomez]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQTVLK1xe4Q


Keith Gomez Makes Fun of Himself [2:07]
Stedfast Baptist Church
Published on May 9, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfJRy8VEE8k


Pastor Keith Gomez on Slavery [2:17]
New Ifb
Published on May 19, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKWqY4PdypY


FULL SERMON - Keith Gomez on Slavery (bad sermon) [44:57]
Steven Anderson
Published on May 31, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLM6Yhx6I8s


Keith Gomez's Church = House of Merchandise [49:47]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on May 17, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViVMxXPrOKQ


Keith Gomez preaches Works Salvation at Old Paths Conference [4:21]
Verity Baptist Church Mirror
Published on Aug 26, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWwZGOiDL0U


Sam Gipp & Keith Gomez: ZERO Response to Anderson's Rebuke [19:58]
Steven Anderson
Published on May 12, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNVKCht4mSM&t=25s


Sam Gipp Blasphemy Refuted & Rebuked [12:34]
sanderson1611
Published on May 10, 2017
[Sam Gipp and Keith Gomez “exposed”]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN0VEo7sKZ8


Tommy McMurtry - The Old IFB taken over by Effeminate Sissies (Sam Gipp & Pastor Keith Gomez) [3:57]
The New IFB
Published on Jan 20, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CblrUEgzoNw


"How to Fight False Doctrine in the Last Days" by Pastor Tommy McMurtry 1/20/19 [48:00]
Liberty Baptist Church of Rock Falls, IL
Streamed live on Jan 20, 2019
[Sam Gipp and Keith Gomez are effeminate]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqkamIqbwjc


Pastor Keith Gomez on Slavery (Elgin, IL) [7:03]
sanderson1611
Published on May 29, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-elLfO8I44


4. Husky the Heretic Denies Salvation by Faith Alone [13:43]
Ben the Baptist
Published on Nov 17, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXySqDEMQuk
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Bryan Denlinger vs. Steven L Anderson (husky394xp vs. sanderson1611) [16:34]
sanderson1611
Published on May 29, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE5hMIdeN50


Garrett Weiss Refutes Bryan Denlinger [1:10]
Matt Powell OFFICIAL
Published on May 18, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Um9RIR71YE


Brother Bruce Mejia Responds to Bryan Denlinger [5:04]
The New IFB
Published on Jan 1, 2019
Brother Bruce Mejia of Faithful Word Baptist Church Los Angeles responds to Bryan Denlinger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-Hdw_qqo6U


Bryan Denlinger is So Vain! Haha husky394xp [2:23]
sanderson1769 mirror
Published on Jul 3, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK5u9lD83V4


Bryan Denlinger (husky394xp) Exposed [2:56]
The New IFB
Published on Nov 12, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S93aNVztSa4


Coming after Dungliner in the Millenial Reign [0:44]
Fwbc La
Published on Feb 6, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIXtQZvu2-M


RESPONSE TO BRYAN DUNG-LINGER (whiner, hen-pecked, dispensationalist) [5:04]
Fwbc La
Published on Dec 27, 2018
Bryan Denlinger AKA musty247xp attempting to do damage control over the film coming out this Monday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVsPgeWsu3o


What GOOGLE thinks of Bryan DUNG-linger (Husky394xp) [0:20]
Fwbc La
Published on Dec 28, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLKRF1WggxM


Bryan Denlinger’s madness on the ‘Romero-Fannin’ Controversy (Anarchy) [5:27]
Guzman 1611
Published on Jan 6, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iObGaUV4ZY


5. Garrett Kirchway Fired from FWBC [0:58]
sanderson1611
Published on May 28, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ9toArU-RI
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video


Pastor Anderson kicks out Garrett Kirchway & Dominique Davis for Modalism, FWBC 5/27/18 [8:04]
The New IFB
Published on May 27, 2018
Pastor Anderson will not tolerate people siding with the Modalists no matter who they are! Neither will he tolerate some guy trying to take over the service. Watch as Pastor Anderson rules as the man of God at FWBC.
The New IFB channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF5lxE7W-P-oRFPU1171B-g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjOlTxb6Pxg
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video


Garrett Kirchway Bogus Soul-winning
Steven Anderson
Published on Jun 10, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8wxd4qIhvo


I'm not Garrett Kirchway, I get people saved
Fwbc La
Published on Jun 27, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djz7AQl-ADU


Garrett Kirchway Exposed by Pastor Steven Anderson (7/29/18 Church Service)
The New IFB
Published on Jul 29, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmIShOcPWpQ


6. Rebuking Tyler Doka & Joey Faust's Damnable Heresy [2:43]
sanderson1611
Published on Sep 4, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qlzyx83sq4
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video


Pastor Steven Anderson Endorses Awesome Website Made By Pastor Tyler Doka [4:32]
Tylah Baker
Published on Jun 6, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4uomqazziw&feature=youtu.be
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video


Fake and Self Willed Pastors | Tyler Doka
Pure Words Baptist Church
Published on Aug 23, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuxL4EiUz9A


Dealing with Tyler Doka and Justin Leblanc's Lies
Matt Powell
Published on Sep 4, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdNVBup31kw


Tyler Doka Exposed by Brother Bruce Mejia
The New IFB
Published on Sep 6, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we2bEFYLA7E


Tyler Doka the unqualified FOOL
Fwbc La
Published on Sep 5, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POGB8B25wiM


7. Response to Pastor Steven Anderson (Part 2) - My Experience at Faithful Word Baptist Church [1:26:01]
The Church in Liverpool
Published on Aug 1, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1amjz3lmOCU&feature=youtu.be
Listen at 52:20 ...


Answering Victor Tey's Questions About the Trinity
Liberty Baptist Church of Rock Falls, IL
Streamed live on Jun 20, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVaRk16v6Zk


Victor Tey (the church in Liverpool)
PILLAR BAPTIST CHURCH
Published on Jul 10, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ANDKTsxAlQ


Jimenez Launches Attack at Victor Tey, Despite Same Trinity Doctrine
Timotheus
Published on Jun 23, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxKtGrUT2gI


Victor Tey Exposed
The New IFB
Published on Jul 12, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEJqf5rK1ls


Victor Tey and His False Doctrine
Modalist Watchman
Published on May 29, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVohdL7JRZ4


Pastor Anderson Preaching Against Tyler Baker, Victor Tey and Garrett Kirchway
Modalist Watchman
Published on May 30, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOlDIfxpBQo


Victor Tey and His Jesus Only Baptism (The Church in Liverpool)
PILLAR BAPTIST CHURCH
Published on Mar 2, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzbnx07wdEE


8. Rick Martinez Slips Up
The New IFB
Published on Jul 1, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGADSeYkjWs


Reprobate Rick Digs Himself In Deeper
Steven Anderson
Published on Jun 30, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_uDqZ_1t9Y&t=12s


PROOF | Russell Bopst is a lying RAILER against Pastor Steven Anderson
Pure Words Baptist Church
Published on Oct 1, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y_R3eRYdOo


Russell Bopst can't stop LYING like his "Pastor".
Pure Words Baptist Church
Published on Oct 3, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNATK-4VQnY


Domonique Davis Exposed
The New IFB
Published on Jul 8, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re6DtBwtlR4


Domonique Davis' Psalm 2 Interpretation Debunked
The New IFB
Published on Jun 15, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVlzo654270


Explaining Domonique Davis - Steven Anderson
New IFB Army
Published on Aug 17, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiwV4KA7Hpk


Gleb Glebov and Bill MacGregor are Unqualified buffoons
Sure Foundation Baptist Church
Published on May 10, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvLhtlsFl3I




9. "Beware Of Tyler Baker's Cult" Terminated Deacon Of FWBC [13:17]
sanderson1611
Published on Jul 20, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxCNU_Vhda8
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video


Garrett Kirchway on Tyler Baker's Work Performance [1:40]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on May 30, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=jHsYR1DY4Ls&feature=youtu.be
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Tyler Baker's Timesheets - Read 'em & weep! [31:36]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on May 30, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RefDM8gjfo
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Angry Steven Anderson vs Tyler Baker - Pastor Berates Understudy While Wife in Labor
Banned From THE NEW IFB [6:01]
52 views2 days ago
Pastor Steven Anderson fires and berates his protégé Tyler Baker while Baker's wife is in labor. Interestingly, Pastor Steven ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaHyA5Ij2ko
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Pastor Manly Perry Takes Out the Trash [2:51]
sanderson1611
Published on Oct 23, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD6g8IzrBE4&feature=youtu.be
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Tyler Baker Fired from FWBC [29:11]
sanderson1611
Published on Jun 20, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqUgXQTp1Qo
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Oneness Heresy from Tyler Baker's Own Mouth (a.k.a. Modalism) [3:57]
sanderson1611
Published on Jun 22, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvHEx107KFw


Don't Get Discouraged about Tyler Baker Being Exposed [4:08]
sanderson1611
Published on Jun 25, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQeKmIsUQZw


Tyler Baker Mocks the Father Sending the Son to Die for Us [8:44]
sanderson1611
Published on May 5, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcg9fs71Gtg


Documentary - Tyler Baker the Oneness Heretic [1:20:23]
Faithful Word
Published on Jan 27, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-ukNLMwzak


Tyler Baker Promises… [0:29]
Stedfast Baptist Church
Published on Feb 22, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHQckr3cPg4


Tyler Baker: the Coward (Valiant Baptist Church) [7:19]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on May 16, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8ePZrCZBro


Pray for Tyler Baker [2:29]
Fwbc La
Published on Mar 6, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KioFFqfbWUg


Bro Graham Arpen's view on Tyler Baker the person! [32:34]
Stedfast Baptist Church
Published on Feb 22, 2018
Bro Grahams take on the character of Tyler Baker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLniilORpfE


Tyler Baker & His Oneness Baptism [1:50]
sanderson1611
Published on Feb 20, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHY8MpV0piU


Tyler Baker Oneness Doctrines Refuted (Nestorianism, Incarnational Sonship) [18:10]
Ben the Baptist
Published on Sep 30, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esmk_Z-BQ8w


Tyler Baker Closet Oneness Coward! [24:49]
Stedfast Baptist Church
Published on Oct 25, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0M2bV6OQb8


Tyler Baker Admits to Being Adonijah [3:21]
sanderson1611
Published on Feb 23, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNhfgNh3KAA


Tyler Baker and Co Unlawfully Restrict Open Breastfeeding [5:06]
Stedfast Baptist Church
Published on Jan 28, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elRdNd6QIPg&t=3s


Tyler Baker Drunk/Stoned? [0:50]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on May 24, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPFWemfWq38


“Their Folly Shall Be Manifest” (Tyler Doka, Tyler Baker Update) [1:12:51]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Streamed live on Sep 23, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP5XaFH6RuQ


Tyler Baker says the Trinity is "Heresy" and "Doctrine of Devils" [0:28]
Steven Anderson
Published on Apr 17, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYZ3agbv7d4


Tyler Baker's Latest Strange New Doctrine [12:47]
The New IFB
Published on May 10, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKSNr1SnvKY


Hebrews 7 - Eternal Son of God (Melchizedek) | Tyler Baker is an Idiot [11:29]
Jonathan Shelley
GodResource
Published on Jun 20, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok78meluVuM


Tyler Baker Confronted about Printer [2:33]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on May 30, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbiBAF0IV3M


Pastor Roger Jimenez Calls out Tyler Baker [13:06]
The New IFB
Published on Mar 28, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z40EXO3KOvA


Pastor Anderson confronts Tyler Baker on Oneness Heresy [3:33]
Kragen Clan dotcom
Published on Oct 26, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyIrVpoxS1M
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Tyler Baker Exposed (Ordained by Mommy & Daddy says Pastor Steven Anderson) [2:20]
The New IFB
Published on Jul 16, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BOgQK6vA64
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Tyler Baker Can't Stop Lying | Valiant Bapticostal Oneness (Nonfundamental) [1:01]
GodResource (Jonathan Shelley)
Published on Mar 4, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC_CMPpjT5U


Oneness Attacks on the Trinity - Tyler Baker, Rick Martinez, and Elliott Ray [24:31]
Discerner of Spirits
Published on Feb 21, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDXOwbOLpt8


Tyler Baker Documentary with Jeff Utzler Intro [1:31:26]
* Jake12399
Published on Feb 11, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeyynQTHSko


Tyler Baker calls New IFB a movement of hate / Baker vs Steven Anderson (Part 1) [1:16]
The New IFB
Published on Feb 28, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE8q6XX08eQ


Porky The Pig (Tyler baker) [0:33]
msanchez1611
Published on Feb 22, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsarqBru7sI


Tyler Baker's Reprobate Mind [0:24]
Dylan KJV
Published on Nov 29, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP_hbRM1RIs


Tyler Baker & Friends believe in Pentecostal Oneness [15:31]
Findantruth
Published on Mar 9, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiPt2dKWv5k


Tyler "The Trashman" Baker (Pastor Steven Anderson – Adonijah) [3:00]
The New IFB
Published on Oct 26, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU5vDf2PQOE


Thoughts on Tyler Baker & Adam Fannin Jeff W/KJVSOULWINNERS [4:08]
Stedfast Baptist Church
Published on Jun 23, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTu5XRzJEkE


Deceived by Tyler Baker Hindsight is 2020 [39:42]
Stedfast Baptist Church
Published on Feb 26, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pQBGoW0WDk


Pastor Joe Major: Modalist are not saved! Garrett Kirchway, Tyler Baker, Dominique Davis [1:02]
[Watch as Joe Major reinforces the Trinity declaring these modalists devils from the beginning who infiltrated as wolves in sheeps ...]
The New IFB
Published on May 31, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOx7LpL07ao


Tyler Baker's Invisible Jesus Doctrine [7:21]
sanderson1611
Published on Jun 4, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3uZYrghfmA


Hard Evidence of Tyler Baker Employee Theft [13:20]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on May 30, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uInMJaWh1LI


Tyler Baker Proves His Own Theft [3:48]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on May 30, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFc9AgfZaT0


Is Tyler Baker a Jehovah's Witness? Pastor Steven Anderson [2:01]
Dr. Spurgel made another appearance, this time to rip face on Tyler Bakers invisible Jesus doctrine. Maybe the disgraced deacon is a closet Jehovah's Witness?
The New IFB
Published on Jun 4, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkjZqC5-kMQ


Tyler Baker, the Wolf – Donnie Romero [14:08]
New Ifb
Published on Aug 7, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCubQ6LVoDI


Tyler Baker Deceiver & Wolf - Bro Joe [20:31]
Stedfast Baptist Church
Published on Feb 26, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOcFm-w8CpQ


Tyler Baker Caught On Camera Lying To Pastor Anderson [24:49]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on Oct 26, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KceoJhevhGw


Watch: Sissy Tyler Baker Cowers Like Wimpy Puppy [5:00]
My thoughts on soy boy Tyler Baker cowering like a wimp before Pastor Anderson when he's caught teaching damnable heresy ...
Ben the Baptist
Published on Oct 26, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GglFiMjOlk
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Tyler Baker - The Epitome of Manhood (Calls Every Pastor in the New IFB a Girl) [4:31]
Verity Baptist Church
Published on Sep 27, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmedysDvmt4


Tyler Baker Melting Down [9:09]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on Nov 12, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fzTUHl73vY&t=192s


COMING SOON: Proof Tyler Baker is not saved!!!! [0:38]
KJV soulwinners
Published on November 2018
[Removed from YouTube]


Tyler Baker: cowardly, cry baby version of a modern day Adonijah the trash collector [19:00]
Stedfast Baptist Church
Published on Oct 25, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24jE9Qykjz8


Tyler Baker Lied TO Me - Peter James [20:14]
Stedfast Baptist Church
Published on Feb 26, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmmNFcaif2A


Tyler Baker's Weird Teaching On Skirts in the Bible Exposed [13:54]
Stedfast Baptist Church
Published on Jan 29, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRR1ZbLGm0o


Tyler Baker Documentary is FINISHED!!! [3:31]
KJV soulwinners
Published on January 27, 2019
[Removed from YouTube]


Doctrinal Dissertation on Oneness/Modalism | A Case Study on Tyler Baker and Valiant Baptist Church [1:20:23]
KJV soulwinners
Published on Jan 26, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHvLVa5zhXo


Tyler Baker teaches Islamic Blasphemy [1:38]
Liberty Baptist Church of Rock Falls, IL
Published on Jan 27, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s1aiPkxAio
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10. Adam Fannin Interview #1, 30 January 2019
Adam Fannin Interview #2, 09 February 2019
Adam Fannin Interview #3, 24 June 2019
Adam Fannin Interview #4, 26 June 2019
Adam Fannin Interview #5, 16 July 2019
Ben Naim Interview, 23 February 2019
Donnie Romero Interview, 26 June 2019
Elliott Ray Interview 12 February 2019
Interview with “Anonymous #1” former member of Stedfast Baptist Church Jacksonville, 26 June 2019
Interview with “Anonymous #2” former member of Stedfast Baptist Church Fort Worth 19 July 2019
Interview with “Anonymous #3” former member of Stedfast Baptist Church Fort Worth 25 July 2019
Jonathan Shelley Interview, 23 February 2019
Manly Perry Interview, 03 February 2019
Steven Anderson Interview, 09 March 2019
Steven Harper Interview #1, 10 February 2019
Steven Harper Interview #2, 18 July 2019
Steven Harper Interview #3, 19 July 2019
“Implied Assertion” definition, Quimbee Law Database
https://www.quimbee.com/keyterms/implied-assertion


Steven Anderson Uncensored Episode 3 [2:33:08]
Anselm Urban
Published on Jun 9, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6IA3sJ6YHk
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Casinos and Gambling are Wicked! [1:29]
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Why I Love the New IFB & Stedfast JAX [27:00]
With Adam Fannin
Adam Fannin responds to the resignation of Donnie Romero
Stedfast Jacksonville
Published on Jan 5, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqX6VWLEfsI&feature=youtu.be
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video.


Who is STEDFAST? [7:02]
With Adam Fannin
Adam Fannin makes a statement, indicating that he is preparing to make a stand against Stedfast Ft.
Worth and Steven Anderson
Stedfast Jacksonville
Published on Jan 6, 2019 [@ approx. 8am Eastern Time]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQY--6Ykd1w
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Stedfast JAX Waiting for a Better Option [00:00:37]
With Adam Fannin
Adam Fannin stands with the majority of Stedfast Jacksonville families and says no to Jonathan
Shelley as their pastor, essentially saying he's not leaving!
Stedfast Jacksonville
Premiered 6 hours ago [Jan 6, 2019 @ approx.1pm Eastern Time]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpRJec5n96Y
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THE NEW IFB MAFIA [8:58]
With Adam Fannin
Independent Fundamental
Premiered 12 hours ago [@ approx 1am Eastern Time 8 Jan 2019]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQo-FgjJ4lU&feature=youtu.be
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Statement on Stedfast Jacksonville Events [14:20]
With Adam Fannin
Independent Fundamental
Published on Jan 9, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OZEqZn8v2U
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I’m sorry for the sins I’ve committed and the people I’ve hurt [8:42]
With Donnie Romero
faithaloneromero
Published on Jan 9, 2019
Thank you to all the people that have been a help and an encouragement to my wife. I don’t want this video to be a hindrance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf_ZQNgXexQ&feature=youtu.be
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Drive Furiously or Let Her Drive [45:19]
With Adam Fannin
Adam Fannin's Sunday Morning Service
Stedfast Jacksonville
Streamed live Jan 6, 2019 [@ approx. 10:30am Eastern Time]
Streamed live 9 hours ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHxOT1pAmDA
Audio MP3 has been downloaded for this video.


Confirming Disciples - Teaching Doctrine to New Believers [1:09:11]
With Adam Fannin
Adam Fannin's Sunday Night Service
Stedfast Jacksonville
Premiered Jan 6, 2019 @ approx.7pm Eastern Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSAi3RfBDKI
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Anti-Adam Fannin Videos:
Adam Fannin Against Sarah Silverman,
Adam Fannin & Stedfast Jacksonville Rebellion
Adam Fannin & The People in Jacksonville are Wicked!
Adam Fannin Changed the Word of God!,
Adam Fannin Demonstrates Covered Feeding
Adam Fannin Exposed
Adam Fannin finally ordains himself as Pastor!,
Adam Fannin is so loving, so godly. (Pastor Steven Anderson),
Adam Fannin is worse than Donnie Romero – Son of Belial says Pastor Steven Anderson
Adam Fannin Lies,
Adam Fannin Lies Again!
Adam Fannin's Blasphemous Image,
Adam Fannin’s Church Has No Biblical Authority,
Adam Fannin Stedfast Jax Rebellion,
Adam Fannin’s Weird Proverbs 5 Interpretation
Adam Fannin the Heady False Prophet,
Adam Fannin Was Destroyed By Pride,
A Message to Adam Fannin,
As a Dog Returneth to His Vomit,
ATTN: Stedfast Jacksonville Rebellion
Audit of Financial Records in Jacksonville Complete,
BAD BOYS
Bastard Fannin’s “New Spirit”
Be Content – Bro Ken Smith
Ben the Baptist w/ Pastor Shelley, Jeff Utzler, Stedfast Leadership
Be Ye Stedfast - Pastor Jonathan Shelley,
BOMBSHELL: Stedfast Jax Audit Complete!
“Church Planting” Pastor Jonathan Shelley
Church Website Now Shrine to Adam Fannin
Congregational Ordination is Not an Ordination
Decently and In Order (Church Planting and Ordinations) by Pastor Tommy McMurtry 9119
Dirty Donnie Romero Exposed by Pastor Manly Perry
Donnie Romero Admits That Adam Fannin Did Not Embezzle Money
Donnie Romero Exposes Steven Anderson Lies About Adam Fannin New IFB Baptist Bad Pastors
Donnie Romero Says Brother Fannin Had Nothing To Do With Any Of This
Doubletalk from Adam Fannin
Fannin Fired and Romero Hypocrisy
Fannin Followers: Your Trash Can Awaits
Fear Thou NOT
Flatterer Fannin Flattered His Flattering Follower
Floundering Fannin – Statement on Stedfast Jacksonville Events
Hosea 7 (Liars, thieves, and silly doves)
How to Respond to an Evil Report
I am STEDFAST,
I Must Be About My Father’s Business – Bro. Marcel
Info about Donnie Romero’s sins by Pastor Steven Anderson
I Stand with Stedfast Jax and the Truth
I Will Have NO FELLOWSHIP With Law of Liberty Cult Members
Jonathan Shelley did better than I could do says Pastor Steven Anderson,
Jonathan Shelley: Stedfast Jacksonville & Adam Fannin
Judah or Judas?
Law of Liberty Baptist Church is A Joke
Lazy Fannin Bare-Minimum Soul Winner,
Let’s Go Soulwinning! Pure Words Baptist Church-Stedfast Baptist Church
LOL Baptist Church
LOLBC Clowns Ordain Adam Fannin
Make Not Provision for the Flesh – Pastor Jason Robinson
Mothering Moment #4: Breastfeeding & Modesty
My Thoughts on What is Happening with Stedfast Baptist Church
My wife knew Adam Fannin was no good from day one says Pastor Steven Anderson,
New IFB Week in Review w/ Pastors Steven Anderson, Jonathan Shelley, Aaron Thompson [Jan 14, 2019]
Ordination of Jonathan Shelley at Stedfast Baptist Church,
Ordination Truths
Pastor Anderson Responds to Adam Fannin
Pastor Anderson Update on Stedfast Baptist Church
Pastor Donnie Romero of Stedfast Baptist Church Absolves Adam Fannin of Wrongdoing in Church Scandal
Pastor Donnie Romero Steps Down from Stedfast Baptist Church
Pastor Jonathan Shelley Addresses Stedfast Jacksonville
Pastor Jonathan Shelley Offers Help to Stedfast Baptist Church
Pastor Jonathan Shelley Rebukes Adam Fannin
Pastor McMurtry Rips Law of Liberty Fake Church (Adam Fannin and Jake Strickland EXPOSED)
Pastor Shelley – Mark Those in the Photo – Stedfast Jacksonville Rebellion/Adam Fannin
Pastor Shelley’s Message to Saran Silverman
Pastor Steven Anderson: The Latest in Adam Fannin
Profile of Donnie Romero & Adam Fannin
Railing – Pastor Jonathan Shelley
Resignation of Pastor Romero
Sarah Silverman Jonathan Shelley rides Adam Fannins coattails
Satan Hath Desired to Have You
Sermon Ideas for Adam Fannin
"Sheba the Son of Bichri" (Adam Fannin Exposed),
Serving the LORD With All Humility of Mind - Bro. Marcel,
Split in Jacksonville is Necessary,
Statement on Stedfast Jacksonville Events
Stealing? Audit of Financial Records in Jacksonville – Pastor Steven Anderson/Adam Fannin
Stedfast Baptist Church Backs Pastor Jonathan Shelley!
Stedfast Baptist Church Jacksonville – Adam Fannin
Stedfast Baptist Church Jacksonville – Returning to Jerusalem,
Stedfast Baptist Church Update
Stedfast Baptist Jacksonville - Let's rebuild!,
Stedfast Baptist JAX Church Split,
Stedfast in Fort Worth of One Accord: We Are Behind Pastor Shelley!
Stedfast Jacksonville Supports Pastor Jonathan Shelley!
Stedfast Jax: A New Era,
Stedfast Jax Reacts to Fannin Firing,
Stedfast Jax Rebellion,
Stedfast Jax: You want back in? Make a video and beg for it says Pastor Steven Anderson,
Stedfast Jax vs Stedfast Jacksonville (Donnie Romero, Adam Fannin)
Take the money and run! (Adam Fannin, Donnie Romero Exposed by Pastor Steven Anderson),
T.D. Jakes Supports Shelley on Jacksonville Church Split
Them That Sin Rebuke Before All – Pastor Manly Perry
The Fall of Donnie Romero
The Righteous Remnant at Stedfast
The Root of All Evil
The Stedfast Jacksonville Split,
The Week in Review 1/29 | Pastors Jonathan Shelley, Joe Major, Steven Anderson and Others [Jan 29, 2019]
Thou Are Inexcusable
Thoughts on Tyler Baker & Adam Fannin Jeff W/KJVSOULWINNERS,
Tried With Fire
Tyler Baker and Co Unlawfully Restrict Open Breastfeeding
Update on Stedfast Baptist Church (Texas/Florida)
URGENT: Beware of Adam Fannin,
We Are Stedfast and FREE!!!!
"What a Time to be Alive" | Pastor Jonathan Shelley,
What if Adam Fannin was NOT fired?
“Who Told Thee That Thou Wast Naked?” by Jonathan Shelley
Why We Kept Our Church Alive
Week in Review: Pastor Jonathan Shelley, Bo Ballard, Theo Matthews, "Jacksonville" Joe, Bro. Eli [Jan 22, 2019]
Weird Crap Preached by Adam Fannin

There are numerous videos posted on YouTube showing Anderson screaming at congregants and visitors. Mocking them, taunting them, harassing them, belittling them, intimidating them, and so forth. In the case of one now former member of Anderson’s church by the name of Kris Byrne, all it took was discussing Anderson’s reprobate doctrine without Anderson’s knowledge (or presumably his permission). Some of the conversation took place via text message, wherein Kris stated he did not believe homosexuals were reprobate, and that Anderson was tampering with the gospel when he said they were not eligible for salvation.19 Anderson eventually gained access to the text messages, and to say he came unhinged would be an understatement.
What happened next was simply unbelievable. On June 26, 2016, Anderson stopped Kris in the parking lot of the church. Kris relates that Anderson came quick walking up to him in an aggressive manner, getting in Kris’s face and angrily saying, “I heard you’re talking crap about me behind my back,” much like a high school kid trying to pick a fight. Anderson went on saying, “look, you have two options. One, you turn around, you leave, and you never come back; or, you can come in and I’m going to confront you in front of the congregation.” The members view of the situation was that he had done nothing worthy of being kicked out of the church, and although Anderson was not being biblical in his dealing with church discipline, the member was willing to go before the church and let them decide. So Kris, his wife, and their four small children entered the church and took their seats. Little did Kris realize what Anderson had in mind.
After the church announcements had been read, and some hymns sung, Anderson entered the pulpit and immediately turned his sights on Kris, and it was not to bring the issue before the church as Kris thought. Instead, Anderson began to vilify Kris in front of not just the congregation, but in front of his wife and children as well. Anderson began to lie to his congregation by falsely accuse Kris of things Kris did not do, attempting to paint Kris as an intentional trouble maker who has been harassing other church members, and trying to divide the church. But no one had accused Kris of these things. They came completely out of Anderson’s imagination.20
Anderson begins yelling at Kris, and soon jumps up on a chair in the midst of the congregation and making derogatory remarks, calling Kris a coward, a Judas, an idiot, demanding Kris leave the church immediately, and actually ordering the men of the church to “pick him up and take him out!” At one point Anderson calms down his rhetoric for one brief moment and asks Kris to explain himself. But as soon as Kris begins, the moment passes and Anderson renewed his verbal abuse and accuses him of trying to take over the service.
With Anderson screaming and yelling at Kris, at his family, at his children, and with Kris’s children understandably upset and crying, Anderson attempts to make it appear as if Kris is resisting, and he again orders the men of the church to physically pick them up and remove them from the church. No sooner than he gave these orders, several men approach Kris and are ready to physically assault him on Anderson’s orders. Kris and his family, however, get up and leave the church. At this point, a visitor to Anderson’s church who is clearly upset at the proceedings, attempts to stand up for Kris. Upon doing so, however, Anderson turned on him as well, and kicks him out of the church as well while verbally abusing him too.
And even after Kris and his family have left, Anderson continues to rail about him, continues to make false accusations about him, etc. He goes on to encourage the congregation to come to him and tell him anytime they hear of anyone from the church talking about Anderson. Anderson’s version of, “if you hear something, say something.”21
Anderson’s obvious purpose for continuing his tirade against Kris and his family even after they left was to get the congregation worked up and turned against Kris and his family. This is what Anderson does. This is his modus operandi, his method of operation in dealing with those who cross him, whether in reality or just only in his own imagination. Here are just four more examples, out of many more similar cases..

While attending Steven Anderson’s Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, Arizona, Alyssa Farlow was introduced to Nathan Carone, a long-time friend of both Steven Anderson and Donnie Romero. Alyssa and Nathan became friends and eventually began dating. Everything was fine until they decided to get married. It was at that point that both Anderson and Romero began a campaign of hate designed to break the couple up.
Anderson could not sanction their marriage because Alyssa had been previously married. According to Alyssa her previous husband entered into an adulterous relationship with another woman, and divorced Alyssa to be with that woman. Although Scripture tells us that God hates divorce (Malachi 2:16), there are instances where God allows divorce, such as instances of sexual immorality (Matthew 5:31-32; 19:9), and in cases such as Alyssa described:
“13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. 15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.” (1 Corinthians 7:13-15)
When the unbelieving husband (such as Alyssa’s first husband) leaves the marriage (as he did), the wife (Alyssa) is to allow them to leave and she is no longer bound to her marriage. She is released, and free to remarry. But Anderson and Romero placed their own marriage restrictions over and above God’s word, and forbade Alyssa and Nathan’s marriage, and actively worked to prevent it. This demonstrates Anderson’s Pharisaical nature.
Amazingly, Anderson went so far as to call the Carone’s marriage adulterous, a crime for which Anderson believes there should be public executions. When one looks at Anderson’s own family, however, his gross hypocrisy quickly becomes apparent. For Anderson’s own parents divorced, and they both remarried. Yet does Anderson publicly condemn them? No. Does he call for their public execution? Of course not. Contrary to his publicly stated beliefs, he gives his parents a pass. He has excused their actual adultery, while condemning what he subjectively defines as adultery in the case of the Carone’s.
According to Alyssa, Steven Anderson and his followers began making disparaging remarks, and dragging their names through the mud, in an attempt to discredit them. Donnie Romero began calling them names, calling Alyssa, “Jezebel,” comparing her to the biblical Jezebel, a dangerously wicked seductress. He went on to refer to her children as illegitimate “bastards,” telling her he could not see how Nathan could be attracted to her, condemning her because she wears make-up, and both Anderson and Romero pulling out all the stops in trying to convince Nathan to stop seeing her.
When Alyssa and Nathan ignored Anderson and Romero and were married in spite of them, Anderson and Romero shunned them both.

The “Edwards Family” mentioned in “The Ashley and Kelley Case” above is actually David and Helen Edwards and their then 12-year old daughter Iris. The problems for the Edwards family began when Steven Anderson started preaching his bare breasts doctrine to his congregation, telling them it was not only permissible for nursing mothers to bare their breasts during worship services, but also telling them not to cover themselves with a receiving blanket, nursing cover, or anything else lest they cause developmental or emotional damage to their babies.
Apparently some of the women of Anderson’s Faithful Word church were swayed by Anderson’s teaching as they began to openly nurse their babies with their breast(s) uncovered. Helen Edwards was naturally upset at this, as she did not want her family, particularly her 12-year old daughter, exposed to such a thing. When she spoke out about it on her personal blog (which Anderson had monitored), she was retaliated against. When David Edwards defended his wife, he too, and soon their daughter Iris as well, became the target of retaliation by Anderson’s congregation.
Not the entire congregation, although after running them out of the church Anderson made sure he had the congregation turned against them, and they were completely shunned and treated horribly.
Initially, Helen’s personal blog was hacked (just as Ashley and Kelley’s blogs were – see above), with several terrible blog posts and comments being posted on it. Then David’s blog was attacked, and finally a completely fake blog was created in Iris’s name, where the hacker posted several blog posts while pretending to be Iris herself.
David Edwards’ blog post below demonstrates the desperation the family was experiencing due to the harassment they were experiencing at the hands of Faithful Word Baptist Church.

Ashley responded in a positive manner to David Edwards, offering her support:

This, of course, placed Ashley and Kelley in directly in Faithful Word’s sights, and they too became the target of the church’s campaign of harassment (see the “Ashley and Kelley Case” above). Soon, the hacker began posting on David Edwards’ blog, pretending to be his daughter Iris:

This was followed by another comment, posted anonymously (likely the hacker, but possibly another Faithful Word member):

Please note there is no compassion, no attempt at either exhortation or reconciliation, no love or loving kindness of any kind. Just a “you deserve what you get” attitude. It was at this same time that the hacker started to harass 12-year old Iris by creating a fake blog under her name, and pretending to be her. Here are a few of the posts this person or persons made while pretending to be Iris:

That anyone, much less grown adults, attack and bully a young girl as these fine folks at Steven Anderson’s church did is simply beyond the pale. It is simply outrageous behavior on their part. As with the previous cases mentioned above, this too demonstrates the true nature of Steven Anderson and the New IFB.

In 2018, Steven Anderson, for some reason, decided to go after Pastor Jeff Durbin of Apologia Church in Tempe, Arizona. While the reasons behind Anderson attacks on Pastor Durbin are unknown, it is likely they come from Durbin’s association with Dr. James White, someone who has publicly taken Anderson to task for his false teaching. As is normal for Anderson when someone calls him out as a result of his false teaching, Anderson immediately attacks both them, and their family, and their associates, via YouTube videos wherein Anderson will pull out all the stops in his attacks. This includes tossing the truth in the trash when it conflicts with Anderson preconceived ideas about a person. His attacks on Pastor Durbin are no exception.
To give a brief and necessary background on this subject, prior to the incident we are about to look at, Steven Anderson had already publicly attacked and slandered not only Pastor Durbin (calling him a drunk), but also his wife (calling her a drunk as well), and his church (calling it a flop, in spite of its ten year – at the time – history, and its remarkable growth). With that being said, Steven Anderson next sought out Pastor Durbin, finally engaging with him in a Facebook conversation. A conversation, I might add, that Anderson himself copied and pasted in its entirety in a blog post on Anderson’s own personal blog.
In his conversation with Pastor Durbin, Anderson begins by stating what is ostensibly his purpose in contacting Durbin. Anderson writes, “I just wanted to ask you about your discharge from the Marine Corps. I wanted to give you a chance to give your side. Apparently you were discharged for homosexuality?” Notice Anderson does not actually ask a question here, but rather presents a statement.
Pastor Durbin then responded to Anderson’s statement in a lengthy, but not overly so, response, which he breaks down into three sections. First, pastor Durbin reminds Anderson that bearing false witness is a sin. This is a response to Anderson’s previous attacks against Durbin, his wife, and his church as noted above. Second, Pastor Durbin responds to Anderson’s statement that he was “apparently...discharged for homosexuality.” Durbin’s response is that he has never been a homosexual. This response answers Anderson’s statement very specifically. Third, although he is under no obligation to do so, Pastor Durbin explains the actual circumstances surrounding his discharge.
Steven Anderson, however, soon begins to show his true colors, and the actual reason for contacting Pastor Durbin as he ignores everything Durbin has told him, and begins to badger him relentlessly. He asks Durbin six times, specifically, if he was discharged from the Marine Corps for telling his drill instructor he was a homosexual. Anderson goes on an additional three times where he states this to be a fact rather than a question. Anderson is obviously not interested in the truth here, but rather, he is only interested in manipulating Durbin into a “gotcha” moment that will support the conclusion Anderson had settled on before he even engaged Durbin in conversation. Even after Pastor Durbin tells him a second time, again specifically, that he was not discharged for telling his drill instructor that he was a homosexual, Anderson goes on to ask him an additional three times, and states it as a fact twice more in addition to this.
Jeff Durbin’s patience during this conversation is both remarkable and evidence of his Holy Spirit born humility. Anderson, on the other hand, is relentlessly obsessed (if not demonically possessed) in his badgering of Pastor Durbin. Anderson then ends the conversation with yet more false witness when he accuses Pastor Durbin of engaging in a “scam.” Steven Anderson isn’t done, however. Not by a long shot. Soon after his Facebook attack on Jeff Durbin, Anderson presented a sermon to his congregation regarding demon possessed preachers, wherein he attempts to prove (although he fails miserably) that Jeff Durbin is demon possessed. Talk about irrationally obsessed! So obsessed that during this fifty-eight minute sermon Anderson devotes an entire thirteen and a half minutes to Pastor Durbins alleged homosexuality and discharge from the Marine Corps.
Anderson begins his rant (rant is really the only word that can describe this) by stating as fact that, “Jeff Durbin joined the United States Marine Corps, and then told his drill instructor that he was a homosexual. Jeff Durbin told his drill instructor in the U.S. Marine Corps that he was a homosexual, and he was discharged a couple weeks later.” Anderson goes on, saying, “Now I confronted him about this. … I finally got hold of him on Facebook, and I confronted him about this thing of him telling his drill instructor that he was a homosexual and being discharged from the military and basically he wrote me this super long wall of text just snowing me with all this irrelevant information.” As we’ve already seen, this is a bald faced lie. Nothing in Pastor Durbin’s response was irrelevant, in fact, he specifically answered Anderson’s claim that he was discharged for being a homosexual, by stating very clearly that he had never been a homosexual.
Anderson then goes on to tell his congregation, “Hey, I had two witnesses. I got this out of the mouth of two first hand witnesses, and was given documentation of it!” Again, this is demonstrably a lie. Given Anderson’s track record, if he actually had two first hand witnesses to Durbin’s discharge he would have trotted them out long before this. To date, he has failed to produce any evidence of the existence of these so-called witnesses. Additionally, why would he even accept as true anyone’s claim that Pastor Durbin was discharged for homosexuality, especially without knowing these so-called witnesses? And lastly, Anderson claims he was given documentation of Pastor Durbin being discharged for homosexuality. Again, this is not only a lie, but it is impossible. The only documentation that would be available to Steven Anderson regarding Jeff Durbin’s military service would be his DD form 214; which, by the way, is available on the internet, and it says nothing other than he was discharged fourteen days after he started in the Marines. That’s it. And given there are any number of legitimate reasons for this happening, not the least of which is the reason Pastor Durbin gave to Steven Anderson, there is no way to truthfully say that Durbin’s DD-214 documents he was discharged for being a homosexual.
Anderson goes on, “but it’s funny in this giant wall of text he never one time did he deny tel..so then I just said, ‘look, it’s a simple question, are you denying telling the drill instructor that you’re a homosexual?’ ‘well, I’m not gonna answer any more questions, and blah, blah, blah.’ I asked him like five times and he won’t answer, he never will deny it, because it’s true.” Except that this is yet another lie Steven Anderson has told his congregation, as Durbin has already specifically told Anderson that he was not discharged for being a homosexual. Twice. But the truth does not matter to Steven Anderson, and he proves this by then saying, “this is the story, and it’s confirmed [no it isn’t], and he’s not denying it [yes he did, twice]. And it’s out of the mouth of two witnesses [he continues to fail to produce these witnesses]. He said to the drill instructor that he’s a sodomite [bald-faced lie]. That he’s a homo [a lie]. And the drill instructor basically demanded that he prove that [and yet another lie]. And basically, as a result, he got that reputation for being a sodomite [Anderson can’t stop lying at this point], and so he was persecuted and then that led to his discharge a few weeks later.” One lie after another lie, after another lie, after another. This is standard Steven Anderson fare.
And he continues to lie throughout his rant. Even after pulling out a printed copy of the conversation he had with Pastor Durbin, and staring at it, and reading it to himself, he continues to misrepresent Pastor Durbin, and continue in his lying spree. “This is not something from his past that he repented of an forsook” Anderson says. But there was nothing for Durbin to repent of! Anderson just can’t accept that. It is as if Durbin has to be a homosexual in order for Anderson’s world to set aright at this point. He literally begins ranting, so much so that one can almost see the spittle flying from his lips as he goes on like a mad man. “He’s lying!” Anderson says, “and sending me this deceptive wall of text, this non-denial! … and won’t admit the simple fact that he told his drill instructor that he was a homo! He won’t admit that even though I asked him five, six times!” And yet, Durbin did respond, and he denied it twice; both time very clearly, very specifically, and very much ignored by Anderson.
Anderson continues, “I said look, I’m giving you one more chance, did you tell the drill instructor that you’re a homo? … I ask him five, six times, it’s just this wall of text about, ‘oh, you don’t understand, you know, I left voluntarily.’ yeah, we know that you were trying to get out of the Marine Corps ’cause you couldn’t cut the mustard.” An interesting comment coming from someone who was never man enough to sign up. Pastor Durbin may not have stayed in, but at least he had enough backbone to try. Anderson goes on, “But that’s not the point, okay? … and then finally I said, ‘Okay, last chance.’ I said, ‘Let’s try this one more time. Last chance. Are you denying you told the drill instructor that you were a homosexual?’ … I mean, you know, I asked him every..six different ways from someway..Sunday, he won’t deny it.” And yet again, Anderson has lied to his congregation. If anyone in his congregation had bothered to read Anderson’s blog, they would easily and quickly see that Durbin denied Anderson’s false allegations not once, but twice.
And if anyone bother’s to look at Anderson’s blog article about this, they will see something else that is very interesting (and which relates directly to the above “Berg Family Case”), and that is the analysis done of Jeff Durbin’s written responses to Steven Anderson during their Facebook conversation. They were not done by a professional statement analyst, but rather by Anderson’s wife Zsuzsanna. At the beginning of the blog post, Anderson wrote, “Disclosure: This analysis was done by the wife of Steven Anderson, while carefully following principle. Still, the reader should bear in mind that there could be bias present on the part of the analyst in favor of Steven Anderson that cannot be fully overcome.” Could be bias? Hmmmm? Let’s see. According to Zsuzsanna Anderson’s “analysis” of Jeff Durbin’s written responses to Steven Anderson’s badgering, Pastor Durbin’s responses of, “I was absolutely NEVER kicked out of the Marines for being a homosexual. I never have been a homosexual.”, about this response, Zsuzsanna writes, “This is not a reliable denial. … The original question asked of the subject was, ‘Apparently you were discharged for homosexuality?’ In his ‘denial,’ the subject changes ‘discharged’ to ‘kicked out.’ This begs the question whether the subject has a different internal definition of discharged vs. kicked out. … The unusual sentence structure is noted, with ‘never’ coming before ‘have.’ Using ‘never’ allows the subject to avoid saying ‘I have not been..’ As stated above, never is vague in time and thus not reliable.”
There you have it folks. Using the common verbiage of “kicked out” rather than “discharge” (which is common when referring to someone involuntarily discharged as Anderson is doing) is some form of avoidance; and saying he was not kicked out for being a homosexual and has never been a homosexual” is “not a reliable denial.” It is painfully obvious that the truth matters not to either Steven Anderson nor his wife, as both had it clearly established in their minds that Jeff Durbin was guilty as charged by Steven Anderson, regardless of the fact that Anderson has no proof, regardless of the fact that the charges leveled by Steven Anderson were denied by the one person who would have knowledge of this.
But Steven Anderson was determined to slander and smear Jeff Durbin. This is what he set out do to, and this is what he did. In fact, Anderson has been so determined to slander and smear Pastor Durbin, that he has produced a full dozen anti-Durbin videos that he has posted publicly on YouTube. Naturally, Anderson’s actions have resulted in several additional anti-Durbin videos being posted to YouTube by New IFB’ers “Ben the Baptist,” “The New IFB,” and others; as well as a plethora of anti-Durbin hate speech posted by New IFB’ers in the comments sections of these videos. Comments such as:
william graw
And who says "Christians won't gleefully take the mark of the Beast". Durtbin is the drum major marching christians [sic] to Hell.


Evangelist Baptist John Worley
Never heard of the lieing [sic] bastard. Jeff until recently. Skinnky [sic] jean wearing sissy


Bill Macgregor
Faggy voice and gestures, thumb ring, queer necklace, tattoos, beard, all go together.


FBG Custom Auto Lighting
Bill Macgregor can’t forget the V neck. How can someone dress so ridiculous and think God approves


Pastor Durbin’s good friend, Dr. James White, who is an Elder and the “Scholar in Residence” at Durbin’s Apologia Church, has fared about as well as Pastor Durbin, with more than a dozen videos condemning and slandering Dr. White posted to YouTube by Steven Anderson and New IFB’ers “Ben the Baptist, Jason Robinson, Joe Major, Paul Niven, Paul Wittenberger, and more. And, of course, the innumerable New IFB comments that slander Dr. White and say all manner of vile things about him.27

One of the most heart rending cases of abuse by the New IFB is the Harper Family case. Steven Harper and his family were members of Stedfast Baptist Church in Fort Worth, Texas. They began attending several years ago, long before the Donnie Romero scandal, and while Romero was the pastor of Stedfast. Romero had been groomed by Steven Anderson personally, for the express purpose of moving out from Anderson’s Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, Arizona (where Romero was attending as a member) to Fort Worth to start another New IFB church there. This he did, eventually becoming “independent” from Anderson’s mother church in Tempe. As mentioned previously, this is the preferred method of expansion used by Steven Anderson and the New IFB.
After the Romero scandal was made public (Pastor Romero publicly confessed to using drugs, having affairs with prostitutes, and numerous visits to casinos, plus Steven Anderson allegedly stated that Romero had stolen $50,000 from the church to fund these sins), it was also made public that Steven Harper’s special needs son had been sexually abused. Harper himself has made these accusations public via various YouTube videos he has posted online.
According to Steven Harper, one of Donnie Romero’s children had been “touching” Harper’s son’s “private areas.” Harper claims this was substantiated by another member of Stedfast Baptist Church, who told him that Romero’s child had done this to other children as well. The person who substantiated this, also told another couple who attended Stedfast Baptist Church, and it was agreed by these two (not Steven Harper) that they would simply keep their children away from the Romero children, and keep a better eye on their own children. They also told Steven Harper and his wife that they would also keep an eye on their special needs son. They apparently did not want to confront Donnie Romero about the abuse inflicted by his child on other, younger, children. Not confronting the pastor is a standard practice within the New IFB, and doing so can lead to excommunication and complete shunning and ostracization of the person confronting the pastor, as well as their entire family. We have seen this New IFB form of discipline in the cases of the Berg family, the Edwards family, and others.
Steven Harper, to his credit, refused to allow the matter to be put to rest, and he began investigating it. Initially, he refused to accept that Donnie Romero’s child had done this terrible thing to his young son. This is likely due to the New IFB practice of not confronting one’s pastor. This and other New IFB doctrines are repeatedly pounded into the heads of the members of New IFB churches. Because of this New IFB “thought control” (for ultimately this is what it is), Steven Harper looked to Donnie Romero for help in finding out who had abused his son. Romero was only too happy to be kept in the loop, and he insisted that every time Harper was contacted by the police, or contacted the police himself regarding this matter, that Harper immediately let Romero know what the police had discovered, or were asking. Very suspicious behavior to say the least, and leading one to believe that Romero’s child was involved, and that Romero knew about it.
Then the scandal broke, and Romero was removed by Steven Anderson from the pastorate of Stedfast church. So much for being an independent church. Anderson then brought in another of his personally groomed and ordained “pastors” to replace Donnie Romero at Stedfast (and both Stedfast satellite churches, in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma and Jacksonville, Florida). This man was Jonathan Shelley.
During the time between the removal of Donnie Romero and the installation of Jonathan Shelley, Anderson held two private, or secret, meetings between himself and the men of Stedfast Fort Worth. At the first meeting there were only five men in attendance in addition to Steven Anderson. They were Steven Harper, Kevin Edelman, John Stebner, Emmanual Zermano, and Jessie Michaels. Anderson insisted there be no recording of the meeting. It was during this meeting that Anderson told the men in attendance that Donnie Romero had stolen $50,000 of church money to fund his escapades with drugs, gambling, and prostitutes (thus indicating he was personally aware of the crime committed by Romero), and then, again according to Steven Harper, Anderson told the men in attendance that they were not to tell anyone of Romero’s crime, because, “we have to keep Donnie out of jail.” (this too is a crime in Texas, thus opening Anderson up to potential prosecution for fraud/embezzlement, and aiding and abetting. In Texas, those who fail to report a crime they have personal knowledge of, and actively engage in protecting the criminal and thus hindering law enforcement, can be tried not just for this crime, but also for the crime committed by the initial offender – in this case, Donnie Romero).
Anderson’s insistence that Donnie Romero be protected and kept out of jail, apparently extended to the abuse Harper claims his son suffered at the hands of Donnie Romero’s child. When Steven Harper took the information he had gathered to Jonathan Shelley for his help, Shelley intentionally drug his feet, and did nothing to help Harper and his family. According to Harper, Shelley’s primary concern was if there were eye witnesses to the abuse. According to Steven Harper, Jonathan Shelley told him that if no one personally witnessed the abuse, then there was nothing he could do to help Harper. When Jonathan Shelley was asked about his investigation into these claims of sexual abuse, Shelley stated that he asked Donnie Romero about it and Romero told him the accusations were not true. Apparently this was all Shelley needed to hear, although one has to question the wisdom of conducting an “investigation” which consisted of asking father of the accused if their child was a sexual abuser, and calling it all goo when they say, “No, of course not.” Harper says that Shelley continued to stall him and put him off, until the Harper’s decided they could no longer attend Stedfast Baptist Church, Fort Worth; and he told Shelley as much.
On the Sunday after the Harper family left Stedfast church, Jonathan Shelley stood up in the pulpit and publicly accused Steven Harper of making false accusations, and railing against members of the church. Shelley stated that he had done a thorough investigation (which by his own admission was anything but thorough) and found Harper’s accusations to be false. He stated that he had interviewed those involved (Harper had given him the names of the other church members who had knowledge of the abuse), and that they had denied anything took place. Please remember that in an interview, Jonathan Shelley stated his investigation was comprised of asking Donnie Romero, not talking to those whom Harper knew to be witnesses.
Coincidentally (or not) when Harper and his wife contacted those church members after Shelley’s sermon, they all denied having any knowledge of the abuse (in spite of earlier stating they did have such knowledge, and were willing to stand with the Harper’s and testify to what they knew), and they told the Harper’s it was now someone elses’s problem. They also began to shun the Harper’s and treat them as outcasts. Shelley also claimed to be in possession of a recording wherein Mrs. Harper allegedly told the Fort Worth police that no one in Texas had anything to do with the abuse. During the interview with Shelley, he claimed he received the recording from Donnie Romero. How Romero would have managed to gain access to what should have been evidence in a sexual abuse investigation is unknown, but very questionable.
When Jonathan Shelley excommunicated the Harper family, he ensured by this action that the Harper family would be shunned and ostracized, completely cut off from all friends and family still attending Stedfast and/or any other New IFB church. This is, of course, a standard practice within the New IFB, and serves to keep the members in check and subservient to the church leaders. As a result, the Harper’s were set adrift to deal with the aftermath of the abuse by themselves. No Stedfast member would associate with them, much less help them.
The New IFB points to 1 Timothy 5:19-20 as biblical support for this practice. The passage reads:
“19 Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses. 20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.”
The first verse in this passage, verse 19, is interpreted by the New IFB as “never question or confront the pastor. Period.” For those who do, however, they look to verse 20 as support for the public shaming of the person and their family from the pulpit, as well as their shunning. In other words, if you question or accuse the pastor (or in the case of Steven Harper, the former pastor, Donnie Romero), then you are in sin and must be punished. And this is exactly what Jonathan Shelley did. Not only based on 1 Timothy 5:19-20, but also on Steven Anderson’s order to keep Donnie Romero out of jail.
Since Steven Harper went public with the abuse of his young son, the family has been treated in much the same way as others before them, such as the Berg family and the Edwards family. Like the Berg family, the Harper’s have had child protective services called on them. Like the Edwards family, a person from Stedfast church created a fake Google account, and then went on YouTube pretending to be Steven Harper. In comments posted by the fake Steven Harper, this person pretending to be Mr. Harper posted a “confession” that he had been sexually molesting his own son. The fake account was soon thereafter deleted. Unlike the other families who found themselves victims of abuse at the hands of the New IFB, the Harper family also received threats of both physical violence and death. All of this allegedly from members of Stedfast Baptist Church, Fort Worth. Nice folks those New IFB.
Because of the twisted interpretation of this Bible passage and their accompanying unbiblical practice, the Steven Harper family was left to suffer and bear these burdens, and their young son left to remain a silent victim, while his abuser is left alone. While some may look at this and think, “well, this is all hearsay, all based on Steven Harper’s word.” Well, that isn’t entirely true. What many do not know is that after they left the church, Donnie Romero’s wife sent text messages (plural) to the Harper family, apologizing for ruining their lives. The only thing the Romero’s did to ruin the lives of Steven Harper and his wife and young son, was to abandon them after their child allegedly abused the Harper’s young son; and do nothing to stop the abuse. That’s it. We will leave it up to the reader to decide what Mrs. Romero meant by her repeated cryptic message; as well as strongly encourage the reader to continue in prayer for both the Harper family and the Romero family.
A former member of the New IFB interviewed for this article series spoke only on the express condition of anonymity, expressing a sincere fear of Steven Anderson and the New IFB. This person stated that Anderson and his followers will “try and ruin your life publicly if they possibly can. They don’t care about your family, your kids, they don’t care about innocent people or good men.”
The behavior displayed by Steven Anderson and the New IFB toward the Carone family, the Berg family, the Edwards family, Jeff Durbin, The Harper family and others mentioned in this chapter prove this beyond any reasonable doubt.


Part 3d Sources:


19. Text Messages Between Kris Byrne and Russell Bopst, June 13-26, 2016, PDF on file, accessed July 14, 2019.


Text Messages Between Kris Byrne and Ramon Ventura, June 20, 2016, PDF on file, accessed July 14, 2019.


20. My account of being kicked out of the Anderson Show (aka Faithful Word Baptist Church / FWBC) [33:22]
Kontrarian
Published on Jan 7, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2x5DlNR_74&feature=youtu.be
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video


21. Pastor Anderson kicking out an unrepentant trouble maker [7:10]
Craig Dohner
Published on Nov 16, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBGxGKmLZgg
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video


22. Personal email from Alyssa Carone dated July 5, 2019. on file.


Answering Email About Donnie Romero Divorce Options… [38:22]
TruthInLove - Christian Apologist - Alyssa Carone
Published on Jan 12, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71uX6v3Qcmk


Answering Email About Romero & The "New IFB"… [28:22]
TruthInLove - Christian Apologist - Alyssa Carone
Published on Jan 11, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGe697C1bsc


My Response To Pig Pastor Donnie Romero's "Apology" [14:40]
TruthInLove - Christian Apologist - Alyssa Carone
Published on Jan 10, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-c2zAVo65k


Was I Too Harsh On Donnie Romero… [20:17]
TruthInLove - Christian Apologist - Alyssa Carone
Published on Jan 31, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRu4I9WWS7w


Pig Pastor Romero Caught With Prostitutes After Condemning My Makeup… [23:35]
TruthInLove - Christian Apologist - Alyssa Carone
Published on Jan 5, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2tXLRVZTjk


Pastor Romero Caught With Prostitutes After Condemning My Makeup Part 2 [28:01]
TruthInLove - Christian Apologist - Alyssa Carone
Published on Jan 7, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jstuOOeA0xA


Trusting In The Sovereignty Of God When People Are Evil Like Donnie Romero… [34:01]
TruthInLove - Christian Apologist - Alyssa Carone
Published on Jan 13, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pl3n6fWHaM


My Wife Zsuzsa - Part 14
Friday, March 22, 2013
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2013/03/my-wife-zsuzsa-part-14.html
My mom, Susan Anderson...


Memorial Service for Grandma (Helen Anderson)
Tuesday, October 2, 2018
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2018/10/memorial-service-for-grandma-helen.html
Left to right: Clint, Spring, Dad, Denise, Myself, Zsuzsa, Matt, Lisa, Bobby, Raani


Per Public Records:
Steven Anderson’s Father is: Raymond Richard Anderson, DOB 1950
Steven Anderson’s Mother is: Susan Jeanene Tackaberry, DOB 1950
They divorced and remarried to:
Raymond Richard Anderson to Denise Ann Nicholls, DOB 1966 [they live in Roseville, Calif]
Susan J Tackaberry Anderson to Lance L Hagler, DOB 1952 [they live in Citrus Heights, Calif]


Divorce + Remarriage = Adultery! [1:56]
sanderson1611
Published on Feb 11, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzodigNPgNw


23. Confidential Source who has asked to remain anonymous due to fear of Anderson and his followers, explaining they have personally witnessed New IFB members conducting coordinated attacks on former members, explaining they have a single goal and that is to destroy their victim without regard as to how they accomplish this, and without regard to destroying the victims spouse or children in the process.


24. Confidential Source who has asked to remain anonymous due to fear of Anderson and his followers, explaining they have personally witnessed New IFB members conducting coordinated attacks on former members, explaining they have a single goal and that is to destroy their victim without regard as to how they accomplish this, and without regard to destroying the victims spouse or children in the process.


25. Video: Lie Detector Proves Pastor Steven Anderson to be a Liar and False Accuser of the Brethren, This one hour forty-five minute video was produced by Paul Berg in response to Steven Anderson’s decision to put Berg and his family out of the church, based solely on lies, false accusations, and misleading false information. The video is not available online. A copy of this video in its entirety is on file with the author.


Video: Are They All Your Bullies? Pastor Steven Anderson Raising Bullies? [5:08]
Tylah Baker
Published on Jun 13, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnu70-FWeHU&t=30s
MP4 of this video has been downloaded


Video: Response to Paul Berg [15:57]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on May 3, 2018
This is a response to Paul Berg's video entitled: LIE DETECTOR PROVES PASTOR STEVEN ANDERSON TO BE A LIAR AND FALSE ACCUSER OF THE BRETHREN!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPQssMNb9B4
MP4 of this video has been downloaded


Email from Advanced Interview Concepts of Harrisburg, North Carolina. Email on file.


Email from Truth2Lies Analysis Group, LLC of Tempe, Arizona. Email on file.


Arizona Revised Statutes 1-601 Parents Rights Protected
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/1/00601.htm


Arizona Revised Statutes 1-602 Parents Bill of Rights Definition
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/1/00602.htm


Arizona Revised Statutes 12-731 Recovery of civil damages
https://www.azleg.gov/viewdocument/?docName=https://www.azleg.gov/ars/12/00731.htm


Arizona Revised Statutes 13-601 Classification of offenses
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/00601.htm


Arizona Revised Statutes 13-603 Authorized disposition of offenders
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/00603.htm


Arizona Revised Statutes 13-702 First time felony offenders; sentencing; definition
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/00702.htm


Arizona Revised Statutes 13-801 Fines for felonies
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/00801.htm


Arizona Revised Statutes 13-3001 Eavesdropping and Communications: Definitions
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/03001.htm


Arizona Revised Statutes 13-3005 Interception of wire, electronic and oral communications; installation of pen register or trap and trace device; classification; exceptions
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/03005.htm


Arizona Revised Statutes 13-3012 Eavesdropping and Communications: Exemptions
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/03012.htm


State v. Hauss, 142 Ariz. 159, 164 (Ariz. Ct. App. 1984).
https://casetext.com/case/state-v-hauss-1


Arizona Wiretapping Law
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/arizona-recording-law


Arizona's wiretapping law is a "one-party consent" law. Arizona makes it a crime to intercept a "wire or electronic communication" or a "conversation or discussion" unless you are a party to the communication, present during the conversation or discussion, or one party to the communication or conversation consents. A.R.S. § 13-3005, -3012(9). Therefore, if you operate in Arizona, you may record a conversation or phone call if you are a party to the conversation or you get permission from one party to the conversation in advance. That said, if you intend to record conversations involving people located in more than one state, you should abide by the recording law of the most restrictive state involved, or play it safe and get the consent of all parties.
The wiretapping law covers oral communications when the speakers have "an expectation that the communication is not subject to interception under circumstances justifying the expectation," A.R.S. § 13-3001, but absent the speakers' justified expectation, the law does not apply. See State v. Hauss, 142 Ariz. 159, 164 (Ariz. Ct. App. 1984). Therefore, you may be able to record in-person conversations occurring in a public place, such as a street or restaurant, without consent. However, you should seek the consent of one or all of the parties before recording any conversation that an ordinary person would deem private.
Violation of the Arizona law is a felony, punishable by imprisonment and fine. See A.R.S. §§ 13-601, -603, -702, and -801 for more details.
In addition, while recording a conversation with the consent of only one party is legal in Arizona, a lawyer's recording of a conversation without the consent of all parties may be unethical under the Arizona Rules of Professional Conduct. See State Bar of Arizona Ethics Opinions 75-13, 95-03. However, an attorney may advise her client to record a conversation without the consent of all parties as long as the recording is legal and the attorney does not participate in the recording. See State Bar of Arizona Ethics Opinion 00-04.
In addition to subjecting you to criminal prosecution, violating the Arizona wiretapping law can expose you to a civil lawsuit for damages by an injured party. See A.R.S. § 12-731.


Are polygraphs admissible in court?
http://www.mattepolygraph.com/legal_admissibility.html


Arizona Defamation Law
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/arizona-defamation-law


Is It Legal To Record A Conversation With A Minor?
From: https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/is-it-legal-to-record-a-conversation-with-a-minor--840189.html


Telephone interview with Paul Berg on 29 August 2019


Telephone interview with Paul Berg on 03 September 2019


Text Messages from Anonymous Faithful Word Baptist Church member with another Faithful Word Baptist Church member, regarding why the Berg’s were kicked out of Faithful Word Baptist Church by Steven Anderson; thus confirming Anderson spoke to the congregation about this.


Facebook Private Message dated February 28, 2018, and sent to members of Faithful Word Baptist Church by Zsuzsanna Anderson, the wife of FWBC pastor, Steven Anderson, in which she states the Berg family was “thrown out” of the church for “admitted incest,” and that Paul Berg was “guilty” of being a “predator and child molester.” All accusations that were proven to be false. Based on Deuteronomy 19:15-21, which Anderson used as justification for throwing the Berg’s out of the church, since his wife has also made the false accusations, she too should be thrown out of the church. In fact, since Anderson himself has falsely accused Paul Berg, based on this passage, he should also be thrown out of the church.


Telephone interview with Anonymous on 26 June 2019.
This person has stated, “I want to be anonymous on this. I don’t want to be singled out by these guys. I don’t want to use the word crazy, but the word narcissist has been thrown around. Somebody got thrown out of Stedfast Fort Worth for calling Shelley a narcissist or something. I believe it. I believe these guys are dangerous. I believe they would try and ruin your life publicly if they possibly can. They don’t care about your family, your kids, they don’t care about innocent people or good men”. This person’s concern was clearly genuine, and based on first hand experience with the New IFB. Because of this, their request for anonymity will be respected.


26. Detailed Breakdown of Jeff Durbin's Non-Denial
Written by Steven Anderson, Monday, December 24, 2018
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2018/12/detailed-breakdown-of-jeff-durbins-non.html
This Blog Article Downloaded as a PDF and is on file


While Mrs. Anderson presents her “analysis” in a manner that makes it appear as if it were done by a professional analyst, it isn’t and she isn’t. In a video produced by Mrs. Anderson and posted by her to YouTube, titled, “Mothering Moment - What to do if you're married to a jerk” [streamed live on YouTube July 19, 2019, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5BEgyE3uug, accessed 29 September 2019, video on file with the author], Mrs. Anderson states that she has just completed “three years of professional training” in how to analyze people’s words, so she is better able to read between the lines than most people.” Sounds impressive, but it is more an embellishment than an actual accomplishment. In the comment section of the same video, when asked where she had taken this “three years of professional training,” Mrs. Anderson revealed that she had taken, “some online courses and seminars, some seminars in person.” While she does not reveal which online course she took, when asked for book recommendations on the subject, she recommended those by Mark McClish of Advanced Interviewing Concepts. McClish offers a four month online course in statement analysis, and she likely took this course. An internet search for online statement analysis courses revealed several options, however, most are anywhere from a few hours to a month in length. One company offers a one-year program, and another offers a work-at-your-own-pace program, but there are no three-year programs such as Mrs. Anderson describes. It is likely she has embellished her online accomplishment, and is hardly a professionally trained statement analyst, unless you consider taking an online do-it-yourself study course written by a professional as being professionally trained.


Jeff Durbin and His Drill Instructor [6:52]
Faithful Word
Published on Dec 26, 2018
This is an excerpt from the full sermon "Demon Possessed Preachers:"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WF1y23UAAA&t=148s
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Jeff Durbin's Church Promotes Tattoos and Booze [13:23]
sanderson1611
Published on Dec 26, 2018
Here is the link to the full sermon from Sunday night where Pastor Anderson exposes Jeff Durbin as a demoniac and a Sodomite. The sermon is called "Demon Possessed Preachers:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2IjSoWuGg4
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


"Demon Possessed Preachers" (Jeff Durbin Exposed) [58:21]
sanderson1611
Streamed live on Dec 23, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXD-OisY2Uw
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Pastor Jeff Durbin = Pervert, Dog, Drunkard [16:02]
sanderson1611
Published on Aug 20, 2017
[Note: it is in this video that Anderson calls both Durbin and his wife “Drunks” and “Alcoholics” and calls Jeff Durbin, a “Drunkard”, as well as a pervert and a dog, etc. Pure slander, unsubstantiated slander, thus making Anderson a biblically defined slanderer and railer. The fact that he still has this video up on his YouTube channel, for all the world to see, and has since August 20, 2017 – almost two full years (today is August 15, 2019), shows that he could not care less. An unrepentant sinner, flaunting his sin in God’s face. And he’s a Christian? No, he is a blasphemer. And who does not inherit the kingdom of heaven? 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (KJV): “9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” Unless one repents and is saved, verse 11, “And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.” AND: Leviticus 19:16 (KJV), “16 Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour; I am the Lord.”]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzOirKIwAF4
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Jeff Durbin Apologia Beer Church [5:25]
sanderson1611
Published on Dec 1, 2018
Please accept my "apologia." Here is the link to the sermon where the error was made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyUNZU2J4Dw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zoly8puVpA0
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


"What It Means to be a Fundamental Baptist" (No Glitches) [1:15:49]
sanderson1611
Published on Dec 1, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyUNZU2J4Dw
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


I Never Knew You. Depart from Me! (Jeff Durbin) [2:36]
sanderson1611
Published on Aug 29, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Ejbdor6jQ
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


The Possession of Jeff Durbin [7:17]
sanderson1611
Published on December 26, 2018
This is an excerpt from the full sermon "Demon Possessed Preachers:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHrHfAjSfTA
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Jeff Durbin's Thinly Veiled Works Salvation [4:50]
sanderson1611
Published on Dec 14, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsNHhix0-mE
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Pastor Jeff Durbin's Dirty Comedy Show [3:15]
sanderson1611
Published on Sep 1, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Oo35OpjUiQ
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Pastor Anderson vs. Jeff Durbin [7:39]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on Dec 1, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lx7Ql2zi0k
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


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Pastor Jeff Durbin approved "Dirty Trinity" tattoo for church member (Apologia Church) [0:50]
The New IFB
Published on Dec 26, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGTyJ6fDcRs
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Booze is a Blessing says James White's New Pastor Jeff Durbin (Apologia Church Tempe AZ) [1:11]
The New IFB
Published on Dec 1, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO2aXhe6VUY
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Jeff Durbin & James White Attack Pastor Anderson (Call him a Internet Troll) [1:20]
The New IFB
Published on Dec 6, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZvI5fWK9P4
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Apologia Church / Tattoo Parlor exposed by Pastor Steven Anderson (Jeff Durbin / James White) [14:27]
The New IFB
Published on Dec 26, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcPxGvMjdWg
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Sue me Jeff Durbin, I dare you! (Pastor Steven Anderson) [1:26]
The New IFB
Published on Dec 27, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8R1xll6Qig
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
In this video, Anderson claims he has nothing and his church has nothing. Surprising considering he is bringing in $120,000 per month on average.


Jeff Durbin: Kingdom of God Documentary Exposed (Apologia Studios) [3:51]
New Ifb
Published on May 17, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AEvE_0l3tE
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Jeff Durbin's Christian "Comedy" is Terrible (Apologia Studios Fail) [3:52]
Ben the Baptist
Published on Aug 29, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfBqvlRKLrI
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


27. James White: Not Enough Greeks to be Worth Evangelizing [7:55]
sanderson1611
July 21, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYRHEjk_klw&t=220s
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


James White vs Steven Anderson (debate vs Evangelism) [2:33]
sanderson1611
July 21, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J8h9hsYxno
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


What’s the Big Deal about Dr. James White? - Part 1 [9:52]
sanderson1611
November 13, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO48cqShD_s
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video


Ten “Response to ‘The King James Only Controversy” (Book by James White) – ten videos, one per chapter
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTSXeNpNACE&t=288s
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFJ1kTzsUtk&t=11s
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZmRb1zPfVQ
4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfgrFs9NaPI
5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyf8ePNs0Ro
6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuqqhTyp_bM
7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8KUvuQyhYA
8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU5iSHF65nc
9. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1OJxbJaG-4
10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpzZVxncz4I


plus videos by Ben the Baptist, Paul Wittenberger, Jason Robinson, Joe Major, “The New IFB” YouTube channel (Paul Niven), and more, including:


Dr James White Is A Moronic Pervert - Steven Anderson [8:39]
The Polemicist
Published on Jan 13, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oBr4NACqVY
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video


James White Thinks He’s God [2:55]
Ben the Baptist
Published on Jan 4, 2018
Stay away from false prophet heretic “Dr.” James White.
Note: The Comments Are A Real Treasure!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIE00U6u2nw&feature=youtu.be
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video


James White Scared To Death of Pastor Major [2:56]
Joe Major (Faith Baptist Church)
Published on Nov 30, 2018
Note: Do you notice the click bait style title? There is nothing in this video indicating White is “scared to death of” Joe Major. Nothing. White is merely commenting on who stupid and childish the video trailer for “Calvinism – The Doctrine of Devils” is. Major is simply flattering himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEdpyOHXH4c
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video


James White covets Steven Anderson's popularity [18:39]
The Word Independent Baptist Church
Streamed live on Dec 12, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S1DwzADCJ0
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video


Not to mention all the various comments left by Andersonites!!!


28. Stedfast Baptist Church Coverup Video #1 Donnie Romero 12-3-18 [6:34]
Cult Survivors
Published on Jan 13, 2019 (1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lON9TEvNLU
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video


Stedfast Baptist Church Cover up Video 2: The Lies of The Cardona Family
Steven Harper KJV
Published on Jan 13, 2019 (2)


Stedfast Baptist Church cover up Video 3: The Alleged Perpetrators Mom [20:25]
Cult Survivors
Published on Jan 13, 2019 (3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFFZebQmGeA
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video


Steven Harper KJV Claims Stedfast Baptist Church Cover-up by Donnie Romero and Jonathan Shelley [6:34]
shedrock vieira
Published on Jan 14, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCQcVMHFjVw
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video


Steven Harper Says Will Continue to Expose the Cover-up @ Stedfast Baptist Church Despite Harassment [1:30]
Banned From THE NEW IFB
Published on Jan 14, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcHq7LSU0A0
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video


Harper Family Alleges Abuse Cover-up at Stedfast Baptist Church (Jonathan Shelley and Donnie Romero) [8:20]
Banned From THE NEW IFB
Published on Jan 14, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRDcNNt1qmo
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video


Phone call privacy complaint(cover up) [3:08]
Cult Survivors
Published on Jan 14, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFozqCia2KQ
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video


3 privacy complaints received Stedfast Baptist Church cover up #conspiracy [0:54]
Cult Survivors
Published on Jan 15, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0oHVAmX9fk
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video


Steven Harper Calls Out Stedfast Baptist Church and Pastor Jonathan Shelley for Abuse Cover-up [0:57]
Banned From THE NEW IFB
Published on Jan 15, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSyU4-IdeOc&feature=youtu.be
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video


Leaving Stedfast Baptist Church Proof 1 #Stedfast #Baptist #Coverup [10:27]
Titus Kjv [Steven Harper]
Published on Jan 29, 2019 (1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qz8qJeYmT4
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video


STEDFAST BAPTIST CHURCH
Jonathan Shelly of Stedfast Baptist Church is a proven Liar call recording#Coverup #Cult #Abuse [3:19]
Retitled: “Evidence i left stedfast Baptist video 2 Jonathan shelly lied #Coverup #Cult #Abuse”
Titus Kjv
Published on Jan 29, 2019 (2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wZZfkm_ypI
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video


John stebner Freudian slip. [0:52]
Titus Kjv
Published on Jan 29, 2019 (3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOrTZGzk21E
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video


Stedfast Baptist Jonathan Shelly Exposed #NewIFB #Abuse #Deception [19:44]
Titus KJV
January 30, 2019 (01)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCol9Lvs2qs
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video


Shadow pc rendering jonathan shelly exposed video [3:01]
Titus KJV
January 30, 2019 (02)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bu-vSb049Y
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video


Emmanuel of Stedfast Baptist Church 1-9-2019 [18:37]
Titus KJV
January 30, 2019 (03)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy7U9_0-dmg
NOTE: This video was removed from YouTube. It was downloaded before it was removed, however.
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video


Reuploading videos and discussing cult practices [10:17]
Cult Survivors [Steven Harper]
Published on Feb 3, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV3TvtJw1jY
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video


Emmnanuel Zermano correction |Stedfast Baptist Church Cult Member [12:00]
Cult Survivors [Steven Harper]
Published on Feb 3, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0praakFCLE8
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video


Stedfast baptist church John Stebner Repobate False Accuser #Reprobate #Psychopath #StedfastBaptist [6:04]
Cult Survivors [Steven Harper]
Published on Feb 3, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcNFrkEs_4s
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video


Caught you slippin [8:07]
Cult Survivors [Steven Harper]
Published on Feb 5, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzEaCpN1qB0
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video


Telephone interview with Steven Harper, dated 10 February 2019


Telephone interview with Steven Harper, dated 18 July 2019


Telephone interview with Steven Harper, dated 19 July 2019


Telephone interview with Steven Harper, dated 25 July 2019


Telephone interview with Jonathan Shelley, dated 27 February 2019

The hatred and hate speech of Steven Anderson and his New IFB clone pastors, has naturally flowed over into Anderson’s followers – both in his own church, as well as in the other New IFB churches and around the world; and flowed, and flowed, and flowed to such a degree that the entire movement is infected with demonic hatred. Simply being in a discussion with them for only a few moments, and the hatred begins to spew forth like just so much poisonous vomit. Here are only a few examples of comments made by New IFB Andersonites on a few YouTube videos. A few examples out of hundreds that have been collected out of the thousands that have been witnessed in researching this article.
The following have been taken from the comments section of a YouTube video posted by Andersonite Benjamin “Ben the Baptist” Naim:

In another example of online violence, Ben "the Baptist" Naim, one of the popular rising stars in Steven Anderson's New IFB Movement, gave his solution for crime in a blog article he authored titled, "What the Bible prescribes for murderers and other violent criminals." Ben writes,
"Although soft, lefty, effeminate Christians shudder at the thought of capital punishment, the Bible makes it clear that certain criminals should be put to death. In this article, I’ll talk about the BIBLICAL solution for the violent crime epidemic sweeping inner city neighborhoods and other areas throughout the United States and the world.
Murder:
"According to News4Jax, FDLE data show 112 murders in Duval County in 2017, six more than the previous year. That’s 16.8 slayings per 100,000 Jacksonville residents, giving the city the highest murder rate of Florida’s largest cities. By far.
"Here’s what the Bible says we can do to alleviate this problem:
"Leviticus 24:17 And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death."Put them to death. Perhaps if the government followed Leviticus 24:17 for all offenders, Jacksonville wouldn’t be the murder capital of Florida! Perhaps some broken neighborhoods (where it isn’t even safe to walk your dog down a public sidewalk) would get cleaned up and transformed into less of a hell hole.
"Obviously, there should be a proper investigation prior to the appropriate punishment being dolled out.
"1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
"1 Peter 2:14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
"1 Peter 2 tells us that the role of government is to punish evildoers.
"Putting a psychopath killer in prison, where they get fed and clothed, does NOT constitute punishment. People who don’t get a life term inevitably become repeat offenders because prison does nothing to inhibit them from falling back into the same situation that got them there in the first place!
Rape:
"Deuteronomy 22:25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die:"Feminists claim to fight against “rape culture,” yet they’ve fully embraced Islam (where rape victims are executed under Sharia Law) and they reject the death penalty for rapists. How does that make sense?
"The Bible says that if a man forces a woman, he should be executed by the government. This is how we save women from being assaulted and this is how we make potential predators think twice before acting on their disgusting impulse.
"Apparently, leftists want the government to subsidize abortion clinics for women to execute a baby conceived through rape while allowing the rapist to live! This is pure insanity. According to the Bible, the baby should live and the rapist should die.
Sodomy:
"All sodomites are violent predators who should be put to death by the government.
"The Bible tells us in Leviticus 20:13
"Levitcus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."This is what happens when sodomites get their way, they compass a house looking for someone to victimize:
"Judges 19:22  Now as they were making their hearts merry, behold, the men of the city, certain sons of Belial, beset the house round about, and beat at the door, and spake to the master of the house, the old man, saying, Bring forth the man that came into thine house, that we may know him.
"Judges 19:23  And the man, the master of the house, went out unto them, and said unto them, Nay, my brethren, nay, I pray you, do not so wickedly; seeing that this man is come into mine house, do not this folly.
"Genesis 19:4  But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
"Genesis 19:5  And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them."We see in both instances that homos attempt to abuse another man because they have no conscience and no ability to discern right from wrong. This is why the Bible refers to them as “beasts” made to be taken and destroyed.
"If our government actually followed Leviticus 20:13 and prescribed the death penalty for filthy predators, far less children would be abused and recruited into the sodomite deathstyle and innocent lives would be saved.
"Overall, the modern prison industrial complex is an abject failure designed to line the pockets of wealthy elites who profit from mass incarceration. According to the Bible, the appropriate response to violent crime is capital punishment — NOT a lengthy prison sentence where the offender gets to sit in a glorified hotel at the tax payer’s expense."1
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Leaving a comment on Ben’s blogpost, I asked him,
“Hello Ben, I wonder if you would add adulterers to this list of those deserving of the death penalty, since the Bible calls for their death in Leviticus 20, just a few verses before it calls for the death of homosexuals? And if so, would you include both of Steven Anderson's parents who are living in adultery, and Donnie Romero who has committed adultery? And what are your thoughts on Steven Anderson continuing to present Donnie Romero as a "Man of God" on his website, almost 8 months after Romero admitted to doing drugs, drinking, adultery, stealing $50,000 from the church, and (like you) repeatedly visiting casinos?” (yes, I intentionally poked a wasp nest of heresy)
https://benthebaptistkjv.com/2019/07/22/the-biblical-response-to-violent-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-3


Thus far, Ben has not responded.


And the following is taken from a video posted by Jonathan Shelley, pastor of New IFB church, Stedfast Baptist Church Fort Worth:

And here Steven Anderson replies to CassieRae McMurtry, the wife of New IFB pastor Tommy McMurtry. Note the high degree of respect Anderson displays toward Mrs. McMurtry:

The New IFB can be compared to a volcano with multiple vents that allow violence to escape. A volcano with Steven Anderson as its god, “Stephanus Andersonus Vulcanus,” the New IFB god of fire, manifesting in the fiery explosions of verbal violence erupting from the New IFB volcanic ventings.
These ventings can be placed into two main categories, minor and major. Of course there are more minor ventings than major ones, and often with many unknown victims. But it is the major ventings, such as the New IFB verbal assaults on homosexuals, that catch the eyes and ears of the media and the world at large. As we examine some of these ventings, let’s begin with a look at the minor ventings, and some of the unknown victims of the New IFB.
As with the vast majority of violent people, their verbal violence is only the tip of a very large iceberg. Many people have seen the numerous videos on YouTube featuring the rantings, railings, and revilings of Steven Anderson. Videos abound of Anderson kicking his pulpit, pounding on it, or jumping up on top it all while screaming invective's at the top of his lungs2, and many have seen them.
What many do not see, however, is the aftermath of Anderson’s ranting. But there are some indications that what we do not see may very well be terrifying. For example, at the Sunday evening service at Steven Anderson’s Faithful Word Baptist Church on July 17, 2016, Richard Miller gave a sermon titled, “What A Time To Be Alive.” Among other subjects in this sermon, Miller touched on what he called the manly things, such as shooting guns, hunting food, and fighting. These are what men do and women do not do according to Miller’s sermon. “It’s a manly thing to fight! It’s something that men do,” Miller said. He went on to exclaim, “if you’re a man, you oughta love to fight!”3 It should be noted that Miller was a protégé of Steven Anderson, whom Anderson later ordained to the position of pastor, setting him up with his own church in Tennessee.4
And, of course, we have already learned about New IFB pastor Jonathan Shelley’s (another Steven Anderson protégé ordained by Anderson) approach to child rearing: “If ya don’t want your kids to go to hell, ya gotta beat ‘em! Ya gotta train ‘em, ya gotta chasten ‘em, ya gotta scourge ‘em! And we see very clearly from this passage, it’s not a suggestion. Verse 14, ‘Thou Shalt Beat Him,’ that’s the same as all the other Ten Commandments.”5 Clearly, Shelley believes child abuse is not only mandatory, it’s a sign of love.
And this is apparently the same method of child rearing employed in the Anderson household as well. Mrs. Anderson has written extensively about problems with modern child rearing methods. In one of her blog posts she points out the benefits of the “rod of correction” and looks back longingly at her own upbringing in East Germany with “old-school grandparents.”6 Former Faithful Word church member, and executive producer of Anderson’s New World Order Bible Versions “documentary,” Paul Berg, related in a YouTube video that when Anderson was told two of his sons had bullied another boy by drawing a picture of the boy with feces on his face and calling him “poop face,” Anderson responded by beating his two sons.7 Granted, bullying should never be tolerated, but drawing a picture of another boy and calling it “poop face” is not all that unusual for young elementary school children and hardly warrants much punishment at all, much less a beating.
Steven Anderson’s wife also weighs in on the subject of spousal abuse, giving advice to women who are being abused by their husbands. In her blog article, “So You’re Married To A Jerk,” Zsuzsanna Anderson writes, “Chances are that the ‘victim’ in this situation made their own bed. … my personal observation has been that those who complain about their spouses...or think all the time what a jerk he is, maybe are not a pleasant person to be around themselves. Maybe it’s them who is the problem? Just hypothetically, let’s assume that a sweet, godly lady marries a nice godly guy. After they are married, completely out of the blue, he changes personalities and turns out to be a complete jerk. What should she do? Does she have any ‘recourse’?...The only biblical recourse for a horrible marriage, or any marriage for that matter, is death. If your husband is an abusive, mean, hateful, fill-in-the-blank jerk in spite of you doing your best as a wife, God can kill him whenever He wants to. If he is still alive, God must still want you to be married to him. ...If nothing else, it will be a great lesson for the kids, who hopefully will grow up and make wiser and more careful choices regarding their future spouse...” Zsuzsanna doubles down in the comments section insisting there is no biblical reason to ever divorce or separate from a spouse.8
Perhaps the most chilling example of the violence that Steven Anderson and the New IFB has fomented, is the online presence of Andersonite Shawn Barnish. During Steven Anderson’s online live Q&A on May 30, 2019, Barnish, a member of Anderson’s Faithful Word Baptist Church, was appointed to moderate the online live chat along with fellow Andersonite Benjamin “Ben the Baptist” Naim. His live chat responses to Roger Clay (an associate who has helped work on this article) were, of course, typical of Anderson and his followers, full of invective's and slander. In one incident, Barnish told Clay, “Shut up f****t.” Ben the Baptist then promptly expelled Roger from the chat.9
His vitriol, however, seemed to be just a notch above the standard Andersonite, and on a level fairly equal with Ben the Baptist and Anderson himself. Because of this a more indepth investigation into Mr. Barnish seemed warranted. In one video on his public YouTube channel, Mr. Barnish is driving through the desert vociferously complaining about the U.S. Government, and not being the least bit shy about using foul language in front of his pre-teen daughter (at least two of God’s commands were ignored by Mr. Barnish in a video less than ten minutes long).10
Also on his YouTube channel is a hidden link that takes the visitor to Mr. Barnish’s website, “God, Guns, Guts, and Glory.” On his website he features a link to Steven Anderson’s “The Bible Way To Heaven” video, a link to his blog, and a link to a live chat feature which runs for those who are aware of it, during Steven Anderson’s sermons. As already noted, the link to Mr. Barnish’s website is hidden on his YouTube page, and not readily noticeable to a member of the general public.
When one clicks on Mr. Barnish’s live video chat, things become extremely disturbing as the visitor is exposed to a video of a very graphic, very violent, very bloody murder of what is purportedly a homosexual youth. The person posting this video claims it was taken in Jamaica. That a professing Christian would allow a graphic video of a violent murder to be posted to his personal website for the purpose of entertainment (of all things), and to an “alternate” and hidden Faithful Word Baptist Church/Steven Anderson sermon live chat (again, for entertainment purposes), is beyond reprehensible, and clearly demonstrates the depravity of the New IFB.

During Steven Anderson’s fourth “Live Uncensored” YouTube call-in program, I confronted Shawn Barnish in the accompanying live chat about the murder video on his personal website, in the Faithful Word Baptist Church live sermon chat. As you can see from the chat screen shot below, Barnish initially tried to deny it, then tried to shift the blame on the chat program itself. When he could no longer legitimately deny responsibility, his friend Benjamin “The Baptist” Naim stepped in and ejected me from the chat.11

Before banning me from the live chat, Ben the Baptist could not resist condemning me to hell.

But when his bait was refused, he kicked me out.

Elsewhere in the chat, Barnish’s friend and fellow Faithful Word member, Osmar Ponce, chimed in with a comment that was not only typical of Andersonites, but certainly in keeping with the murder video on the FWBC Live Sermon Chat on Barnish’s website:

As we peel back the layers of veneer (thin though they might be) covering the New IFB movement, we begin to see more and more evil in the form of violence toward others, to the point of eclipsing the group that most often comes to mind when one things of violent pseudo-Christian groups – the Westboro Baptist Church.
Fred Phelps (the founder and leader of the Westboro church) and Steven Anderson actually have quite a bit in common.
– Both are listed as hate groups and hate group leaders by the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League12
– Both are well known for their hatred of homosexuals13
– Both are rabidly anti-Semitic14
– Both are independent fundamental Baptist preachers (meaning they have no accountability whatsoever)15
– Both oppose set apart Sunday School meetings16
– Both oppose Bible college17
– Both have been banned from foreign countries (Phelps from the UK, Anderson from the UK and over 30 other countries)18
In spite of the similarities, however, Steven Anderson has managed to exceed Phelps in the extent of his hatred. Whereas Phelps had only one church, Anderson holds sway over a global network of like-minded pastors, churches, and congregants within the New IFB movement. In his own church – upon which all other New IFB churches are modeled, Anderson rules with an iron fist which he repeatedly pounds on his large hollow pulpit (designed to reverberate with his pounding) with as much gusto as he can muster; coupled with screaming at the top of lungs, both the words of his sermons, and also invectives at some of those present. In short, Steven Anderson is a pulpit thug.


Part 3c Sources:
1. The Biblical Response to Violent Crime

Posted on July 22, 2019, by Ben the Baptist
https://benthebaptistkjv.com/2019/07/22/the-biblical-response-to-violent-crime/


2. Steven Anderson's Hatred and Railing

Christopher Johnson
Published on Mar 14, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpdkZwISgRg


Steven Anderson's Hatred and Wrath

Christopher Johnson
Published on Mar 14, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2JgwH2ir0s


Pastor Steven Anderson Epic Rant

The Kragen Clan
Published on Jan 25, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Bvyp0gyQs&feature=youtu.be


Best Pastor Steven Anderson Rants/Hard Preaching pt 3

Baptist 1611
Published on Dec 30, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUD0SIjWWAY


Pastor Steven Anderson Crazy Rants – Compilation

The Bible does not say that homosexuals are beasts. I think Anderson is getting that from 2 Peter 2 :12 that uses the word beast a few verses after mentioning Sodom and Gomorrah, but in context the verse is talking about false teachers who are like beasts / animals in what they do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttxumEkHnKE&feature=youtu.be


Pastor Steven Anderson - Jeremiah 16

On!yDaTruth
Published on Jun 28, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TK3fA_iTQQ


Steven Anderson Is Losing Followers & Church Members

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djQgl3j6j0I

3. Christian Men Should Love to Fight

Elliott Ray
Published on Jul 18, 2016
A clip from the sermon, "What a Time to be Alive", preached by brother Richard Miller at Faithful Word Baptist Church on the night of 07-17-16.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hl3Da6n-a4


4. Richard Miller Pastor Ordination (Faithful Word Baptist Church)

Wendy Davis
Published on Oct 16, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76XT0GT32v4


5. Parents Are Commanded By God to Spank Their Children

Stedfast Baptist Church [Jonathan Shelley]
Published on Jan 21, 2019
Video Description: “Pastor Shelly explains from the Bible that parents who refuse to discipline and correct their children are disobedient to God and hate their children. Full Sermon: https://youtu.be/5KWOXWg7UYo”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3vBKX-8vao


Rebellious Teenagers Are Worthy of Death

Stedfast Baptist Church
Published on Jan 21, 2019
Pastor Shelley explains how the Bible teaches that Rebellious teenagers who are lazy drunkards should be executed by the government. Full Sermon: https://youtu.be/5KWOXWg7UYo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIns-wVlrw4

6. Radical Unschooling

By Zsuzsanna Anderson, Tuesday, December 19, 2017
http://stevenandersonfamily.blogspot.com/2017/12/radical-unschooling.html


7. ARE THEY ALL YOUR BULLIES Pastor Steven Anderson Raising Bullies Tylah Baker

Published on Jun 13, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnu70-FWeHU&feature=youtu.be


8. Blog article: So you're married to a jerk...
by Zsuzusanna Anderson, Tuesday, January 18, 2011
https://stevenandersonfamily.blogspot.com/2011/01/so-youre-married-to-jerk.html


9. Steven Anderson Uncensored Live Q & A (#2)

sanderson1611
Streamed live on May 30, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDT2ACSxn1A&t=6325s


10. What is more annoying? No shooting signs or the Samsung S8+?

Shawn Barnish
Published on Sep 10, 2017
Today after church I took my daughter out to Table Mesa (Exit) to go to the desert and do some shooting.
It had been a little while since I was out on this road and we found that they added a bunch of new signs. Conflicting signs at that.
A sign will display RULES FOR SHOOTING then the next sign 50 feet away will say NO SHOOTING. So which is it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hXWaHyfvkQ&t=202s


11. Steven Anderson Uncensored (Episode 4)

sanderson1611
Streamed live on Jul 11, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpZNRaII3EU


12. "Kill the homos" pastor and hate group leader Steven Anderson pushes into the Last Frontier
April 03, 2018, Brendan Joel Kelley
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/04/03/kill-homos-pastor-and-hate-group-leader-steven-anderson-pushes-last-frontier


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SPLC Designated Hate Group
Westboro Baptist Church (WBC) is arguably the most obnoxious and rabid hate group in America.
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ADL Deeply Troubled at Upcoming Documentary Film Denigrating Jews and Judaism
New York, NY, November 24, 2014 … The Anti-Defamation League
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https://web.archive.org/web/20100707223315/http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/WBC/default.asp?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_America&xpicked=3&item=WBC


13. Anti-Semitic Arizona Preacher Steven Anderson, Who Says Homosexuals Should Be Executed, Banned From Netherlands
By Kashmira Gander On 5/2/19
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Pastor defends his anti-homosexual sermon

USA TODAY
Published on Dec 6, 2014
Arizona pastor Steven Anderson defends his anti-gay sermon and beliefs. In a previous sermon, Anderson can be heard explaining why he believes that the cure for AIDS is to kill all homosexuals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbSM_kxpObc


Extremism in America: Westboro Baptist Church
https://web.archive.org/web/20100707223315/http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/WBC/default.asp?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_America&xpicked=3&item=WBC


“God Hates Fags”
Westboro Baptist Church Homepage, Retrieved July 14, 2019


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14. 'Marching to Zion' Official Full Film – Youtube

framingtheworld
Published on May 14, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=typ2pl2L47k


Texe Marrs Interviews Steven Anderson About 'Marching to Zion' Part 1

framingtheworld
Published on May 5, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vbUkXm8K3g


Texe Marrs Interviews Steven Anderson About 'Marching to Zion' Part 2

framingtheworld
Published on May 6, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HaBBRsHTOY


Extremism in America: Westboro Baptist Church
https://web.archive.org/web/20100707223315/http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/WBC/default.asp?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_America&xpicked=3&item=WBC


15. Faithful Word Baptist Church
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithful_Word_Baptist_Church


Fred Phelps
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps


16. Steven Anderson's Sermon against the Nursery and Sunday School

New IFBdot info
Published on Sep 19, 2018
http://newifb.info/index.php/2018/09/...
Originally posted as "'Suffer the Children' Baptist Preaching against nurseries and childrens' church"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E2M_rCeo4k


Westboro Baptist Church – Memo on the Church
July 21, 2002
https://web.archive.org/web/20090419130119/http://www.godhatesfags.com/written/wbcinfo/memoonthechurch.pdf


17. Church vs Bible College

Rehoboth Baptist
Published on Apr 26, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAHz5h5pcNk


College Makes Women Stupid

Sanderson 1611
Published on Mar 9, 2017
Excerpt from "Finish What You Start" preached at Faithful Word Baptist Church
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAd0GPIYRsQ&t=46s


"College" and "School" in the Bible

sanderson1611
Published on Dec 10, 2017
Excerpt from "The Bible College Scam"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb82LkIGWkQ&t=5s
MP4 for this video has been downloaded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnfL0W7t6mI


Young People: Don't Go to Bible College! [0:59]
sanderson1611
Published on Dec 10, 2017
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb82LkIGWkQ&t=5s
MP4 for this video has been downloaded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJEOhuvzeSg


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July 21, 2002
https://web.archive.org/web/20090419130119/http://www.godhatesfags.com/written/wbcinfo/memoonthechurch.pdf


18. Far-Right, Anti-Gay Arizona Pastor Becomes First-Ever Person Banned From Ireland Under Exclusion Powers
By Christina Zhao On 5/13/19
https://www.newsweek.com/far-right-anti-gay-arizona-pastor-becomes-first-ever-person-banned-ireland-1423359


US Preacher Now Banned From All 28 EU Countries
May 2019 — Rob Quinn, Newser
https://start.att.net/news/read/category/news/article/newser-us_preacher_now_banned_from_all_28_eu_countries-rnewsernor


Ireland bans homophobic and antisemitic pastor in first use of exclusion powers
Steven L Anderson is already barred from most of Europe as well as South Africa, Canada and Jamaica
Alessio Perrone, Monday 13 May 2019
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ireland-pastor-ban-steven-anderson-lgbt-antisemitic-baptist-arizona-a8911236.html


"Anti-Gay Preachers Banned from UK". BBC Online. February 19, 2009. Retrieved July 14, 2019


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