Part 3d
Case Histories
The Byrne Family Case
Case Histories
The Byrne Family Case
There are numerous videos posted on YouTube showing Anderson screaming at congregants and visitors. Mocking them, taunting them, harassing them, belittling them, intimidating them, and so forth. In the case of one now former member of Anderson’s church by the name of Kris Byrne, all it took was discussing Anderson’s reprobate doctrine without Anderson’s knowledge (or presumably his permission). Some of the conversation took place via text message, wherein Kris stated he did not believe homosexuals were reprobate, and that Anderson was tampering with the gospel when he said they were not eligible for salvation.19 Anderson eventually gained access to the text messages, and to say he came unhinged would be an understatement.
What happened next was simply unbelievable. On June 26, 2016, Anderson stopped Kris in the parking lot of the church. Kris relates that Anderson came quick walking up to him in an aggressive manner, getting in Kris’s face and angrily saying, “I heard you’re talking crap about me behind my back,” much like a high school kid trying to pick a fight. Anderson went on saying, “look, you have two options. One, you turn around, you leave, and you never come back; or, you can come in and I’m going to confront you in front of the congregation.” The members view of the situation was that he had done nothing worthy of being kicked out of the church, and although Anderson was not being biblical in his dealing with church discipline, the member was willing to go before the church and let them decide. So Kris, his wife, and their four small children entered the church and took their seats. Little did Kris realize what Anderson had in mind.
After the church announcements had been read, and some hymns sung, Anderson entered the pulpit and immediately turned his sights on Kris, and it was not to bring the issue before the church as Kris thought. Instead, Anderson began to vilify Kris in front of not just the congregation, but in front of his wife and children as well. Anderson began to lie to his congregation by falsely accuse Kris of things Kris did not do, attempting to paint Kris as an intentional trouble maker who has been harassing other church members, and trying to divide the church. But no one had accused Kris of these things. They came completely out of Anderson’s imagination.20
Anderson begins yelling at Kris, and soon jumps up on a chair in the midst of the congregation and making derogatory remarks, calling Kris a coward, a Judas, an idiot, demanding Kris leave the church immediately, and actually ordering the men of the church to “pick him up and take him out!” At one point Anderson calms down his rhetoric for one brief moment and asks Kris to explain himself. But as soon as Kris begins, the moment passes and Anderson renewed his verbal abuse and accuses him of trying to take over the service.
With Anderson screaming and yelling at Kris, at his family, at his children, and with Kris’s children understandably upset and crying, Anderson attempts to make it appear as if Kris is resisting, and he again orders the men of the church to physically pick them up and remove them from the church. No sooner than he gave these orders, several men approach Kris and are ready to physically assault him on Anderson’s orders. Kris and his family, however, get up and leave the church. At this point, a visitor to Anderson’s church who is clearly upset at the proceedings, attempts to stand up for Kris. Upon doing so, however, Anderson turned on him as well, and kicks him out of the church as well while verbally abusing him too.
And even after Kris and his family have left, Anderson continues to rail about him, continues to make false accusations about him, etc. He goes on to encourage the congregation to come to him and tell him anytime they hear of anyone from the church talking about Anderson. Anderson’s version of, “if you hear something, say something.”21
Anderson’s obvious purpose for continuing his tirade against Kris and his family even after they left was to get the congregation worked up and turned against Kris and his family. This is what Anderson does. This is his modus operandi, his method of operation in dealing with those who cross him, whether in reality or just only in his own imagination. Here are just four more examples, out of many more similar cases..
What happened next was simply unbelievable. On June 26, 2016, Anderson stopped Kris in the parking lot of the church. Kris relates that Anderson came quick walking up to him in an aggressive manner, getting in Kris’s face and angrily saying, “I heard you’re talking crap about me behind my back,” much like a high school kid trying to pick a fight. Anderson went on saying, “look, you have two options. One, you turn around, you leave, and you never come back; or, you can come in and I’m going to confront you in front of the congregation.” The members view of the situation was that he had done nothing worthy of being kicked out of the church, and although Anderson was not being biblical in his dealing with church discipline, the member was willing to go before the church and let them decide. So Kris, his wife, and their four small children entered the church and took their seats. Little did Kris realize what Anderson had in mind.
After the church announcements had been read, and some hymns sung, Anderson entered the pulpit and immediately turned his sights on Kris, and it was not to bring the issue before the church as Kris thought. Instead, Anderson began to vilify Kris in front of not just the congregation, but in front of his wife and children as well. Anderson began to lie to his congregation by falsely accuse Kris of things Kris did not do, attempting to paint Kris as an intentional trouble maker who has been harassing other church members, and trying to divide the church. But no one had accused Kris of these things. They came completely out of Anderson’s imagination.20
Anderson begins yelling at Kris, and soon jumps up on a chair in the midst of the congregation and making derogatory remarks, calling Kris a coward, a Judas, an idiot, demanding Kris leave the church immediately, and actually ordering the men of the church to “pick him up and take him out!” At one point Anderson calms down his rhetoric for one brief moment and asks Kris to explain himself. But as soon as Kris begins, the moment passes and Anderson renewed his verbal abuse and accuses him of trying to take over the service.
With Anderson screaming and yelling at Kris, at his family, at his children, and with Kris’s children understandably upset and crying, Anderson attempts to make it appear as if Kris is resisting, and he again orders the men of the church to physically pick them up and remove them from the church. No sooner than he gave these orders, several men approach Kris and are ready to physically assault him on Anderson’s orders. Kris and his family, however, get up and leave the church. At this point, a visitor to Anderson’s church who is clearly upset at the proceedings, attempts to stand up for Kris. Upon doing so, however, Anderson turned on him as well, and kicks him out of the church as well while verbally abusing him too.
And even after Kris and his family have left, Anderson continues to rail about him, continues to make false accusations about him, etc. He goes on to encourage the congregation to come to him and tell him anytime they hear of anyone from the church talking about Anderson. Anderson’s version of, “if you hear something, say something.”21
Anderson’s obvious purpose for continuing his tirade against Kris and his family even after they left was to get the congregation worked up and turned against Kris and his family. This is what Anderson does. This is his modus operandi, his method of operation in dealing with those who cross him, whether in reality or just only in his own imagination. Here are just four more examples, out of many more similar cases..
The Carone Family Case22
While attending Steven Anderson’s Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, Arizona, Alyssa Farlow was introduced to Nathan Carone, a long-time friend of both Steven Anderson and Donnie Romero. Alyssa and Nathan became friends and eventually began dating. Everything was fine until they decided to get married. It was at that point that both Anderson and Romero began a campaign of hate designed to break the couple up.
Anderson could not sanction their marriage because Alyssa had been previously married. According to Alyssa her previous husband entered into an adulterous relationship with another woman, and divorced Alyssa to be with that woman. Although Scripture tells us that God hates divorce (Malachi 2:16), there are instances where God allows divorce, such as instances of sexual immorality (Matthew 5:31-32; 19:9), and in cases such as Alyssa described:
“13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. 15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.” (1 Corinthians 7:13-15)
When the unbelieving husband (such as Alyssa’s first husband) leaves the marriage (as he did), the wife (Alyssa) is to allow them to leave and she is no longer bound to her marriage. She is released, and free to remarry. But Anderson and Romero placed their own marriage restrictions over and above God’s word, and forbade Alyssa and Nathan’s marriage, and actively worked to prevent it. This demonstrates Anderson’s Pharisaical nature.
Amazingly, Anderson went so far as to call the Carone’s marriage adulterous, a crime for which Anderson believes there should be public executions. When one looks at Anderson’s own family, however, his gross hypocrisy quickly becomes apparent. For Anderson’s own parents divorced, and they both remarried. Yet does Anderson publicly condemn them? No. Does he call for their public execution? Of course not. Contrary to his publicly stated beliefs, he gives his parents a pass. He has excused their actual adultery, while condemning what he subjectively defines as adultery in the case of the Carone’s.
According to Alyssa, Steven Anderson and his followers began making disparaging remarks, and dragging their names through the mud, in an attempt to discredit them. Donnie Romero began calling them names, calling Alyssa, “Jezebel,” comparing her to the biblical Jezebel, a dangerously wicked seductress. He went on to refer to her children as illegitimate “bastards,” telling her he could not see how Nathan could be attracted to her, condemning her because she wears make-up, and both Anderson and Romero pulling out all the stops in trying to convince Nathan to stop seeing her.
When Alyssa and Nathan ignored Anderson and Romero and were married in spite of them, Anderson and Romero shunned them both.
Anderson could not sanction their marriage because Alyssa had been previously married. According to Alyssa her previous husband entered into an adulterous relationship with another woman, and divorced Alyssa to be with that woman. Although Scripture tells us that God hates divorce (Malachi 2:16), there are instances where God allows divorce, such as instances of sexual immorality (Matthew 5:31-32; 19:9), and in cases such as Alyssa described:
“13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. 15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.” (1 Corinthians 7:13-15)
When the unbelieving husband (such as Alyssa’s first husband) leaves the marriage (as he did), the wife (Alyssa) is to allow them to leave and she is no longer bound to her marriage. She is released, and free to remarry. But Anderson and Romero placed their own marriage restrictions over and above God’s word, and forbade Alyssa and Nathan’s marriage, and actively worked to prevent it. This demonstrates Anderson’s Pharisaical nature.
Amazingly, Anderson went so far as to call the Carone’s marriage adulterous, a crime for which Anderson believes there should be public executions. When one looks at Anderson’s own family, however, his gross hypocrisy quickly becomes apparent. For Anderson’s own parents divorced, and they both remarried. Yet does Anderson publicly condemn them? No. Does he call for their public execution? Of course not. Contrary to his publicly stated beliefs, he gives his parents a pass. He has excused their actual adultery, while condemning what he subjectively defines as adultery in the case of the Carone’s.
According to Alyssa, Steven Anderson and his followers began making disparaging remarks, and dragging their names through the mud, in an attempt to discredit them. Donnie Romero began calling them names, calling Alyssa, “Jezebel,” comparing her to the biblical Jezebel, a dangerously wicked seductress. He went on to refer to her children as illegitimate “bastards,” telling her he could not see how Nathan could be attracted to her, condemning her because she wears make-up, and both Anderson and Romero pulling out all the stops in trying to convince Nathan to stop seeing her.
When Alyssa and Nathan ignored Anderson and Romero and were married in spite of them, Anderson and Romero shunned them both.
The “Ashley & Kelley” Case23
The “Ashley & Kelley” case concerns two now former members of Anderson’s church with the names Ashley and Kelley. Apparently these two women became friends with the Edwards family who also attended Faithful Word Baptist Church.
The problem for Ashley and Kelley began when the Edwards family started to question one of Anderson’s teachings. This incurred the wrath of Steven Anderson and also his more devoted groupies. As the Edwards' began to experience the harassment that so many other have also experienced (and more on this below), so Ashley and Kelley also experienced harassment.
Both Ashley and Kelley had internet blogs where they shared their thoughts on various subjects. As “punishment” for their friendship and support of the Edwards family, both of their blogs were hacked and horrible things began appearing on them, always under Ashley and Kelley’s name, thus making it appear as if they themselves had written the blog entries.
Perhaps the most vindictive of the fake posts were on Ashley’s blog. In one of these posts, the hacker went to far as to post what appeared to be a suicide pact between Ashley, Kelley, and the Edwards family. The hacker tried to make it appear as if the suicide would take place on the fifth anniversary of the Heaven’s Gate cult suicide.
The problem for Ashley and Kelley began when the Edwards family started to question one of Anderson’s teachings. This incurred the wrath of Steven Anderson and also his more devoted groupies. As the Edwards' began to experience the harassment that so many other have also experienced (and more on this below), so Ashley and Kelley also experienced harassment.
Both Ashley and Kelley had internet blogs where they shared their thoughts on various subjects. As “punishment” for their friendship and support of the Edwards family, both of their blogs were hacked and horrible things began appearing on them, always under Ashley and Kelley’s name, thus making it appear as if they themselves had written the blog entries.
Perhaps the most vindictive of the fake posts were on Ashley’s blog. In one of these posts, the hacker went to far as to post what appeared to be a suicide pact between Ashley, Kelley, and the Edwards family. The hacker tried to make it appear as if the suicide would take place on the fifth anniversary of the Heaven’s Gate cult suicide.
Blog post allegedly made by “Ashley,” but actually made by a hacker believed to be a member of Faithful Word Baptist Church. The mention of the Edwards family supports this belief.
Another post allegedly made by “Ashley,” but actually posted by a hacker on her personal blog. The mention of the “Edwards family” and “Bro. David” (Edwards) supports the belief that the hacker was a member of Faithful Word Baptist Church.
Yet another post allegedly from “Ashley,” this time claiming she and her sister have entered into a suicide pact. This post was actually made by a member of Faithful Word Baptist Church who hacked Ashley’s personal blog. The content of this post demonstrates the perverted pleasure this hacker derives from causing others problems and pain.
Finally, the hacker posted anonymously to Ashley’s blog, in a post that is clearly a boast, going so far as to reveal they knew Ashley’s password. There is strong speculation among researchers as to the identity of the hacker. All evidence that points to this person is, however, circumstantial, and so they will not be named. At least not at this time.
The Edwards Family Case24
The “Edwards Family” mentioned in “The Ashley and Kelley Case” above is actually David and Helen Edwards and their then 12-year old daughter Iris. The problems for the Edwards family began when Steven Anderson started preaching his bare breasts doctrine to his congregation, telling them it was not only permissible for nursing mothers to bare their breasts during worship services, but also telling them not to cover themselves with a receiving blanket, nursing cover, or anything else lest they cause developmental or emotional damage to their babies.
Apparently some of the women of Anderson’s Faithful Word church were swayed by Anderson’s teaching as they began to openly nurse their babies with their breast(s) uncovered. Helen Edwards was naturally upset at this, as she did not want her family, particularly her 12-year old daughter, exposed to such a thing. When she spoke out about it on her personal blog (which Anderson had monitored), she was retaliated against. When David Edwards defended his wife, he too, and soon their daughter Iris as well, became the target of retaliation by Anderson’s congregation.
Not the entire congregation, although after running them out of the church Anderson made sure he had the congregation turned against them, and they were completely shunned and treated horribly.
Initially, Helen’s personal blog was hacked (just as Ashley and Kelley’s blogs were – see above), with several terrible blog posts and comments being posted on it. Then David’s blog was attacked, and finally a completely fake blog was created in Iris’s name, where the hacker posted several blog posts while pretending to be Iris herself.
David Edwards’ blog post below demonstrates the desperation the family was experiencing due to the harassment they were experiencing at the hands of Faithful Word Baptist Church.
Apparently some of the women of Anderson’s Faithful Word church were swayed by Anderson’s teaching as they began to openly nurse their babies with their breast(s) uncovered. Helen Edwards was naturally upset at this, as she did not want her family, particularly her 12-year old daughter, exposed to such a thing. When she spoke out about it on her personal blog (which Anderson had monitored), she was retaliated against. When David Edwards defended his wife, he too, and soon their daughter Iris as well, became the target of retaliation by Anderson’s congregation.
Not the entire congregation, although after running them out of the church Anderson made sure he had the congregation turned against them, and they were completely shunned and treated horribly.
Initially, Helen’s personal blog was hacked (just as Ashley and Kelley’s blogs were – see above), with several terrible blog posts and comments being posted on it. Then David’s blog was attacked, and finally a completely fake blog was created in Iris’s name, where the hacker posted several blog posts while pretending to be Iris herself.
David Edwards’ blog post below demonstrates the desperation the family was experiencing due to the harassment they were experiencing at the hands of Faithful Word Baptist Church.
Ashley responded in a positive manner to David Edwards, offering her support:
This, of course, placed Ashley and Kelley in directly in Faithful Word’s sights, and they too became the target of the church’s campaign of harassment (see the “Ashley and Kelley Case” above). Soon, the hacker began posting on David Edwards’ blog, pretending to be his daughter Iris:
This was followed by another comment, posted anonymously (likely the hacker, but possibly another Faithful Word member):
Please note there is no compassion, no attempt at either exhortation or reconciliation, no love or loving kindness of any kind. Just a “you deserve what you get” attitude. It was at this same time that the hacker started to harass 12-year old Iris by creating a fake blog under her name, and pretending to be her. Here are a few of the posts this person or persons made while pretending to be Iris:
That anyone, much less grown adults, attack and bully a young girl as these fine folks at Steven Anderson’s church did is simply beyond the pale. It is simply outrageous behavior on their part. As with the previous cases mentioned above, this too demonstrates the true nature of Steven Anderson and the New IFB.
The Berg Family Case25
The Berg family case is interesting to say the least, and revolves around some accusations against the Berg family made by Steven Anderson.
According to Steven Anderson, Paul Berg and his family were thrown out of Anderson’s church, Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, Arizona. Also according to Anderson, his reason for doing this was “perversion.” Anderson has explained that he investigated the situation “very thoroughly,” and that there were “four eye-witnesses to this sin.” Anderson further claims that Paul Berg’s son “molested a little girl that was like 8-years old,” that Paul Berg admitted this, that the boy was “15” and that he held her down and repeatedly shoved his hand down her pants against her will, while she told him to stop, and while other children from the church were spending the night at the Berg home. Anderson claims the boy admitted doing this. Anderson says “it’s disgusting, it’s incest, it’s pedophilia.” Anderson says, “I threw them out of the church and I turned this over to the police. I got rid of the problem. … let the police handle it, if they botch the case, whatever. It’s not my problem. You know, I gave them all the information that I had.”
Horrific what happened to this innocent little girl. What a monster she must have for a brother, and also for a father who allowed this all to go on. Steven Anderson has publicly stated, “There was also evidence from multiple witnesses of perversion on the part of Paul himself,” so there is little wonder and even less doubt that he allowed it to happen, and probably took part in it himself. At least, this is what Steven Anderson wants people to believe; and his statements both publicly written and publicly stated in a video and to his congregation naturally lead people to come to this conclusion. The problem is, however, none of it is true. It is all fantasy. Here is what actually happened.
The Pelota family (not their actual name) were good friends with the Berg family. Such good friends that when the Pelota family needed a place to live, the Berg’s brought them into their home. During the several weeks where the Pelota’s were staying with the Berg’s, the Berg’s 8-year old daughter mentioned that her brother had touched her bottom. Mrs. Berg questioned her daughter and was able to determine that all her son had done was literally touch is sisters bottom with his hand. That’s it. No groping or caressing or anything like that; and nothing overtly sexual. As it happened, however, Mrs. Pelota was present.
In spite of this revelation, the Pelota’s continued to maintain their friendship with the Berg’s, and continued to stay with them until they were able to get back on their feet financially. At one point Mrs. Pelota volunteered that she had been the victim of the sexual abuse several years previous at the hands of a family member. The two families got along well, and spent quite a bit of time together. It wasn’t long, however, that a problem arose between the Pelota’s and the Berg’s. Mrs. Pelota, as it turned out, had a bad habit of being judgmental of others, especially other women. She would constantly refer to other women as “whores” if they wore pants rather than dresses, or if their dresses did not meet Mrs. Pelota’s standards. If they wore make-up or earrings she called them whores. Her behavior continued even after the Pelota’s moved out of the Berg home and into their own house. To his credit, Mr. Berg did not sit idly by and allow this, but rather, he confronted her, and rebuked her on several occasions for her decidedly less than Christian behavior.
This resulted in a falling out between the Pelota’s and the Berg’s. Because of her sincere sisterly affection for Mrs. Pelota, Mrs. Berg took the falling out exceptionally hard. She repeatedly attempted to bring about a reconciliation between the two families, but was always rebuffed by Mrs. Pelota. This served to exacerbate Mrs. Berg’s grief over the matter to a point where the Berg’s 8-year old daughter took it upon herself to go to Mrs. Pelota and ask her to please be friends with mom again. During her visit at the Pelota home, Mrs. Pelota was able to surreptitiously begin recording her conversation with the young Berg girl, and she began asking the girl loaded questions such as, “Is your brother still molesting you?” Regardless of how the girl answered, she condemned her brother. Mrs. Pelota manipulated the young girl until she had a recording that would achieve a specific goal; and when she had that recording, she took it to Steven Anderson. Anderson listened to the recording, and asked the Pelota’s if they had witnessed anything. They responded yes, they had. Anderson then threw the Berg family out of the church, and turned the recording over to the Tempe police department. Child Protective Services (CPS) was also notified.
It should be noted here, that with regard to the recording secretly made by Mrs. Pelota, there are some who mistakenly believe it was perfectly legal. These folks should actually take some time and study Arizona law. Although it is perfectly legal to record anyone as long as one of the parties being recorded knows this; the law also states that it is legal when the speakers (in this case Mrs. Pelota and the 8-year old Berg girl) have “an expectation that the communication is not subject to interception under circumstances justifying the expectation” ( A.R.S. § 13-3001), but when the speaker’s justified expectation is non-existent it may not be legal (See State v. Hauss, 142 Ariz. 159, 164, Ariz. Ct. App. 1984). In other words, it may be legal to record an in-person conversation when that conversation occurs someplace where there is no real expectation of privacy such as in a public place. However, when the conversation occurs someplace where privacy is expected, violating that privacy can be found to be illegal, thus subjecting the violator to possible criminal prosecution.
Furthermore, under the Parents Bill of Rights as passed by the Arizona Legislature in 2010 (A.R.S. 1-601 / 1-602), establishes a broad rule of parents rights which includes the parents right to provided “written permission before any videos or voice recordings are made of their child, with certain exceptions (for example, security or surveillance of school property).” Therefore, the secret recording made surreptitiously by Mrs. Pelota while she manipulated and coerced the young Berg girl in an attempt to damage the Berg family may very well be illegal, and may very well be a felony.
And while it is granted that A.R.S. 1-601-B states specifically, “B. This state, any political subdivision of this state or any other governmental entity shall not infringe on these rights without demonstrating that the compelling governmental interest as applied to the child involved is of the highest order, is narrowly tailored and is not otherwise served by a less restrictive means”; it does not specifically limit A.R.S. 1-601 / 1-602 as applicable only to the government. And given the states dim view of non-family members surreptitiously recording children, a court may very well apply this law to Mrs. Pelota’s secret recording of Mr. Berg’s young daughter.
Additionally, in order to dispel another widely held myth regarding polygraph tests, Paul Berg voluntarily underwent a polygraph test in order to prove his innocence. Something Steven Anderson scoffed at and claimed the test was bought and therefore inadmissible. In one sense he is correct. Polygraphs are inadmissible in a criminal court case. However, since there is no criminal court case against Paul Berg, this is a moot point. On the other hand, polygraphs are perfectly admissible in a civil court case. And considering that Steven Anderson was presented with the findings of that polygraph which proved Paul Berg was innocent of the accusations being publicly set forth by Anderson, and Anderson chose to present those allegations publicly in spite of this, demonstrates a deliberate and intentional act of slander made by Steven Anderson against Paul Berg.
At any rate; both the police department and CPS began separate investigations into the matter. The Berg family was questioned, with both of the Berg girls being questioned extensively. Although Paul Berg himself was never the subject of any investigation, and never accused by the police or CPS of any criminal activity such as rape or incest, during their questioning the Berg girls were asked if their father had ever touched them inappropriately. Both responded with, “No.” The both investigations (police and CPS) were professionally done and both were thorough; and both concluded there was no wrong doing on the part of anyone in the Berg home. Touching his younger sister’s bottom while considered inappropriate and uncalled for, was considered to be nothing more than the actions of a curious boy who, while he should have known better, had acted in innocence. The investigations were closed and no charges were ever filed.
During all of this, Paul Berg was never told by Steven Anderson why he and his family were being thrown out of the church. Mr. Berg wrote a long letter to Steven Anderson explaining all that had happened, and even attempted to telephone Anderson. Finally Anderson allowed a brief two minute phone call. During that call, Mr. Berg repeatedly asked Steven Anderson what he was being accused of and why was he being thrown out of the church. Anderson repeatedly refused to tell him why, saying only, “You know. You know.” Mr. Berg protested his innocence of any wrong doing, and his assurance that he would be able to stand before Jesus knowing he had nothing to be thrown out of the church for. But Anderson would have none of it. In fact, he claims he recorded the two minute conversation with Mr. Berg, and then sent the transcription and also the letter Mr. Berg had written to a forensic statement analyst that had worked with the FBI. Anderson also claim he took the Berg girl’s statement and sent to the same statement analyst. He claims the statement analyst concluded that Mr. Berg was certainly guilty.
The problem with Anderson's statement here is that it too is untrue. There are two professional statement analysts in the that entire area of Arizona. Both were contacted, and both stated that there was no possible way to conclude any guilt based on the information provided by Steven Anderson, had he actually contacted them and provided said “evidence.” There was no chain of evidence protocol in place. Everything the analyst received would have been second hand from Steven Anderson. It is customary for the analyst to conduct the interviews himself, to take statements himself. Not receive them second or third hand, with all manner of evidence tampering or contamination possible. There was no way for the analyst to know if the letter submitted by Anderson was actually written by Berg, or if Anderson had tampered with it. There was no way for the analyst to know if Anderson actually transcribed the two minute telephone call accurately. And most importantly, there was no way for the analyst to know if Steven Anderson interviewed the victim properly or if he used leading questions to coerce the Berg girl into saying what he wanted her to say.
This last issue is the easiest to answer. Anderson did not use leading questions in his interview with the Berg girl. In fact, he didn’t use any questions because he never interviewed her. In fact, he never interviewed anyone in the Berg family. Every accusation made by Steven Anderson against Paul Berg and his son was based on the single, brief, and quite possibly illegally obtained secret recording made by Mrs. Pelota. Steven Anderson made absolutely no attempt to substantiate anything Mrs. Pelota said. Even after both CPS and the Tempe police investigators exonerated the Berg family of any wrong doing, and even after Mrs. Pelota, Mr. Pelota and their two children all admitted to the police and CPS that they had not actually witnessed anything at all, Steven Anderson still continued to spread these lies about Paul Berg and his son.
In fact, the Sunday following the expulsion of the Berg family from the church, just prior to that evenings sermon, Steven Anderson made it a point to let the congregation know that the Berg’s had been kicked out, and then he went into some detail regarding just why he had made this decision. Anderson titled his sermon that evening, “Thine Eye Shall Not Pity,” which he took from Deuteronomy 19:15-21. The irony of this should not escape anyone familiar with the situation. The passage read thus:
“15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established. 16 If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong; 17 Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the Lord, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days; 18 And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother; 19 Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you. 20 And those which remain shall hear, and fear, and shall henceforth commit no more any such evil among you. 21 And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.”
There are several points in this passage that related specifically to the Berg family situation. They are:
1. Accusations must be supported by two or three witnesses. This was met by the Pelota family. Mr. and Mrs. Pelota and their two children all claimed to be witnesses to the behavior addressed by the accusations.
2. If a false witness makes accusations against anyone, it is the responsibility of the head of the church (in this case Steven Anderson), to hear both sides of the story, and conduct a diligent and thorough investigate to determine the veracity of the accusation or if the accusations are false. Steven Anderson failed deliberately in this when he refused to tell Paul Berg what the accusations were, and when he refused to question anyone in the Berg family – including the child who was allegedly victimized. And he failed when he deliberately choose to accept the Pelota’s accusations without any question, and continued to accept the Pelota’s accusations against the Berg family even when the police department and CPS all determined the accusations to be false; and even after it was revealed that no one in the Pelota family had actually witnessed a single thing related to the accusations. And, last but not least:
3. When it is discovered the accuser (in this case the Pelota family) has born false witness and falsely accused someone in the church, the punishment that would have been required of the accused is to be applied to the false accuser. In this point Steven Anderson has also deliberately failed in that he kicked out the Berg family after they had been exonerated, and he continues to welcome the Pelota family even after it was proven they had falsely accused the Berg’s. It should go without saying that in deliberately refusing to obey God’s word, placed Steven Anderson is in rebellion against God. His continual refusal to repent demonstrates that his rebellion against God continues even to this day, two years after his unbiblical actions against the Berg’s.
Both the Pelota’s and Steven Anderson not only made slanderous and libelous statements about Paul Berg, defaming him repeatedly to hundreds of people and damaging his reputation with these people, and exposing him to all manner of retribution at their hand; but, they also involved children. Without any regard for the truth, without any regard for the physical safety, or the psychological well-being of these children, the Pelota’s and Steven Anderson released false information regarding these children and sexual perversion to hundreds of people, and even thousands of people. Follow the progression. Mrs. Pelota secretly records Paul Berg’s little girl, asking her manipulative questions of a sexual nature, coercing her into saying what Mrs. Pelota wanted her to say. And remember, there is no evidence that Mrs. Pelota did not edit that recording in order to make that little girl say something completely different than what she actually said. Then, Mrs. Pelota tells her family about it. Now the spreading of lies begins. Then she presents Steven Anderson with the secret recording and with her false accusations about the Berg’s as well. Anderson tells at least his wife and then hands the recording (or a copy of it) over to the police and CPS. The number of people who have heard these false accusations up to this point have grown to at least a dozen or more. Then Anderson spreads the false accusations to his congregation, thus spreading the lies to the several hundred in attendance. Then, Anderson makes a video during which he repeats these false accusations and uploads the video to YouTube, makes it public, and it can be seen anyone who simply clicks on the video. To date the video, along with the false accusations, has been seen by more than eight thousand people. In addition to this, Anderson repeats the false accusations in the comment section, and adds even more false accusations, where they are publicly available for anyone to read, at any time, from anywhere in the world.
Although the state of Arizona had placed a statute of limitations of one year on the civil prosecution of defamation cases concerning slander and libel, it could potentially still be possible for Mr. Berg to sue Steven Anderson for slander and libel based on the video Anderson published to YouTube. Since he slanders Paul Berg and his family in the video, and writes libelous statements about them in the comments section, and he knowingly keeps the video and comments posted publicly for all to see even after knowing the Berg’s were completely exonerated and that his comments are nothing more than defamatory lies the argument could be made that Anderson is continuing to intentionally defame the Berg family through slander and libel even to this very day.
Of course, as Steven Anderson goes, so goes his congregation and the rest of Anderson’s New IFB movement. Nowhere is this more evident than in the comment section of Anderson’s anti-Paul Berg video. Not only does Anderson continue to defame the Berg’s in the comment section, but so do many others, both from Anderson’s Faithful Word church, but also from people connected to other New IFB churches. Not only did Tommy McMurtry and Bruce Mejia, both of whom pastor New IFB churches in Illinois and California respectively, chime in and make comments parroting what Anderson said; but so did McMurtry’s wife, a member of a New IFB church in Texas, and more, all making comments based on the false accusations made by Anderson in his video.
Fortunately for Steven Anderson, Paul Berg is a Christian, and as such he has forgiven Anderson, and does not seek any compensatory damages for Anderson’s defamation of him. All he wants is Anderson to apologize for what he has done, and repent of his sin. If only Anderson could and would exhibit the Christ-likeness that Paul Berg has exhibited in this situation. If only. Until he does, however, Anderson will continue to spread false accusations about people, lying about them, defaming them, mocking them, and more, and exhibiting that he is far more like the world than like the Lord.
According to Steven Anderson, Paul Berg and his family were thrown out of Anderson’s church, Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, Arizona. Also according to Anderson, his reason for doing this was “perversion.” Anderson has explained that he investigated the situation “very thoroughly,” and that there were “four eye-witnesses to this sin.” Anderson further claims that Paul Berg’s son “molested a little girl that was like 8-years old,” that Paul Berg admitted this, that the boy was “15” and that he held her down and repeatedly shoved his hand down her pants against her will, while she told him to stop, and while other children from the church were spending the night at the Berg home. Anderson claims the boy admitted doing this. Anderson says “it’s disgusting, it’s incest, it’s pedophilia.” Anderson says, “I threw them out of the church and I turned this over to the police. I got rid of the problem. … let the police handle it, if they botch the case, whatever. It’s not my problem. You know, I gave them all the information that I had.”
Horrific what happened to this innocent little girl. What a monster she must have for a brother, and also for a father who allowed this all to go on. Steven Anderson has publicly stated, “There was also evidence from multiple witnesses of perversion on the part of Paul himself,” so there is little wonder and even less doubt that he allowed it to happen, and probably took part in it himself. At least, this is what Steven Anderson wants people to believe; and his statements both publicly written and publicly stated in a video and to his congregation naturally lead people to come to this conclusion. The problem is, however, none of it is true. It is all fantasy. Here is what actually happened.
The Pelota family (not their actual name) were good friends with the Berg family. Such good friends that when the Pelota family needed a place to live, the Berg’s brought them into their home. During the several weeks where the Pelota’s were staying with the Berg’s, the Berg’s 8-year old daughter mentioned that her brother had touched her bottom. Mrs. Berg questioned her daughter and was able to determine that all her son had done was literally touch is sisters bottom with his hand. That’s it. No groping or caressing or anything like that; and nothing overtly sexual. As it happened, however, Mrs. Pelota was present.
In spite of this revelation, the Pelota’s continued to maintain their friendship with the Berg’s, and continued to stay with them until they were able to get back on their feet financially. At one point Mrs. Pelota volunteered that she had been the victim of the sexual abuse several years previous at the hands of a family member. The two families got along well, and spent quite a bit of time together. It wasn’t long, however, that a problem arose between the Pelota’s and the Berg’s. Mrs. Pelota, as it turned out, had a bad habit of being judgmental of others, especially other women. She would constantly refer to other women as “whores” if they wore pants rather than dresses, or if their dresses did not meet Mrs. Pelota’s standards. If they wore make-up or earrings she called them whores. Her behavior continued even after the Pelota’s moved out of the Berg home and into their own house. To his credit, Mr. Berg did not sit idly by and allow this, but rather, he confronted her, and rebuked her on several occasions for her decidedly less than Christian behavior.
This resulted in a falling out between the Pelota’s and the Berg’s. Because of her sincere sisterly affection for Mrs. Pelota, Mrs. Berg took the falling out exceptionally hard. She repeatedly attempted to bring about a reconciliation between the two families, but was always rebuffed by Mrs. Pelota. This served to exacerbate Mrs. Berg’s grief over the matter to a point where the Berg’s 8-year old daughter took it upon herself to go to Mrs. Pelota and ask her to please be friends with mom again. During her visit at the Pelota home, Mrs. Pelota was able to surreptitiously begin recording her conversation with the young Berg girl, and she began asking the girl loaded questions such as, “Is your brother still molesting you?” Regardless of how the girl answered, she condemned her brother. Mrs. Pelota manipulated the young girl until she had a recording that would achieve a specific goal; and when she had that recording, she took it to Steven Anderson. Anderson listened to the recording, and asked the Pelota’s if they had witnessed anything. They responded yes, they had. Anderson then threw the Berg family out of the church, and turned the recording over to the Tempe police department. Child Protective Services (CPS) was also notified.
It should be noted here, that with regard to the recording secretly made by Mrs. Pelota, there are some who mistakenly believe it was perfectly legal. These folks should actually take some time and study Arizona law. Although it is perfectly legal to record anyone as long as one of the parties being recorded knows this; the law also states that it is legal when the speakers (in this case Mrs. Pelota and the 8-year old Berg girl) have “an expectation that the communication is not subject to interception under circumstances justifying the expectation” ( A.R.S. § 13-3001), but when the speaker’s justified expectation is non-existent it may not be legal (See State v. Hauss, 142 Ariz. 159, 164, Ariz. Ct. App. 1984). In other words, it may be legal to record an in-person conversation when that conversation occurs someplace where there is no real expectation of privacy such as in a public place. However, when the conversation occurs someplace where privacy is expected, violating that privacy can be found to be illegal, thus subjecting the violator to possible criminal prosecution.
Furthermore, under the Parents Bill of Rights as passed by the Arizona Legislature in 2010 (A.R.S. 1-601 / 1-602), establishes a broad rule of parents rights which includes the parents right to provided “written permission before any videos or voice recordings are made of their child, with certain exceptions (for example, security or surveillance of school property).” Therefore, the secret recording made surreptitiously by Mrs. Pelota while she manipulated and coerced the young Berg girl in an attempt to damage the Berg family may very well be illegal, and may very well be a felony.
And while it is granted that A.R.S. 1-601-B states specifically, “B. This state, any political subdivision of this state or any other governmental entity shall not infringe on these rights without demonstrating that the compelling governmental interest as applied to the child involved is of the highest order, is narrowly tailored and is not otherwise served by a less restrictive means”; it does not specifically limit A.R.S. 1-601 / 1-602 as applicable only to the government. And given the states dim view of non-family members surreptitiously recording children, a court may very well apply this law to Mrs. Pelota’s secret recording of Mr. Berg’s young daughter.
Additionally, in order to dispel another widely held myth regarding polygraph tests, Paul Berg voluntarily underwent a polygraph test in order to prove his innocence. Something Steven Anderson scoffed at and claimed the test was bought and therefore inadmissible. In one sense he is correct. Polygraphs are inadmissible in a criminal court case. However, since there is no criminal court case against Paul Berg, this is a moot point. On the other hand, polygraphs are perfectly admissible in a civil court case. And considering that Steven Anderson was presented with the findings of that polygraph which proved Paul Berg was innocent of the accusations being publicly set forth by Anderson, and Anderson chose to present those allegations publicly in spite of this, demonstrates a deliberate and intentional act of slander made by Steven Anderson against Paul Berg.
At any rate; both the police department and CPS began separate investigations into the matter. The Berg family was questioned, with both of the Berg girls being questioned extensively. Although Paul Berg himself was never the subject of any investigation, and never accused by the police or CPS of any criminal activity such as rape or incest, during their questioning the Berg girls were asked if their father had ever touched them inappropriately. Both responded with, “No.” The both investigations (police and CPS) were professionally done and both were thorough; and both concluded there was no wrong doing on the part of anyone in the Berg home. Touching his younger sister’s bottom while considered inappropriate and uncalled for, was considered to be nothing more than the actions of a curious boy who, while he should have known better, had acted in innocence. The investigations were closed and no charges were ever filed.
During all of this, Paul Berg was never told by Steven Anderson why he and his family were being thrown out of the church. Mr. Berg wrote a long letter to Steven Anderson explaining all that had happened, and even attempted to telephone Anderson. Finally Anderson allowed a brief two minute phone call. During that call, Mr. Berg repeatedly asked Steven Anderson what he was being accused of and why was he being thrown out of the church. Anderson repeatedly refused to tell him why, saying only, “You know. You know.” Mr. Berg protested his innocence of any wrong doing, and his assurance that he would be able to stand before Jesus knowing he had nothing to be thrown out of the church for. But Anderson would have none of it. In fact, he claims he recorded the two minute conversation with Mr. Berg, and then sent the transcription and also the letter Mr. Berg had written to a forensic statement analyst that had worked with the FBI. Anderson also claim he took the Berg girl’s statement and sent to the same statement analyst. He claims the statement analyst concluded that Mr. Berg was certainly guilty.
The problem with Anderson's statement here is that it too is untrue. There are two professional statement analysts in the that entire area of Arizona. Both were contacted, and both stated that there was no possible way to conclude any guilt based on the information provided by Steven Anderson, had he actually contacted them and provided said “evidence.” There was no chain of evidence protocol in place. Everything the analyst received would have been second hand from Steven Anderson. It is customary for the analyst to conduct the interviews himself, to take statements himself. Not receive them second or third hand, with all manner of evidence tampering or contamination possible. There was no way for the analyst to know if the letter submitted by Anderson was actually written by Berg, or if Anderson had tampered with it. There was no way for the analyst to know if Anderson actually transcribed the two minute telephone call accurately. And most importantly, there was no way for the analyst to know if Steven Anderson interviewed the victim properly or if he used leading questions to coerce the Berg girl into saying what he wanted her to say.
This last issue is the easiest to answer. Anderson did not use leading questions in his interview with the Berg girl. In fact, he didn’t use any questions because he never interviewed her. In fact, he never interviewed anyone in the Berg family. Every accusation made by Steven Anderson against Paul Berg and his son was based on the single, brief, and quite possibly illegally obtained secret recording made by Mrs. Pelota. Steven Anderson made absolutely no attempt to substantiate anything Mrs. Pelota said. Even after both CPS and the Tempe police investigators exonerated the Berg family of any wrong doing, and even after Mrs. Pelota, Mr. Pelota and their two children all admitted to the police and CPS that they had not actually witnessed anything at all, Steven Anderson still continued to spread these lies about Paul Berg and his son.
In fact, the Sunday following the expulsion of the Berg family from the church, just prior to that evenings sermon, Steven Anderson made it a point to let the congregation know that the Berg’s had been kicked out, and then he went into some detail regarding just why he had made this decision. Anderson titled his sermon that evening, “Thine Eye Shall Not Pity,” which he took from Deuteronomy 19:15-21. The irony of this should not escape anyone familiar with the situation. The passage read thus:
“15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established. 16 If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong; 17 Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the Lord, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days; 18 And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother; 19 Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you. 20 And those which remain shall hear, and fear, and shall henceforth commit no more any such evil among you. 21 And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.”
There are several points in this passage that related specifically to the Berg family situation. They are:
1. Accusations must be supported by two or three witnesses. This was met by the Pelota family. Mr. and Mrs. Pelota and their two children all claimed to be witnesses to the behavior addressed by the accusations.
2. If a false witness makes accusations against anyone, it is the responsibility of the head of the church (in this case Steven Anderson), to hear both sides of the story, and conduct a diligent and thorough investigate to determine the veracity of the accusation or if the accusations are false. Steven Anderson failed deliberately in this when he refused to tell Paul Berg what the accusations were, and when he refused to question anyone in the Berg family – including the child who was allegedly victimized. And he failed when he deliberately choose to accept the Pelota’s accusations without any question, and continued to accept the Pelota’s accusations against the Berg family even when the police department and CPS all determined the accusations to be false; and even after it was revealed that no one in the Pelota family had actually witnessed a single thing related to the accusations. And, last but not least:
3. When it is discovered the accuser (in this case the Pelota family) has born false witness and falsely accused someone in the church, the punishment that would have been required of the accused is to be applied to the false accuser. In this point Steven Anderson has also deliberately failed in that he kicked out the Berg family after they had been exonerated, and he continues to welcome the Pelota family even after it was proven they had falsely accused the Berg’s. It should go without saying that in deliberately refusing to obey God’s word, placed Steven Anderson is in rebellion against God. His continual refusal to repent demonstrates that his rebellion against God continues even to this day, two years after his unbiblical actions against the Berg’s.
Both the Pelota’s and Steven Anderson not only made slanderous and libelous statements about Paul Berg, defaming him repeatedly to hundreds of people and damaging his reputation with these people, and exposing him to all manner of retribution at their hand; but, they also involved children. Without any regard for the truth, without any regard for the physical safety, or the psychological well-being of these children, the Pelota’s and Steven Anderson released false information regarding these children and sexual perversion to hundreds of people, and even thousands of people. Follow the progression. Mrs. Pelota secretly records Paul Berg’s little girl, asking her manipulative questions of a sexual nature, coercing her into saying what Mrs. Pelota wanted her to say. And remember, there is no evidence that Mrs. Pelota did not edit that recording in order to make that little girl say something completely different than what she actually said. Then, Mrs. Pelota tells her family about it. Now the spreading of lies begins. Then she presents Steven Anderson with the secret recording and with her false accusations about the Berg’s as well. Anderson tells at least his wife and then hands the recording (or a copy of it) over to the police and CPS. The number of people who have heard these false accusations up to this point have grown to at least a dozen or more. Then Anderson spreads the false accusations to his congregation, thus spreading the lies to the several hundred in attendance. Then, Anderson makes a video during which he repeats these false accusations and uploads the video to YouTube, makes it public, and it can be seen anyone who simply clicks on the video. To date the video, along with the false accusations, has been seen by more than eight thousand people. In addition to this, Anderson repeats the false accusations in the comment section, and adds even more false accusations, where they are publicly available for anyone to read, at any time, from anywhere in the world.
Although the state of Arizona had placed a statute of limitations of one year on the civil prosecution of defamation cases concerning slander and libel, it could potentially still be possible for Mr. Berg to sue Steven Anderson for slander and libel based on the video Anderson published to YouTube. Since he slanders Paul Berg and his family in the video, and writes libelous statements about them in the comments section, and he knowingly keeps the video and comments posted publicly for all to see even after knowing the Berg’s were completely exonerated and that his comments are nothing more than defamatory lies the argument could be made that Anderson is continuing to intentionally defame the Berg family through slander and libel even to this very day.
Of course, as Steven Anderson goes, so goes his congregation and the rest of Anderson’s New IFB movement. Nowhere is this more evident than in the comment section of Anderson’s anti-Paul Berg video. Not only does Anderson continue to defame the Berg’s in the comment section, but so do many others, both from Anderson’s Faithful Word church, but also from people connected to other New IFB churches. Not only did Tommy McMurtry and Bruce Mejia, both of whom pastor New IFB churches in Illinois and California respectively, chime in and make comments parroting what Anderson said; but so did McMurtry’s wife, a member of a New IFB church in Texas, and more, all making comments based on the false accusations made by Anderson in his video.
Fortunately for Steven Anderson, Paul Berg is a Christian, and as such he has forgiven Anderson, and does not seek any compensatory damages for Anderson’s defamation of him. All he wants is Anderson to apologize for what he has done, and repent of his sin. If only Anderson could and would exhibit the Christ-likeness that Paul Berg has exhibited in this situation. If only. Until he does, however, Anderson will continue to spread false accusations about people, lying about them, defaming them, mocking them, and more, and exhibiting that he is far more like the world than like the Lord.
The Jeff Durbin Case26
In 2018, Steven Anderson, for some reason, decided to go after Pastor Jeff Durbin of Apologia Church in Tempe, Arizona. While the reasons behind Anderson attacks on Pastor Durbin are unknown, it is likely they come from Durbin’s association with Dr. James White, someone who has publicly taken Anderson to task for his false teaching. As is normal for Anderson when someone calls him out as a result of his false teaching, Anderson immediately attacks both them, and their family, and their associates, via YouTube videos wherein Anderson will pull out all the stops in his attacks. This includes tossing the truth in the trash when it conflicts with Anderson preconceived ideas about a person. His attacks on Pastor Durbin are no exception.
To give a brief and necessary background on this subject, prior to the incident we are about to look at, Steven Anderson had already publicly attacked and slandered not only Pastor Durbin (calling him a drunk), but also his wife (calling her a drunk as well), and his church (calling it a flop, in spite of its ten year – at the time – history, and its remarkable growth). With that being said, Steven Anderson next sought out Pastor Durbin, finally engaging with him in a Facebook conversation. A conversation, I might add, that Anderson himself copied and pasted in its entirety in a blog post on Anderson’s own personal blog.
In his conversation with Pastor Durbin, Anderson begins by stating what is ostensibly his purpose in contacting Durbin. Anderson writes, “I just wanted to ask you about your discharge from the Marine Corps. I wanted to give you a chance to give your side. Apparently you were discharged for homosexuality?” Notice Anderson does not actually ask a question here, but rather presents a statement.
Pastor Durbin then responded to Anderson’s statement in a lengthy, but not overly so, response, which he breaks down into three sections. First, pastor Durbin reminds Anderson that bearing false witness is a sin. This is a response to Anderson’s previous attacks against Durbin, his wife, and his church as noted above. Second, Pastor Durbin responds to Anderson’s statement that he was “apparently...discharged for homosexuality.” Durbin’s response is that he has never been a homosexual. This response answers Anderson’s statement very specifically. Third, although he is under no obligation to do so, Pastor Durbin explains the actual circumstances surrounding his discharge.
Steven Anderson, however, soon begins to show his true colors, and the actual reason for contacting Pastor Durbin as he ignores everything Durbin has told him, and begins to badger him relentlessly. He asks Durbin six times, specifically, if he was discharged from the Marine Corps for telling his drill instructor he was a homosexual. Anderson goes on an additional three times where he states this to be a fact rather than a question. Anderson is obviously not interested in the truth here, but rather, he is only interested in manipulating Durbin into a “gotcha” moment that will support the conclusion Anderson had settled on before he even engaged Durbin in conversation. Even after Pastor Durbin tells him a second time, again specifically, that he was not discharged for telling his drill instructor that he was a homosexual, Anderson goes on to ask him an additional three times, and states it as a fact twice more in addition to this.
Jeff Durbin’s patience during this conversation is both remarkable and evidence of his Holy Spirit born humility. Anderson, on the other hand, is relentlessly obsessed (if not demonically possessed) in his badgering of Pastor Durbin. Anderson then ends the conversation with yet more false witness when he accuses Pastor Durbin of engaging in a “scam.” Steven Anderson isn’t done, however. Not by a long shot. Soon after his Facebook attack on Jeff Durbin, Anderson presented a sermon to his congregation regarding demon possessed preachers, wherein he attempts to prove (although he fails miserably) that Jeff Durbin is demon possessed. Talk about irrationally obsessed! So obsessed that during this fifty-eight minute sermon Anderson devotes an entire thirteen and a half minutes to Pastor Durbins alleged homosexuality and discharge from the Marine Corps.
Anderson begins his rant (rant is really the only word that can describe this) by stating as fact that, “Jeff Durbin joined the United States Marine Corps, and then told his drill instructor that he was a homosexual. Jeff Durbin told his drill instructor in the U.S. Marine Corps that he was a homosexual, and he was discharged a couple weeks later.” Anderson goes on, saying, “Now I confronted him about this. … I finally got hold of him on Facebook, and I confronted him about this thing of him telling his drill instructor that he was a homosexual and being discharged from the military and basically he wrote me this super long wall of text just snowing me with all this irrelevant information.” As we’ve already seen, this is a bald faced lie. Nothing in Pastor Durbin’s response was irrelevant, in fact, he specifically answered Anderson’s claim that he was discharged for being a homosexual, by stating very clearly that he had never been a homosexual.
Anderson then goes on to tell his congregation, “Hey, I had two witnesses. I got this out of the mouth of two first hand witnesses, and was given documentation of it!” Again, this is demonstrably a lie. Given Anderson’s track record, if he actually had two first hand witnesses to Durbin’s discharge he would have trotted them out long before this. To date, he has failed to produce any evidence of the existence of these so-called witnesses. Additionally, why would he even accept as true anyone’s claim that Pastor Durbin was discharged for homosexuality, especially without knowing these so-called witnesses? And lastly, Anderson claims he was given documentation of Pastor Durbin being discharged for homosexuality. Again, this is not only a lie, but it is impossible. The only documentation that would be available to Steven Anderson regarding Jeff Durbin’s military service would be his DD form 214; which, by the way, is available on the internet, and it says nothing other than he was discharged fourteen days after he started in the Marines. That’s it. And given there are any number of legitimate reasons for this happening, not the least of which is the reason Pastor Durbin gave to Steven Anderson, there is no way to truthfully say that Durbin’s DD-214 documents he was discharged for being a homosexual.
Anderson goes on, “but it’s funny in this giant wall of text he never one time did he deny tel..so then I just said, ‘look, it’s a simple question, are you denying telling the drill instructor that you’re a homosexual?’ ‘well, I’m not gonna answer any more questions, and blah, blah, blah.’ I asked him like five times and he won’t answer, he never will deny it, because it’s true.” Except that this is yet another lie Steven Anderson has told his congregation, as Durbin has already specifically told Anderson that he was not discharged for being a homosexual. Twice. But the truth does not matter to Steven Anderson, and he proves this by then saying, “this is the story, and it’s confirmed [no it isn’t], and he’s not denying it [yes he did, twice]. And it’s out of the mouth of two witnesses [he continues to fail to produce these witnesses]. He said to the drill instructor that he’s a sodomite [bald-faced lie]. That he’s a homo [a lie]. And the drill instructor basically demanded that he prove that [and yet another lie]. And basically, as a result, he got that reputation for being a sodomite [Anderson can’t stop lying at this point], and so he was persecuted and then that led to his discharge a few weeks later.” One lie after another lie, after another lie, after another. This is standard Steven Anderson fare.
And he continues to lie throughout his rant. Even after pulling out a printed copy of the conversation he had with Pastor Durbin, and staring at it, and reading it to himself, he continues to misrepresent Pastor Durbin, and continue in his lying spree. “This is not something from his past that he repented of an forsook” Anderson says. But there was nothing for Durbin to repent of! Anderson just can’t accept that. It is as if Durbin has to be a homosexual in order for Anderson’s world to set aright at this point. He literally begins ranting, so much so that one can almost see the spittle flying from his lips as he goes on like a mad man. “He’s lying!” Anderson says, “and sending me this deceptive wall of text, this non-denial! … and won’t admit the simple fact that he told his drill instructor that he was a homo! He won’t admit that even though I asked him five, six times!” And yet, Durbin did respond, and he denied it twice; both time very clearly, very specifically, and very much ignored by Anderson.
Anderson continues, “I said look, I’m giving you one more chance, did you tell the drill instructor that you’re a homo? … I ask him five, six times, it’s just this wall of text about, ‘oh, you don’t understand, you know, I left voluntarily.’ yeah, we know that you were trying to get out of the Marine Corps ’cause you couldn’t cut the mustard.” An interesting comment coming from someone who was never man enough to sign up. Pastor Durbin may not have stayed in, but at least he had enough backbone to try. Anderson goes on, “But that’s not the point, okay? … and then finally I said, ‘Okay, last chance.’ I said, ‘Let’s try this one more time. Last chance. Are you denying you told the drill instructor that you were a homosexual?’ … I mean, you know, I asked him every..six different ways from someway..Sunday, he won’t deny it.” And yet again, Anderson has lied to his congregation. If anyone in his congregation had bothered to read Anderson’s blog, they would easily and quickly see that Durbin denied Anderson’s false allegations not once, but twice.
And if anyone bother’s to look at Anderson’s blog article about this, they will see something else that is very interesting (and which relates directly to the above “Berg Family Case”), and that is the analysis done of Jeff Durbin’s written responses to Steven Anderson during their Facebook conversation. They were not done by a professional statement analyst, but rather by Anderson’s wife Zsuzsanna. At the beginning of the blog post, Anderson wrote, “Disclosure: This analysis was done by the wife of Steven Anderson, while carefully following principle. Still, the reader should bear in mind that there could be bias present on the part of the analyst in favor of Steven Anderson that cannot be fully overcome.” Could be bias? Hmmmm? Let’s see. According to Zsuzsanna Anderson’s “analysis” of Jeff Durbin’s written responses to Steven Anderson’s badgering, Pastor Durbin’s responses of, “I was absolutely NEVER kicked out of the Marines for being a homosexual. I never have been a homosexual.”, about this response, Zsuzsanna writes, “This is not a reliable denial. … The original question asked of the subject was, ‘Apparently you were discharged for homosexuality?’ In his ‘denial,’ the subject changes ‘discharged’ to ‘kicked out.’ This begs the question whether the subject has a different internal definition of discharged vs. kicked out. … The unusual sentence structure is noted, with ‘never’ coming before ‘have.’ Using ‘never’ allows the subject to avoid saying ‘I have not been..’ As stated above, never is vague in time and thus not reliable.”
There you have it folks. Using the common verbiage of “kicked out” rather than “discharge” (which is common when referring to someone involuntarily discharged as Anderson is doing) is some form of avoidance; and saying he was not kicked out for being a homosexual and has never been a homosexual” is “not a reliable denial.” It is painfully obvious that the truth matters not to either Steven Anderson nor his wife, as both had it clearly established in their minds that Jeff Durbin was guilty as charged by Steven Anderson, regardless of the fact that Anderson has no proof, regardless of the fact that the charges leveled by Steven Anderson were denied by the one person who would have knowledge of this.
But Steven Anderson was determined to slander and smear Jeff Durbin. This is what he set out do to, and this is what he did. In fact, Anderson has been so determined to slander and smear Pastor Durbin, that he has produced a full dozen anti-Durbin videos that he has posted publicly on YouTube. Naturally, Anderson’s actions have resulted in several additional anti-Durbin videos being posted to YouTube by New IFB’ers “Ben the Baptist,” “The New IFB,” and others; as well as a plethora of anti-Durbin hate speech posted by New IFB’ers in the comments sections of these videos. Comments such as:
william graw
And who says "Christians won't gleefully take the mark of the Beast". Durtbin is the drum major marching christians [sic] to Hell.
Evangelist Baptist John Worley
Never heard of the lieing [sic] bastard. Jeff until recently. Skinnky [sic] jean wearing sissy
Bill Macgregor
Faggy voice and gestures, thumb ring, queer necklace, tattoos, beard, all go together.
FBG Custom Auto Lighting
Bill Macgregor can’t forget the V neck. How can someone dress so ridiculous and think God approves
Pastor Durbin’s good friend, Dr. James White, who is an Elder and the “Scholar in Residence” at Durbin’s Apologia Church, has fared about as well as Pastor Durbin, with more than a dozen videos condemning and slandering Dr. White posted to YouTube by Steven Anderson and New IFB’ers “Ben the Baptist, Jason Robinson, Joe Major, Paul Niven, Paul Wittenberger, and more. And, of course, the innumerable New IFB comments that slander Dr. White and say all manner of vile things about him.27
To give a brief and necessary background on this subject, prior to the incident we are about to look at, Steven Anderson had already publicly attacked and slandered not only Pastor Durbin (calling him a drunk), but also his wife (calling her a drunk as well), and his church (calling it a flop, in spite of its ten year – at the time – history, and its remarkable growth). With that being said, Steven Anderson next sought out Pastor Durbin, finally engaging with him in a Facebook conversation. A conversation, I might add, that Anderson himself copied and pasted in its entirety in a blog post on Anderson’s own personal blog.
In his conversation with Pastor Durbin, Anderson begins by stating what is ostensibly his purpose in contacting Durbin. Anderson writes, “I just wanted to ask you about your discharge from the Marine Corps. I wanted to give you a chance to give your side. Apparently you were discharged for homosexuality?” Notice Anderson does not actually ask a question here, but rather presents a statement.
Pastor Durbin then responded to Anderson’s statement in a lengthy, but not overly so, response, which he breaks down into three sections. First, pastor Durbin reminds Anderson that bearing false witness is a sin. This is a response to Anderson’s previous attacks against Durbin, his wife, and his church as noted above. Second, Pastor Durbin responds to Anderson’s statement that he was “apparently...discharged for homosexuality.” Durbin’s response is that he has never been a homosexual. This response answers Anderson’s statement very specifically. Third, although he is under no obligation to do so, Pastor Durbin explains the actual circumstances surrounding his discharge.
Steven Anderson, however, soon begins to show his true colors, and the actual reason for contacting Pastor Durbin as he ignores everything Durbin has told him, and begins to badger him relentlessly. He asks Durbin six times, specifically, if he was discharged from the Marine Corps for telling his drill instructor he was a homosexual. Anderson goes on an additional three times where he states this to be a fact rather than a question. Anderson is obviously not interested in the truth here, but rather, he is only interested in manipulating Durbin into a “gotcha” moment that will support the conclusion Anderson had settled on before he even engaged Durbin in conversation. Even after Pastor Durbin tells him a second time, again specifically, that he was not discharged for telling his drill instructor that he was a homosexual, Anderson goes on to ask him an additional three times, and states it as a fact twice more in addition to this.
Jeff Durbin’s patience during this conversation is both remarkable and evidence of his Holy Spirit born humility. Anderson, on the other hand, is relentlessly obsessed (if not demonically possessed) in his badgering of Pastor Durbin. Anderson then ends the conversation with yet more false witness when he accuses Pastor Durbin of engaging in a “scam.” Steven Anderson isn’t done, however. Not by a long shot. Soon after his Facebook attack on Jeff Durbin, Anderson presented a sermon to his congregation regarding demon possessed preachers, wherein he attempts to prove (although he fails miserably) that Jeff Durbin is demon possessed. Talk about irrationally obsessed! So obsessed that during this fifty-eight minute sermon Anderson devotes an entire thirteen and a half minutes to Pastor Durbins alleged homosexuality and discharge from the Marine Corps.
Anderson begins his rant (rant is really the only word that can describe this) by stating as fact that, “Jeff Durbin joined the United States Marine Corps, and then told his drill instructor that he was a homosexual. Jeff Durbin told his drill instructor in the U.S. Marine Corps that he was a homosexual, and he was discharged a couple weeks later.” Anderson goes on, saying, “Now I confronted him about this. … I finally got hold of him on Facebook, and I confronted him about this thing of him telling his drill instructor that he was a homosexual and being discharged from the military and basically he wrote me this super long wall of text just snowing me with all this irrelevant information.” As we’ve already seen, this is a bald faced lie. Nothing in Pastor Durbin’s response was irrelevant, in fact, he specifically answered Anderson’s claim that he was discharged for being a homosexual, by stating very clearly that he had never been a homosexual.
Anderson then goes on to tell his congregation, “Hey, I had two witnesses. I got this out of the mouth of two first hand witnesses, and was given documentation of it!” Again, this is demonstrably a lie. Given Anderson’s track record, if he actually had two first hand witnesses to Durbin’s discharge he would have trotted them out long before this. To date, he has failed to produce any evidence of the existence of these so-called witnesses. Additionally, why would he even accept as true anyone’s claim that Pastor Durbin was discharged for homosexuality, especially without knowing these so-called witnesses? And lastly, Anderson claims he was given documentation of Pastor Durbin being discharged for homosexuality. Again, this is not only a lie, but it is impossible. The only documentation that would be available to Steven Anderson regarding Jeff Durbin’s military service would be his DD form 214; which, by the way, is available on the internet, and it says nothing other than he was discharged fourteen days after he started in the Marines. That’s it. And given there are any number of legitimate reasons for this happening, not the least of which is the reason Pastor Durbin gave to Steven Anderson, there is no way to truthfully say that Durbin’s DD-214 documents he was discharged for being a homosexual.
Anderson goes on, “but it’s funny in this giant wall of text he never one time did he deny tel..so then I just said, ‘look, it’s a simple question, are you denying telling the drill instructor that you’re a homosexual?’ ‘well, I’m not gonna answer any more questions, and blah, blah, blah.’ I asked him like five times and he won’t answer, he never will deny it, because it’s true.” Except that this is yet another lie Steven Anderson has told his congregation, as Durbin has already specifically told Anderson that he was not discharged for being a homosexual. Twice. But the truth does not matter to Steven Anderson, and he proves this by then saying, “this is the story, and it’s confirmed [no it isn’t], and he’s not denying it [yes he did, twice]. And it’s out of the mouth of two witnesses [he continues to fail to produce these witnesses]. He said to the drill instructor that he’s a sodomite [bald-faced lie]. That he’s a homo [a lie]. And the drill instructor basically demanded that he prove that [and yet another lie]. And basically, as a result, he got that reputation for being a sodomite [Anderson can’t stop lying at this point], and so he was persecuted and then that led to his discharge a few weeks later.” One lie after another lie, after another lie, after another. This is standard Steven Anderson fare.
And he continues to lie throughout his rant. Even after pulling out a printed copy of the conversation he had with Pastor Durbin, and staring at it, and reading it to himself, he continues to misrepresent Pastor Durbin, and continue in his lying spree. “This is not something from his past that he repented of an forsook” Anderson says. But there was nothing for Durbin to repent of! Anderson just can’t accept that. It is as if Durbin has to be a homosexual in order for Anderson’s world to set aright at this point. He literally begins ranting, so much so that one can almost see the spittle flying from his lips as he goes on like a mad man. “He’s lying!” Anderson says, “and sending me this deceptive wall of text, this non-denial! … and won’t admit the simple fact that he told his drill instructor that he was a homo! He won’t admit that even though I asked him five, six times!” And yet, Durbin did respond, and he denied it twice; both time very clearly, very specifically, and very much ignored by Anderson.
Anderson continues, “I said look, I’m giving you one more chance, did you tell the drill instructor that you’re a homo? … I ask him five, six times, it’s just this wall of text about, ‘oh, you don’t understand, you know, I left voluntarily.’ yeah, we know that you were trying to get out of the Marine Corps ’cause you couldn’t cut the mustard.” An interesting comment coming from someone who was never man enough to sign up. Pastor Durbin may not have stayed in, but at least he had enough backbone to try. Anderson goes on, “But that’s not the point, okay? … and then finally I said, ‘Okay, last chance.’ I said, ‘Let’s try this one more time. Last chance. Are you denying you told the drill instructor that you were a homosexual?’ … I mean, you know, I asked him every..six different ways from someway..Sunday, he won’t deny it.” And yet again, Anderson has lied to his congregation. If anyone in his congregation had bothered to read Anderson’s blog, they would easily and quickly see that Durbin denied Anderson’s false allegations not once, but twice.
And if anyone bother’s to look at Anderson’s blog article about this, they will see something else that is very interesting (and which relates directly to the above “Berg Family Case”), and that is the analysis done of Jeff Durbin’s written responses to Steven Anderson during their Facebook conversation. They were not done by a professional statement analyst, but rather by Anderson’s wife Zsuzsanna. At the beginning of the blog post, Anderson wrote, “Disclosure: This analysis was done by the wife of Steven Anderson, while carefully following principle. Still, the reader should bear in mind that there could be bias present on the part of the analyst in favor of Steven Anderson that cannot be fully overcome.” Could be bias? Hmmmm? Let’s see. According to Zsuzsanna Anderson’s “analysis” of Jeff Durbin’s written responses to Steven Anderson’s badgering, Pastor Durbin’s responses of, “I was absolutely NEVER kicked out of the Marines for being a homosexual. I never have been a homosexual.”, about this response, Zsuzsanna writes, “This is not a reliable denial. … The original question asked of the subject was, ‘Apparently you were discharged for homosexuality?’ In his ‘denial,’ the subject changes ‘discharged’ to ‘kicked out.’ This begs the question whether the subject has a different internal definition of discharged vs. kicked out. … The unusual sentence structure is noted, with ‘never’ coming before ‘have.’ Using ‘never’ allows the subject to avoid saying ‘I have not been..’ As stated above, never is vague in time and thus not reliable.”
There you have it folks. Using the common verbiage of “kicked out” rather than “discharge” (which is common when referring to someone involuntarily discharged as Anderson is doing) is some form of avoidance; and saying he was not kicked out for being a homosexual and has never been a homosexual” is “not a reliable denial.” It is painfully obvious that the truth matters not to either Steven Anderson nor his wife, as both had it clearly established in their minds that Jeff Durbin was guilty as charged by Steven Anderson, regardless of the fact that Anderson has no proof, regardless of the fact that the charges leveled by Steven Anderson were denied by the one person who would have knowledge of this.
But Steven Anderson was determined to slander and smear Jeff Durbin. This is what he set out do to, and this is what he did. In fact, Anderson has been so determined to slander and smear Pastor Durbin, that he has produced a full dozen anti-Durbin videos that he has posted publicly on YouTube. Naturally, Anderson’s actions have resulted in several additional anti-Durbin videos being posted to YouTube by New IFB’ers “Ben the Baptist,” “The New IFB,” and others; as well as a plethora of anti-Durbin hate speech posted by New IFB’ers in the comments sections of these videos. Comments such as:
william graw
And who says "Christians won't gleefully take the mark of the Beast". Durtbin is the drum major marching christians [sic] to Hell.
Evangelist Baptist John Worley
Never heard of the lieing [sic] bastard. Jeff until recently. Skinnky [sic] jean wearing sissy
Bill Macgregor
Faggy voice and gestures, thumb ring, queer necklace, tattoos, beard, all go together.
FBG Custom Auto Lighting
Bill Macgregor can’t forget the V neck. How can someone dress so ridiculous and think God approves
Pastor Durbin’s good friend, Dr. James White, who is an Elder and the “Scholar in Residence” at Durbin’s Apologia Church, has fared about as well as Pastor Durbin, with more than a dozen videos condemning and slandering Dr. White posted to YouTube by Steven Anderson and New IFB’ers “Ben the Baptist, Jason Robinson, Joe Major, Paul Niven, Paul Wittenberger, and more. And, of course, the innumerable New IFB comments that slander Dr. White and say all manner of vile things about him.27
The Harper Family Case28
One of the most heart rending cases of abuse by the New IFB is the Harper Family case. Steven Harper and his family were members of Stedfast Baptist Church in Fort Worth, Texas. They began attending several years ago, long before the Donnie Romero scandal, and while Romero was the pastor of Stedfast. Romero had been groomed by Steven Anderson personally, for the express purpose of moving out from Anderson’s Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, Arizona (where Romero was attending as a member) to Fort Worth to start another New IFB church there. This he did, eventually becoming “independent” from Anderson’s mother church in Tempe. As mentioned previously, this is the preferred method of expansion used by Steven Anderson and the New IFB.
After the Romero scandal was made public (Pastor Romero publicly confessed to using drugs, having affairs with prostitutes, and numerous visits to casinos, plus Steven Anderson allegedly stated that Romero had stolen $50,000 from the church to fund these sins), it was also made public that Steven Harper’s special needs son had been sexually abused. Harper himself has made these accusations public via various YouTube videos he has posted online.
According to Steven Harper, one of Donnie Romero’s children had been “touching” Harper’s son’s “private areas.” Harper claims this was substantiated by another member of Stedfast Baptist Church, who told him that Romero’s child had done this to other children as well. The person who substantiated this, also told another couple who attended Stedfast Baptist Church, and it was agreed by these two (not Steven Harper) that they would simply keep their children away from the Romero children, and keep a better eye on their own children. They also told Steven Harper and his wife that they would also keep an eye on their special needs son. They apparently did not want to confront Donnie Romero about the abuse inflicted by his child on other, younger, children. Not confronting the pastor is a standard practice within the New IFB, and doing so can lead to excommunication and complete shunning and ostracization of the person confronting the pastor, as well as their entire family. We have seen this New IFB form of discipline in the cases of the Berg family, the Edwards family, and others.
Steven Harper, to his credit, refused to allow the matter to be put to rest, and he began investigating it. Initially, he refused to accept that Donnie Romero’s child had done this terrible thing to his young son. This is likely due to the New IFB practice of not confronting one’s pastor. This and other New IFB doctrines are repeatedly pounded into the heads of the members of New IFB churches. Because of this New IFB “thought control” (for ultimately this is what it is), Steven Harper looked to Donnie Romero for help in finding out who had abused his son. Romero was only too happy to be kept in the loop, and he insisted that every time Harper was contacted by the police, or contacted the police himself regarding this matter, that Harper immediately let Romero know what the police had discovered, or were asking. Very suspicious behavior to say the least, and leading one to believe that Romero’s child was involved, and that Romero knew about it.
Then the scandal broke, and Romero was removed by Steven Anderson from the pastorate of Stedfast church. So much for being an independent church. Anderson then brought in another of his personally groomed and ordained “pastors” to replace Donnie Romero at Stedfast (and both Stedfast satellite churches, in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma and Jacksonville, Florida). This man was Jonathan Shelley.
During the time between the removal of Donnie Romero and the installation of Jonathan Shelley, Anderson held two private, or secret, meetings between himself and the men of Stedfast Fort Worth. At the first meeting there were only five men in attendance in addition to Steven Anderson. They were Steven Harper, Kevin Edelman, John Stebner, Emmanual Zermano, and Jessie Michaels. Anderson insisted there be no recording of the meeting. It was during this meeting that Anderson told the men in attendance that Donnie Romero had stolen $50,000 of church money to fund his escapades with drugs, gambling, and prostitutes (thus indicating he was personally aware of the crime committed by Romero), and then, again according to Steven Harper, Anderson told the men in attendance that they were not to tell anyone of Romero’s crime, because, “we have to keep Donnie out of jail.” (this too is a crime in Texas, thus opening Anderson up to potential prosecution for fraud/embezzlement, and aiding and abetting. In Texas, those who fail to report a crime they have personal knowledge of, and actively engage in protecting the criminal and thus hindering law enforcement, can be tried not just for this crime, but also for the crime committed by the initial offender – in this case, Donnie Romero).
Anderson’s insistence that Donnie Romero be protected and kept out of jail, apparently extended to the abuse Harper claims his son suffered at the hands of Donnie Romero’s child. When Steven Harper took the information he had gathered to Jonathan Shelley for his help, Shelley intentionally drug his feet, and did nothing to help Harper and his family. According to Harper, Shelley’s primary concern was if there were eye witnesses to the abuse. According to Steven Harper, Jonathan Shelley told him that if no one personally witnessed the abuse, then there was nothing he could do to help Harper. When Jonathan Shelley was asked about his investigation into these claims of sexual abuse, Shelley stated that he asked Donnie Romero about it and Romero told him the accusations were not true. Apparently this was all Shelley needed to hear, although one has to question the wisdom of conducting an “investigation” which consisted of asking father of the accused if their child was a sexual abuser, and calling it all goo when they say, “No, of course not.” Harper says that Shelley continued to stall him and put him off, until the Harper’s decided they could no longer attend Stedfast Baptist Church, Fort Worth; and he told Shelley as much.
On the Sunday after the Harper family left Stedfast church, Jonathan Shelley stood up in the pulpit and publicly accused Steven Harper of making false accusations, and railing against members of the church. Shelley stated that he had done a thorough investigation (which by his own admission was anything but thorough) and found Harper’s accusations to be false. He stated that he had interviewed those involved (Harper had given him the names of the other church members who had knowledge of the abuse), and that they had denied anything took place. Please remember that in an interview, Jonathan Shelley stated his investigation was comprised of asking Donnie Romero, not talking to those whom Harper knew to be witnesses.
Coincidentally (or not) when Harper and his wife contacted those church members after Shelley’s sermon, they all denied having any knowledge of the abuse (in spite of earlier stating they did have such knowledge, and were willing to stand with the Harper’s and testify to what they knew), and they told the Harper’s it was now someone elses’s problem. They also began to shun the Harper’s and treat them as outcasts. Shelley also claimed to be in possession of a recording wherein Mrs. Harper allegedly told the Fort Worth police that no one in Texas had anything to do with the abuse. During the interview with Shelley, he claimed he received the recording from Donnie Romero. How Romero would have managed to gain access to what should have been evidence in a sexual abuse investigation is unknown, but very questionable.
When Jonathan Shelley excommunicated the Harper family, he ensured by this action that the Harper family would be shunned and ostracized, completely cut off from all friends and family still attending Stedfast and/or any other New IFB church. This is, of course, a standard practice within the New IFB, and serves to keep the members in check and subservient to the church leaders. As a result, the Harper’s were set adrift to deal with the aftermath of the abuse by themselves. No Stedfast member would associate with them, much less help them.
The New IFB points to 1 Timothy 5:19-20 as biblical support for this practice. The passage reads:
“19 Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses. 20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.”
The first verse in this passage, verse 19, is interpreted by the New IFB as “never question or confront the pastor. Period.” For those who do, however, they look to verse 20 as support for the public shaming of the person and their family from the pulpit, as well as their shunning. In other words, if you question or accuse the pastor (or in the case of Steven Harper, the former pastor, Donnie Romero), then you are in sin and must be punished. And this is exactly what Jonathan Shelley did. Not only based on 1 Timothy 5:19-20, but also on Steven Anderson’s order to keep Donnie Romero out of jail.
Since Steven Harper went public with the abuse of his young son, the family has been treated in much the same way as others before them, such as the Berg family and the Edwards family. Like the Berg family, the Harper’s have had child protective services called on them. Like the Edwards family, a person from Stedfast church created a fake Google account, and then went on YouTube pretending to be Steven Harper. In comments posted by the fake Steven Harper, this person pretending to be Mr. Harper posted a “confession” that he had been sexually molesting his own son. The fake account was soon thereafter deleted. Unlike the other families who found themselves victims of abuse at the hands of the New IFB, the Harper family also received threats of both physical violence and death. All of this allegedly from members of Stedfast Baptist Church, Fort Worth. Nice folks those New IFB.
Because of the twisted interpretation of this Bible passage and their accompanying unbiblical practice, the Steven Harper family was left to suffer and bear these burdens, and their young son left to remain a silent victim, while his abuser is left alone. While some may look at this and think, “well, this is all hearsay, all based on Steven Harper’s word.” Well, that isn’t entirely true. What many do not know is that after they left the church, Donnie Romero’s wife sent text messages (plural) to the Harper family, apologizing for ruining their lives. The only thing the Romero’s did to ruin the lives of Steven Harper and his wife and young son, was to abandon them after their child allegedly abused the Harper’s young son; and do nothing to stop the abuse. That’s it. We will leave it up to the reader to decide what Mrs. Romero meant by her repeated cryptic message; as well as strongly encourage the reader to continue in prayer for both the Harper family and the Romero family.
A former member of the New IFB interviewed for this article series spoke only on the express condition of anonymity, expressing a sincere fear of Steven Anderson and the New IFB. This person stated that Anderson and his followers will “try and ruin your life publicly if they possibly can. They don’t care about your family, your kids, they don’t care about innocent people or good men.”
The behavior displayed by Steven Anderson and the New IFB toward the Carone family, the Berg family, the Edwards family, Jeff Durbin, The Harper family and others mentioned in this chapter prove this beyond any reasonable doubt.
Part 3d Sources:
19. Text Messages Between Kris Byrne and Russell Bopst, June 13-26, 2016, PDF on file, accessed July 14, 2019.
Text Messages Between Kris Byrne and Ramon Ventura, June 20, 2016, PDF on file, accessed July 14, 2019.
20. My account of being kicked out of the Anderson Show (aka Faithful Word Baptist Church / FWBC) [33:22]
Kontrarian
Published on Jan 7, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2x5DlNR_74&feature=youtu.be
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video
21. Pastor Anderson kicking out an unrepentant trouble maker [7:10]
Craig Dohner
Published on Nov 16, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBGxGKmLZgg
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video
22. Personal email from Alyssa Carone dated July 5, 2019. on file.
Answering Email About Donnie Romero Divorce Options… [38:22]
TruthInLove - Christian Apologist - Alyssa Carone
Published on Jan 12, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71uX6v3Qcmk
Answering Email About Romero & The "New IFB"… [28:22]
TruthInLove - Christian Apologist - Alyssa Carone
Published on Jan 11, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGe697C1bsc
My Response To Pig Pastor Donnie Romero's "Apology" [14:40]
TruthInLove - Christian Apologist - Alyssa Carone
Published on Jan 10, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-c2zAVo65k
Was I Too Harsh On Donnie Romero… [20:17]
TruthInLove - Christian Apologist - Alyssa Carone
Published on Jan 31, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRu4I9WWS7w
Pig Pastor Romero Caught With Prostitutes After Condemning My Makeup… [23:35]
TruthInLove - Christian Apologist - Alyssa Carone
Published on Jan 5, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2tXLRVZTjk
Pastor Romero Caught With Prostitutes After Condemning My Makeup Part 2 [28:01]
TruthInLove - Christian Apologist - Alyssa Carone
Published on Jan 7, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jstuOOeA0xA
Trusting In The Sovereignty Of God When People Are Evil Like Donnie Romero… [34:01]
TruthInLove - Christian Apologist - Alyssa Carone
Published on Jan 13, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pl3n6fWHaM
My Wife Zsuzsa - Part 14
Friday, March 22, 2013
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2013/03/my-wife-zsuzsa-part-14.html
My mom, Susan Anderson...
Memorial Service for Grandma (Helen Anderson)
Tuesday, October 2, 2018
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2018/10/memorial-service-for-grandma-helen.html
Left to right: Clint, Spring, Dad, Denise, Myself, Zsuzsa, Matt, Lisa, Bobby, Raani
Per Public Records:
Steven Anderson’s Father is: Raymond Richard Anderson, DOB 1950
Steven Anderson’s Mother is: Susan Jeanene Tackaberry, DOB 1950
They divorced and remarried to:
Raymond Richard Anderson to Denise Ann Nicholls, DOB 1966 [they live in Roseville, Calif]
Susan J Tackaberry Anderson to Lance L Hagler, DOB 1952 [they live in Citrus Heights, Calif]
Divorce + Remarriage = Adultery! [1:56]
sanderson1611
Published on Feb 11, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzodigNPgNw
23. Confidential Source who has asked to remain anonymous due to fear of Anderson and his followers, explaining they have personally witnessed New IFB members conducting coordinated attacks on former members, explaining they have a single goal and that is to destroy their victim without regard as to how they accomplish this, and without regard to destroying the victims spouse or children in the process.
24. Confidential Source who has asked to remain anonymous due to fear of Anderson and his followers, explaining they have personally witnessed New IFB members conducting coordinated attacks on former members, explaining they have a single goal and that is to destroy their victim without regard as to how they accomplish this, and without regard to destroying the victims spouse or children in the process.
25. Video: Lie Detector Proves Pastor Steven Anderson to be a Liar and False Accuser of the Brethren, This one hour forty-five minute video was produced by Paul Berg in response to Steven Anderson’s decision to put Berg and his family out of the church, based solely on lies, false accusations, and misleading false information. The video is not available online. A copy of this video in its entirety is on file with the author.
Video: Are They All Your Bullies? Pastor Steven Anderson Raising Bullies? [5:08]
Tylah Baker
Published on Jun 13, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnu70-FWeHU&t=30s
MP4 of this video has been downloaded
Video: Response to Paul Berg [15:57]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on May 3, 2018
This is a response to Paul Berg's video entitled: LIE DETECTOR PROVES PASTOR STEVEN ANDERSON TO BE A LIAR AND FALSE ACCUSER OF THE BRETHREN!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPQssMNb9B4
MP4 of this video has been downloaded
Email from Advanced Interview Concepts of Harrisburg, North Carolina. Email on file.
Email from Truth2Lies Analysis Group, LLC of Tempe, Arizona. Email on file.
Arizona Revised Statutes 1-601 Parents Rights Protected
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/1/00601.htm
Arizona Revised Statutes 1-602 Parents Bill of Rights Definition
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/1/00602.htm
Arizona Revised Statutes 12-731 Recovery of civil damages
https://www.azleg.gov/viewdocument/?docName=https://www.azleg.gov/ars/12/00731.htm
Arizona Revised Statutes 13-601 Classification of offenses
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/00601.htm
Arizona Revised Statutes 13-603 Authorized disposition of offenders
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/00603.htm
Arizona Revised Statutes 13-702 First time felony offenders; sentencing; definition
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/00702.htm
Arizona Revised Statutes 13-801 Fines for felonies
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/00801.htm
Arizona Revised Statutes 13-3001 Eavesdropping and Communications: Definitions
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/03001.htm
Arizona Revised Statutes 13-3005 Interception of wire, electronic and oral communications; installation of pen register or trap and trace device; classification; exceptions
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/03005.htm
Arizona Revised Statutes 13-3012 Eavesdropping and Communications: Exemptions
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/03012.htm
State v. Hauss, 142 Ariz. 159, 164 (Ariz. Ct. App. 1984).
https://casetext.com/case/state-v-hauss-1
Arizona Wiretapping Law
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/arizona-recording-law
Arizona's wiretapping law is a "one-party consent" law. Arizona makes it a crime to intercept a "wire or electronic communication" or a "conversation or discussion" unless you are a party to the communication, present during the conversation or discussion, or one party to the communication or conversation consents. A.R.S. § 13-3005, -3012(9). Therefore, if you operate in Arizona, you may record a conversation or phone call if you are a party to the conversation or you get permission from one party to the conversation in advance. That said, if you intend to record conversations involving people located in more than one state, you should abide by the recording law of the most restrictive state involved, or play it safe and get the consent of all parties.
The wiretapping law covers oral communications when the speakers have "an expectation that the communication is not subject to interception under circumstances justifying the expectation," A.R.S. § 13-3001, but absent the speakers' justified expectation, the law does not apply. See State v. Hauss, 142 Ariz. 159, 164 (Ariz. Ct. App. 1984). Therefore, you may be able to record in-person conversations occurring in a public place, such as a street or restaurant, without consent. However, you should seek the consent of one or all of the parties before recording any conversation that an ordinary person would deem private.
Violation of the Arizona law is a felony, punishable by imprisonment and fine. See A.R.S. §§ 13-601, -603, -702, and -801 for more details.
In addition, while recording a conversation with the consent of only one party is legal in Arizona, a lawyer's recording of a conversation without the consent of all parties may be unethical under the Arizona Rules of Professional Conduct. See State Bar of Arizona Ethics Opinions 75-13, 95-03. However, an attorney may advise her client to record a conversation without the consent of all parties as long as the recording is legal and the attorney does not participate in the recording. See State Bar of Arizona Ethics Opinion 00-04.
In addition to subjecting you to criminal prosecution, violating the Arizona wiretapping law can expose you to a civil lawsuit for damages by an injured party. See A.R.S. § 12-731.
Are polygraphs admissible in court?
http://www.mattepolygraph.com/legal_admissibility.html
Arizona Defamation Law
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/arizona-defamation-law
Is It Legal To Record A Conversation With A Minor?
From: https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/is-it-legal-to-record-a-conversation-with-a-minor--840189.html
Telephone interview with Paul Berg on 29 August 2019
Telephone interview with Paul Berg on 03 September 2019
Text Messages from Anonymous Faithful Word Baptist Church member with another Faithful Word Baptist Church member, regarding why the Berg’s were kicked out of Faithful Word Baptist Church by Steven Anderson; thus confirming Anderson spoke to the congregation about this.
Facebook Private Message dated February 28, 2018, and sent to members of Faithful Word Baptist Church by Zsuzsanna Anderson, the wife of FWBC pastor, Steven Anderson, in which she states the Berg family was “thrown out” of the church for “admitted incest,” and that Paul Berg was “guilty” of being a “predator and child molester.” All accusations that were proven to be false. Based on Deuteronomy 19:15-21, which Anderson used as justification for throwing the Berg’s out of the church, since his wife has also made the false accusations, she too should be thrown out of the church. In fact, since Anderson himself has falsely accused Paul Berg, based on this passage, he should also be thrown out of the church.
Telephone interview with Anonymous on 26 June 2019.
This person has stated, “I want to be anonymous on this. I don’t want to be singled out by these guys. I don’t want to use the word crazy, but the word narcissist has been thrown around. Somebody got thrown out of Stedfast Fort Worth for calling Shelley a narcissist or something. I believe it. I believe these guys are dangerous. I believe they would try and ruin your life publicly if they possibly can. They don’t care about your family, your kids, they don’t care about innocent people or good men”. This person’s concern was clearly genuine, and based on first hand experience with the New IFB. Because of this, their request for anonymity will be respected.
26. Detailed Breakdown of Jeff Durbin's Non-Denial
Written by Steven Anderson, Monday, December 24, 2018
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2018/12/detailed-breakdown-of-jeff-durbins-non.html
This Blog Article Downloaded as a PDF and is on file
While Mrs. Anderson presents her “analysis” in a manner that makes it appear as if it were done by a professional analyst, it isn’t and she isn’t. In a video produced by Mrs. Anderson and posted by her to YouTube, titled, “Mothering Moment - What to do if you're married to a jerk” [streamed live on YouTube July 19, 2019, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5BEgyE3uug, accessed 29 September 2019, video on file with the author], Mrs. Anderson states that she has just completed “three years of professional training” in how to analyze people’s words, so she is better able to read between the lines than most people.” Sounds impressive, but it is more an embellishment than an actual accomplishment. In the comment section of the same video, when asked where she had taken this “three years of professional training,” Mrs. Anderson revealed that she had taken, “some online courses and seminars, some seminars in person.” While she does not reveal which online course she took, when asked for book recommendations on the subject, she recommended those by Mark McClish of Advanced Interviewing Concepts. McClish offers a four month online course in statement analysis, and she likely took this course. An internet search for online statement analysis courses revealed several options, however, most are anywhere from a few hours to a month in length. One company offers a one-year program, and another offers a work-at-your-own-pace program, but there are no three-year programs such as Mrs. Anderson describes. It is likely she has embellished her online accomplishment, and is hardly a professionally trained statement analyst, unless you consider taking an online do-it-yourself study course written by a professional as being professionally trained.
Jeff Durbin and His Drill Instructor [6:52]
Faithful Word
Published on Dec 26, 2018
This is an excerpt from the full sermon "Demon Possessed Preachers:"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WF1y23UAAA&t=148s
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Jeff Durbin's Church Promotes Tattoos and Booze [13:23]
sanderson1611
Published on Dec 26, 2018
Here is the link to the full sermon from Sunday night where Pastor Anderson exposes Jeff Durbin as a demoniac and a Sodomite. The sermon is called "Demon Possessed Preachers:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2IjSoWuGg4
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
"Demon Possessed Preachers" (Jeff Durbin Exposed) [58:21]
sanderson1611
Streamed live on Dec 23, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXD-OisY2Uw
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Pastor Jeff Durbin = Pervert, Dog, Drunkard [16:02]
sanderson1611
Published on Aug 20, 2017
[Note: it is in this video that Anderson calls both Durbin and his wife “Drunks” and “Alcoholics” and calls Jeff Durbin, a “Drunkard”, as well as a pervert and a dog, etc. Pure slander, unsubstantiated slander, thus making Anderson a biblically defined slanderer and railer. The fact that he still has this video up on his YouTube channel, for all the world to see, and has since August 20, 2017 – almost two full years (today is August 15, 2019), shows that he could not care less. An unrepentant sinner, flaunting his sin in God’s face. And he’s a Christian? No, he is a blasphemer. And who does not inherit the kingdom of heaven? 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (KJV): “9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” Unless one repents and is saved, verse 11, “And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.” AND: Leviticus 19:16 (KJV), “16 Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour; I am the Lord.”]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzOirKIwAF4
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Jeff Durbin Apologia Beer Church [5:25]
sanderson1611
Published on Dec 1, 2018
Please accept my "apologia." Here is the link to the sermon where the error was made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyUNZU2J4Dw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zoly8puVpA0
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"What It Means to be a Fundamental Baptist" (No Glitches) [1:15:49]
sanderson1611
Published on Dec 1, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyUNZU2J4Dw
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
I Never Knew You. Depart from Me! (Jeff Durbin) [2:36]
sanderson1611
Published on Aug 29, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Ejbdor6jQ
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
The Possession of Jeff Durbin [7:17]
sanderson1611
Published on December 26, 2018
This is an excerpt from the full sermon "Demon Possessed Preachers:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHrHfAjSfTA
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Jeff Durbin's Thinly Veiled Works Salvation [4:50]
sanderson1611
Published on Dec 14, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsNHhix0-mE
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Pastor Jeff Durbin's Dirty Comedy Show [3:15]
sanderson1611
Published on Sep 1, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Oo35OpjUiQ
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Pastor Anderson vs. Jeff Durbin [7:39]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on Dec 1, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lx7Ql2zi0k
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
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Pastor Jeff Durbin approved "Dirty Trinity" tattoo for church member (Apologia Church) [0:50]
The New IFB
Published on Dec 26, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGTyJ6fDcRs
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Booze is a Blessing says James White's New Pastor Jeff Durbin (Apologia Church Tempe AZ) [1:11]
The New IFB
Published on Dec 1, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO2aXhe6VUY
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Jeff Durbin & James White Attack Pastor Anderson (Call him a Internet Troll) [1:20]
The New IFB
Published on Dec 6, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZvI5fWK9P4
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Apologia Church / Tattoo Parlor exposed by Pastor Steven Anderson (Jeff Durbin / James White) [14:27]
The New IFB
Published on Dec 26, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcPxGvMjdWg
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Sue me Jeff Durbin, I dare you! (Pastor Steven Anderson) [1:26]
The New IFB
Published on Dec 27, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8R1xll6Qig
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
In this video, Anderson claims he has nothing and his church has nothing. Surprising considering he is bringing in $120,000 per month on average.
Jeff Durbin: Kingdom of God Documentary Exposed (Apologia Studios) [3:51]
New Ifb
Published on May 17, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AEvE_0l3tE
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Jeff Durbin's Christian "Comedy" is Terrible (Apologia Studios Fail) [3:52]
Ben the Baptist
Published on Aug 29, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfBqvlRKLrI
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
27. James White: Not Enough Greeks to be Worth Evangelizing [7:55]
sanderson1611
July 21, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYRHEjk_klw&t=220s
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James White vs Steven Anderson (debate vs Evangelism) [2:33]
sanderson1611
July 21, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J8h9hsYxno
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
What’s the Big Deal about Dr. James White? - Part 1 [9:52]
sanderson1611
November 13, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO48cqShD_s
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Ten “Response to ‘The King James Only Controversy” (Book by James White) – ten videos, one per chapter
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTSXeNpNACE&t=288s
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFJ1kTzsUtk&t=11s
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZmRb1zPfVQ
4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfgrFs9NaPI
5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyf8ePNs0Ro
6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuqqhTyp_bM
7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8KUvuQyhYA
8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU5iSHF65nc
9. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1OJxbJaG-4
10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpzZVxncz4I
plus videos by Ben the Baptist, Paul Wittenberger, Jason Robinson, Joe Major, “The New IFB” YouTube channel (Paul Niven), and more, including:
Dr James White Is A Moronic Pervert - Steven Anderson [8:39]
The Polemicist
Published on Jan 13, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oBr4NACqVY
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James White Thinks He’s God [2:55]
Ben the Baptist
Published on Jan 4, 2018
Stay away from false prophet heretic “Dr.” James White.
Note: The Comments Are A Real Treasure!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIE00U6u2nw&feature=youtu.be
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James White Scared To Death of Pastor Major [2:56]
Joe Major (Faith Baptist Church)
Published on Nov 30, 2018
Note: Do you notice the click bait style title? There is nothing in this video indicating White is “scared to death of” Joe Major. Nothing. White is merely commenting on who stupid and childish the video trailer for “Calvinism – The Doctrine of Devils” is. Major is simply flattering himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEdpyOHXH4c
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James White covets Steven Anderson's popularity [18:39]
The Word Independent Baptist Church
Streamed live on Dec 12, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S1DwzADCJ0
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video
Not to mention all the various comments left by Andersonites!!!
28. Stedfast Baptist Church Coverup Video #1 Donnie Romero 12-3-18 [6:34]
Cult Survivors
Published on Jan 13, 2019 (1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lON9TEvNLU
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Stedfast Baptist Church Cover up Video 2: The Lies of The Cardona Family
Steven Harper KJV
Published on Jan 13, 2019 (2)
Stedfast Baptist Church cover up Video 3: The Alleged Perpetrators Mom [20:25]
Cult Survivors
Published on Jan 13, 2019 (3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFFZebQmGeA
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video
Steven Harper KJV Claims Stedfast Baptist Church Cover-up by Donnie Romero and Jonathan Shelley [6:34]
shedrock vieira
Published on Jan 14, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCQcVMHFjVw
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Steven Harper Says Will Continue to Expose the Cover-up @ Stedfast Baptist Church Despite Harassment [1:30]
Banned From THE NEW IFB
Published on Jan 14, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcHq7LSU0A0
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Harper Family Alleges Abuse Cover-up at Stedfast Baptist Church (Jonathan Shelley and Donnie Romero) [8:20]
Banned From THE NEW IFB
Published on Jan 14, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRDcNNt1qmo
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Phone call privacy complaint(cover up) [3:08]
Cult Survivors
Published on Jan 14, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFozqCia2KQ
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3 privacy complaints received Stedfast Baptist Church cover up #conspiracy [0:54]
Cult Survivors
Published on Jan 15, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0oHVAmX9fk
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Steven Harper Calls Out Stedfast Baptist Church and Pastor Jonathan Shelley for Abuse Cover-up [0:57]
Banned From THE NEW IFB
Published on Jan 15, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSyU4-IdeOc&feature=youtu.be
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Leaving Stedfast Baptist Church Proof 1 #Stedfast #Baptist #Coverup [10:27]
Titus Kjv [Steven Harper]
Published on Jan 29, 2019 (1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qz8qJeYmT4
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STEDFAST BAPTIST CHURCH
Jonathan Shelly of Stedfast Baptist Church is a proven Liar call recording#Coverup #Cult #Abuse [3:19]
Retitled: “Evidence i left stedfast Baptist video 2 Jonathan shelly lied #Coverup #Cult #Abuse”
Titus Kjv
Published on Jan 29, 2019 (2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wZZfkm_ypI
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John stebner Freudian slip. [0:52]
Titus Kjv
Published on Jan 29, 2019 (3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOrTZGzk21E
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Stedfast Baptist Jonathan Shelly Exposed #NewIFB #Abuse #Deception [19:44]
Titus KJV
January 30, 2019 (01)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCol9Lvs2qs
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Shadow pc rendering jonathan shelly exposed video [3:01]
Titus KJV
January 30, 2019 (02)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bu-vSb049Y
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Emmanuel of Stedfast Baptist Church 1-9-2019 [18:37]
Titus KJV
January 30, 2019 (03)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy7U9_0-dmg
NOTE: This video was removed from YouTube. It was downloaded before it was removed, however.
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video
Reuploading videos and discussing cult practices [10:17]
Cult Survivors [Steven Harper]
Published on Feb 3, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV3TvtJw1jY
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Emmnanuel Zermano correction |Stedfast Baptist Church Cult Member [12:00]
Cult Survivors [Steven Harper]
Published on Feb 3, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0praakFCLE8
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Stedfast baptist church John Stebner Repobate False Accuser #Reprobate #Psychopath #StedfastBaptist [6:04]
Cult Survivors [Steven Harper]
Published on Feb 3, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcNFrkEs_4s
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video
Caught you slippin [8:07]
Cult Survivors [Steven Harper]
Published on Feb 5, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzEaCpN1qB0
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video
Telephone interview with Steven Harper, dated 10 February 2019
Telephone interview with Steven Harper, dated 18 July 2019
Telephone interview with Steven Harper, dated 19 July 2019
Telephone interview with Steven Harper, dated 25 July 2019
Telephone interview with Jonathan Shelley, dated 27 February 2019
After the Romero scandal was made public (Pastor Romero publicly confessed to using drugs, having affairs with prostitutes, and numerous visits to casinos, plus Steven Anderson allegedly stated that Romero had stolen $50,000 from the church to fund these sins), it was also made public that Steven Harper’s special needs son had been sexually abused. Harper himself has made these accusations public via various YouTube videos he has posted online.
According to Steven Harper, one of Donnie Romero’s children had been “touching” Harper’s son’s “private areas.” Harper claims this was substantiated by another member of Stedfast Baptist Church, who told him that Romero’s child had done this to other children as well. The person who substantiated this, also told another couple who attended Stedfast Baptist Church, and it was agreed by these two (not Steven Harper) that they would simply keep their children away from the Romero children, and keep a better eye on their own children. They also told Steven Harper and his wife that they would also keep an eye on their special needs son. They apparently did not want to confront Donnie Romero about the abuse inflicted by his child on other, younger, children. Not confronting the pastor is a standard practice within the New IFB, and doing so can lead to excommunication and complete shunning and ostracization of the person confronting the pastor, as well as their entire family. We have seen this New IFB form of discipline in the cases of the Berg family, the Edwards family, and others.
Steven Harper, to his credit, refused to allow the matter to be put to rest, and he began investigating it. Initially, he refused to accept that Donnie Romero’s child had done this terrible thing to his young son. This is likely due to the New IFB practice of not confronting one’s pastor. This and other New IFB doctrines are repeatedly pounded into the heads of the members of New IFB churches. Because of this New IFB “thought control” (for ultimately this is what it is), Steven Harper looked to Donnie Romero for help in finding out who had abused his son. Romero was only too happy to be kept in the loop, and he insisted that every time Harper was contacted by the police, or contacted the police himself regarding this matter, that Harper immediately let Romero know what the police had discovered, or were asking. Very suspicious behavior to say the least, and leading one to believe that Romero’s child was involved, and that Romero knew about it.
Then the scandal broke, and Romero was removed by Steven Anderson from the pastorate of Stedfast church. So much for being an independent church. Anderson then brought in another of his personally groomed and ordained “pastors” to replace Donnie Romero at Stedfast (and both Stedfast satellite churches, in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma and Jacksonville, Florida). This man was Jonathan Shelley.
During the time between the removal of Donnie Romero and the installation of Jonathan Shelley, Anderson held two private, or secret, meetings between himself and the men of Stedfast Fort Worth. At the first meeting there were only five men in attendance in addition to Steven Anderson. They were Steven Harper, Kevin Edelman, John Stebner, Emmanual Zermano, and Jessie Michaels. Anderson insisted there be no recording of the meeting. It was during this meeting that Anderson told the men in attendance that Donnie Romero had stolen $50,000 of church money to fund his escapades with drugs, gambling, and prostitutes (thus indicating he was personally aware of the crime committed by Romero), and then, again according to Steven Harper, Anderson told the men in attendance that they were not to tell anyone of Romero’s crime, because, “we have to keep Donnie out of jail.” (this too is a crime in Texas, thus opening Anderson up to potential prosecution for fraud/embezzlement, and aiding and abetting. In Texas, those who fail to report a crime they have personal knowledge of, and actively engage in protecting the criminal and thus hindering law enforcement, can be tried not just for this crime, but also for the crime committed by the initial offender – in this case, Donnie Romero).
Anderson’s insistence that Donnie Romero be protected and kept out of jail, apparently extended to the abuse Harper claims his son suffered at the hands of Donnie Romero’s child. When Steven Harper took the information he had gathered to Jonathan Shelley for his help, Shelley intentionally drug his feet, and did nothing to help Harper and his family. According to Harper, Shelley’s primary concern was if there were eye witnesses to the abuse. According to Steven Harper, Jonathan Shelley told him that if no one personally witnessed the abuse, then there was nothing he could do to help Harper. When Jonathan Shelley was asked about his investigation into these claims of sexual abuse, Shelley stated that he asked Donnie Romero about it and Romero told him the accusations were not true. Apparently this was all Shelley needed to hear, although one has to question the wisdom of conducting an “investigation” which consisted of asking father of the accused if their child was a sexual abuser, and calling it all goo when they say, “No, of course not.” Harper says that Shelley continued to stall him and put him off, until the Harper’s decided they could no longer attend Stedfast Baptist Church, Fort Worth; and he told Shelley as much.
On the Sunday after the Harper family left Stedfast church, Jonathan Shelley stood up in the pulpit and publicly accused Steven Harper of making false accusations, and railing against members of the church. Shelley stated that he had done a thorough investigation (which by his own admission was anything but thorough) and found Harper’s accusations to be false. He stated that he had interviewed those involved (Harper had given him the names of the other church members who had knowledge of the abuse), and that they had denied anything took place. Please remember that in an interview, Jonathan Shelley stated his investigation was comprised of asking Donnie Romero, not talking to those whom Harper knew to be witnesses.
Coincidentally (or not) when Harper and his wife contacted those church members after Shelley’s sermon, they all denied having any knowledge of the abuse (in spite of earlier stating they did have such knowledge, and were willing to stand with the Harper’s and testify to what they knew), and they told the Harper’s it was now someone elses’s problem. They also began to shun the Harper’s and treat them as outcasts. Shelley also claimed to be in possession of a recording wherein Mrs. Harper allegedly told the Fort Worth police that no one in Texas had anything to do with the abuse. During the interview with Shelley, he claimed he received the recording from Donnie Romero. How Romero would have managed to gain access to what should have been evidence in a sexual abuse investigation is unknown, but very questionable.
When Jonathan Shelley excommunicated the Harper family, he ensured by this action that the Harper family would be shunned and ostracized, completely cut off from all friends and family still attending Stedfast and/or any other New IFB church. This is, of course, a standard practice within the New IFB, and serves to keep the members in check and subservient to the church leaders. As a result, the Harper’s were set adrift to deal with the aftermath of the abuse by themselves. No Stedfast member would associate with them, much less help them.
The New IFB points to 1 Timothy 5:19-20 as biblical support for this practice. The passage reads:
“19 Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses. 20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.”
The first verse in this passage, verse 19, is interpreted by the New IFB as “never question or confront the pastor. Period.” For those who do, however, they look to verse 20 as support for the public shaming of the person and their family from the pulpit, as well as their shunning. In other words, if you question or accuse the pastor (or in the case of Steven Harper, the former pastor, Donnie Romero), then you are in sin and must be punished. And this is exactly what Jonathan Shelley did. Not only based on 1 Timothy 5:19-20, but also on Steven Anderson’s order to keep Donnie Romero out of jail.
Since Steven Harper went public with the abuse of his young son, the family has been treated in much the same way as others before them, such as the Berg family and the Edwards family. Like the Berg family, the Harper’s have had child protective services called on them. Like the Edwards family, a person from Stedfast church created a fake Google account, and then went on YouTube pretending to be Steven Harper. In comments posted by the fake Steven Harper, this person pretending to be Mr. Harper posted a “confession” that he had been sexually molesting his own son. The fake account was soon thereafter deleted. Unlike the other families who found themselves victims of abuse at the hands of the New IFB, the Harper family also received threats of both physical violence and death. All of this allegedly from members of Stedfast Baptist Church, Fort Worth. Nice folks those New IFB.
Because of the twisted interpretation of this Bible passage and their accompanying unbiblical practice, the Steven Harper family was left to suffer and bear these burdens, and their young son left to remain a silent victim, while his abuser is left alone. While some may look at this and think, “well, this is all hearsay, all based on Steven Harper’s word.” Well, that isn’t entirely true. What many do not know is that after they left the church, Donnie Romero’s wife sent text messages (plural) to the Harper family, apologizing for ruining their lives. The only thing the Romero’s did to ruin the lives of Steven Harper and his wife and young son, was to abandon them after their child allegedly abused the Harper’s young son; and do nothing to stop the abuse. That’s it. We will leave it up to the reader to decide what Mrs. Romero meant by her repeated cryptic message; as well as strongly encourage the reader to continue in prayer for both the Harper family and the Romero family.
A former member of the New IFB interviewed for this article series spoke only on the express condition of anonymity, expressing a sincere fear of Steven Anderson and the New IFB. This person stated that Anderson and his followers will “try and ruin your life publicly if they possibly can. They don’t care about your family, your kids, they don’t care about innocent people or good men.”
The behavior displayed by Steven Anderson and the New IFB toward the Carone family, the Berg family, the Edwards family, Jeff Durbin, The Harper family and others mentioned in this chapter prove this beyond any reasonable doubt.
Part 3d Sources:
19. Text Messages Between Kris Byrne and Russell Bopst, June 13-26, 2016, PDF on file, accessed July 14, 2019.
Text Messages Between Kris Byrne and Ramon Ventura, June 20, 2016, PDF on file, accessed July 14, 2019.
20. My account of being kicked out of the Anderson Show (aka Faithful Word Baptist Church / FWBC) [33:22]
Kontrarian
Published on Jan 7, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2x5DlNR_74&feature=youtu.be
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video
21. Pastor Anderson kicking out an unrepentant trouble maker [7:10]
Craig Dohner
Published on Nov 16, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBGxGKmLZgg
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video
22. Personal email from Alyssa Carone dated July 5, 2019. on file.
Answering Email About Donnie Romero Divorce Options… [38:22]
TruthInLove - Christian Apologist - Alyssa Carone
Published on Jan 12, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71uX6v3Qcmk
Answering Email About Romero & The "New IFB"… [28:22]
TruthInLove - Christian Apologist - Alyssa Carone
Published on Jan 11, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGe697C1bsc
My Response To Pig Pastor Donnie Romero's "Apology" [14:40]
TruthInLove - Christian Apologist - Alyssa Carone
Published on Jan 10, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-c2zAVo65k
Was I Too Harsh On Donnie Romero… [20:17]
TruthInLove - Christian Apologist - Alyssa Carone
Published on Jan 31, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRu4I9WWS7w
Pig Pastor Romero Caught With Prostitutes After Condemning My Makeup… [23:35]
TruthInLove - Christian Apologist - Alyssa Carone
Published on Jan 5, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2tXLRVZTjk
Pastor Romero Caught With Prostitutes After Condemning My Makeup Part 2 [28:01]
TruthInLove - Christian Apologist - Alyssa Carone
Published on Jan 7, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jstuOOeA0xA
Trusting In The Sovereignty Of God When People Are Evil Like Donnie Romero… [34:01]
TruthInLove - Christian Apologist - Alyssa Carone
Published on Jan 13, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pl3n6fWHaM
My Wife Zsuzsa - Part 14
Friday, March 22, 2013
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2013/03/my-wife-zsuzsa-part-14.html
My mom, Susan Anderson...
Memorial Service for Grandma (Helen Anderson)
Tuesday, October 2, 2018
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2018/10/memorial-service-for-grandma-helen.html
Left to right: Clint, Spring, Dad, Denise, Myself, Zsuzsa, Matt, Lisa, Bobby, Raani
Per Public Records:
Steven Anderson’s Father is: Raymond Richard Anderson, DOB 1950
Steven Anderson’s Mother is: Susan Jeanene Tackaberry, DOB 1950
They divorced and remarried to:
Raymond Richard Anderson to Denise Ann Nicholls, DOB 1966 [they live in Roseville, Calif]
Susan J Tackaberry Anderson to Lance L Hagler, DOB 1952 [they live in Citrus Heights, Calif]
Divorce + Remarriage = Adultery! [1:56]
sanderson1611
Published on Feb 11, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzodigNPgNw
23. Confidential Source who has asked to remain anonymous due to fear of Anderson and his followers, explaining they have personally witnessed New IFB members conducting coordinated attacks on former members, explaining they have a single goal and that is to destroy their victim without regard as to how they accomplish this, and without regard to destroying the victims spouse or children in the process.
24. Confidential Source who has asked to remain anonymous due to fear of Anderson and his followers, explaining they have personally witnessed New IFB members conducting coordinated attacks on former members, explaining they have a single goal and that is to destroy their victim without regard as to how they accomplish this, and without regard to destroying the victims spouse or children in the process.
25. Video: Lie Detector Proves Pastor Steven Anderson to be a Liar and False Accuser of the Brethren, This one hour forty-five minute video was produced by Paul Berg in response to Steven Anderson’s decision to put Berg and his family out of the church, based solely on lies, false accusations, and misleading false information. The video is not available online. A copy of this video in its entirety is on file with the author.
Video: Are They All Your Bullies? Pastor Steven Anderson Raising Bullies? [5:08]
Tylah Baker
Published on Jun 13, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnu70-FWeHU&t=30s
MP4 of this video has been downloaded
Video: Response to Paul Berg [15:57]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on May 3, 2018
This is a response to Paul Berg's video entitled: LIE DETECTOR PROVES PASTOR STEVEN ANDERSON TO BE A LIAR AND FALSE ACCUSER OF THE BRETHREN!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPQssMNb9B4
MP4 of this video has been downloaded
Email from Advanced Interview Concepts of Harrisburg, North Carolina. Email on file.
Email from Truth2Lies Analysis Group, LLC of Tempe, Arizona. Email on file.
Arizona Revised Statutes 1-601 Parents Rights Protected
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/1/00601.htm
Arizona Revised Statutes 1-602 Parents Bill of Rights Definition
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/1/00602.htm
Arizona Revised Statutes 12-731 Recovery of civil damages
https://www.azleg.gov/viewdocument/?docName=https://www.azleg.gov/ars/12/00731.htm
Arizona Revised Statutes 13-601 Classification of offenses
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/00601.htm
Arizona Revised Statutes 13-603 Authorized disposition of offenders
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/00603.htm
Arizona Revised Statutes 13-702 First time felony offenders; sentencing; definition
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/00702.htm
Arizona Revised Statutes 13-801 Fines for felonies
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/00801.htm
Arizona Revised Statutes 13-3001 Eavesdropping and Communications: Definitions
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/03001.htm
Arizona Revised Statutes 13-3005 Interception of wire, electronic and oral communications; installation of pen register or trap and trace device; classification; exceptions
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/03005.htm
Arizona Revised Statutes 13-3012 Eavesdropping and Communications: Exemptions
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/03012.htm
State v. Hauss, 142 Ariz. 159, 164 (Ariz. Ct. App. 1984).
https://casetext.com/case/state-v-hauss-1
Arizona Wiretapping Law
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/arizona-recording-law
Arizona's wiretapping law is a "one-party consent" law. Arizona makes it a crime to intercept a "wire or electronic communication" or a "conversation or discussion" unless you are a party to the communication, present during the conversation or discussion, or one party to the communication or conversation consents. A.R.S. § 13-3005, -3012(9). Therefore, if you operate in Arizona, you may record a conversation or phone call if you are a party to the conversation or you get permission from one party to the conversation in advance. That said, if you intend to record conversations involving people located in more than one state, you should abide by the recording law of the most restrictive state involved, or play it safe and get the consent of all parties.
The wiretapping law covers oral communications when the speakers have "an expectation that the communication is not subject to interception under circumstances justifying the expectation," A.R.S. § 13-3001, but absent the speakers' justified expectation, the law does not apply. See State v. Hauss, 142 Ariz. 159, 164 (Ariz. Ct. App. 1984). Therefore, you may be able to record in-person conversations occurring in a public place, such as a street or restaurant, without consent. However, you should seek the consent of one or all of the parties before recording any conversation that an ordinary person would deem private.
Violation of the Arizona law is a felony, punishable by imprisonment and fine. See A.R.S. §§ 13-601, -603, -702, and -801 for more details.
In addition, while recording a conversation with the consent of only one party is legal in Arizona, a lawyer's recording of a conversation without the consent of all parties may be unethical under the Arizona Rules of Professional Conduct. See State Bar of Arizona Ethics Opinions 75-13, 95-03. However, an attorney may advise her client to record a conversation without the consent of all parties as long as the recording is legal and the attorney does not participate in the recording. See State Bar of Arizona Ethics Opinion 00-04.
In addition to subjecting you to criminal prosecution, violating the Arizona wiretapping law can expose you to a civil lawsuit for damages by an injured party. See A.R.S. § 12-731.
Are polygraphs admissible in court?
http://www.mattepolygraph.com/legal_admissibility.html
Arizona Defamation Law
http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/arizona-defamation-law
Is It Legal To Record A Conversation With A Minor?
From: https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/is-it-legal-to-record-a-conversation-with-a-minor--840189.html
Telephone interview with Paul Berg on 29 August 2019
Telephone interview with Paul Berg on 03 September 2019
Text Messages from Anonymous Faithful Word Baptist Church member with another Faithful Word Baptist Church member, regarding why the Berg’s were kicked out of Faithful Word Baptist Church by Steven Anderson; thus confirming Anderson spoke to the congregation about this.
Facebook Private Message dated February 28, 2018, and sent to members of Faithful Word Baptist Church by Zsuzsanna Anderson, the wife of FWBC pastor, Steven Anderson, in which she states the Berg family was “thrown out” of the church for “admitted incest,” and that Paul Berg was “guilty” of being a “predator and child molester.” All accusations that were proven to be false. Based on Deuteronomy 19:15-21, which Anderson used as justification for throwing the Berg’s out of the church, since his wife has also made the false accusations, she too should be thrown out of the church. In fact, since Anderson himself has falsely accused Paul Berg, based on this passage, he should also be thrown out of the church.
Telephone interview with Anonymous on 26 June 2019.
This person has stated, “I want to be anonymous on this. I don’t want to be singled out by these guys. I don’t want to use the word crazy, but the word narcissist has been thrown around. Somebody got thrown out of Stedfast Fort Worth for calling Shelley a narcissist or something. I believe it. I believe these guys are dangerous. I believe they would try and ruin your life publicly if they possibly can. They don’t care about your family, your kids, they don’t care about innocent people or good men”. This person’s concern was clearly genuine, and based on first hand experience with the New IFB. Because of this, their request for anonymity will be respected.
26. Detailed Breakdown of Jeff Durbin's Non-Denial
Written by Steven Anderson, Monday, December 24, 2018
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2018/12/detailed-breakdown-of-jeff-durbins-non.html
This Blog Article Downloaded as a PDF and is on file
While Mrs. Anderson presents her “analysis” in a manner that makes it appear as if it were done by a professional analyst, it isn’t and she isn’t. In a video produced by Mrs. Anderson and posted by her to YouTube, titled, “Mothering Moment - What to do if you're married to a jerk” [streamed live on YouTube July 19, 2019, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5BEgyE3uug, accessed 29 September 2019, video on file with the author], Mrs. Anderson states that she has just completed “three years of professional training” in how to analyze people’s words, so she is better able to read between the lines than most people.” Sounds impressive, but it is more an embellishment than an actual accomplishment. In the comment section of the same video, when asked where she had taken this “three years of professional training,” Mrs. Anderson revealed that she had taken, “some online courses and seminars, some seminars in person.” While she does not reveal which online course she took, when asked for book recommendations on the subject, she recommended those by Mark McClish of Advanced Interviewing Concepts. McClish offers a four month online course in statement analysis, and she likely took this course. An internet search for online statement analysis courses revealed several options, however, most are anywhere from a few hours to a month in length. One company offers a one-year program, and another offers a work-at-your-own-pace program, but there are no three-year programs such as Mrs. Anderson describes. It is likely she has embellished her online accomplishment, and is hardly a professionally trained statement analyst, unless you consider taking an online do-it-yourself study course written by a professional as being professionally trained.
Jeff Durbin and His Drill Instructor [6:52]
Faithful Word
Published on Dec 26, 2018
This is an excerpt from the full sermon "Demon Possessed Preachers:"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WF1y23UAAA&t=148s
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Jeff Durbin's Church Promotes Tattoos and Booze [13:23]
sanderson1611
Published on Dec 26, 2018
Here is the link to the full sermon from Sunday night where Pastor Anderson exposes Jeff Durbin as a demoniac and a Sodomite. The sermon is called "Demon Possessed Preachers:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2IjSoWuGg4
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
"Demon Possessed Preachers" (Jeff Durbin Exposed) [58:21]
sanderson1611
Streamed live on Dec 23, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXD-OisY2Uw
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Pastor Jeff Durbin = Pervert, Dog, Drunkard [16:02]
sanderson1611
Published on Aug 20, 2017
[Note: it is in this video that Anderson calls both Durbin and his wife “Drunks” and “Alcoholics” and calls Jeff Durbin, a “Drunkard”, as well as a pervert and a dog, etc. Pure slander, unsubstantiated slander, thus making Anderson a biblically defined slanderer and railer. The fact that he still has this video up on his YouTube channel, for all the world to see, and has since August 20, 2017 – almost two full years (today is August 15, 2019), shows that he could not care less. An unrepentant sinner, flaunting his sin in God’s face. And he’s a Christian? No, he is a blasphemer. And who does not inherit the kingdom of heaven? 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (KJV): “9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” Unless one repents and is saved, verse 11, “And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.” AND: Leviticus 19:16 (KJV), “16 Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour; I am the Lord.”]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzOirKIwAF4
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Jeff Durbin Apologia Beer Church [5:25]
sanderson1611
Published on Dec 1, 2018
Please accept my "apologia." Here is the link to the sermon where the error was made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyUNZU2J4Dw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zoly8puVpA0
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
"What It Means to be a Fundamental Baptist" (No Glitches) [1:15:49]
sanderson1611
Published on Dec 1, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyUNZU2J4Dw
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
I Never Knew You. Depart from Me! (Jeff Durbin) [2:36]
sanderson1611
Published on Aug 29, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Ejbdor6jQ
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
The Possession of Jeff Durbin [7:17]
sanderson1611
Published on December 26, 2018
This is an excerpt from the full sermon "Demon Possessed Preachers:" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHrHfAjSfTA
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Jeff Durbin's Thinly Veiled Works Salvation [4:50]
sanderson1611
Published on Dec 14, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsNHhix0-mE
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Pastor Jeff Durbin's Dirty Comedy Show [3:15]
sanderson1611
Published on Sep 1, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Oo35OpjUiQ
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Pastor Anderson vs. Jeff Durbin [7:39]
Faithful Word Baptist Church
Published on Dec 1, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lx7Ql2zi0k
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
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Pastor Jeff Durbin approved "Dirty Trinity" tattoo for church member (Apologia Church) [0:50]
The New IFB
Published on Dec 26, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGTyJ6fDcRs
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Booze is a Blessing says James White's New Pastor Jeff Durbin (Apologia Church Tempe AZ) [1:11]
The New IFB
Published on Dec 1, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO2aXhe6VUY
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Jeff Durbin & James White Attack Pastor Anderson (Call him a Internet Troll) [1:20]
The New IFB
Published on Dec 6, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZvI5fWK9P4
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Apologia Church / Tattoo Parlor exposed by Pastor Steven Anderson (Jeff Durbin / James White) [14:27]
The New IFB
Published on Dec 26, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcPxGvMjdWg
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Sue me Jeff Durbin, I dare you! (Pastor Steven Anderson) [1:26]
The New IFB
Published on Dec 27, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8R1xll6Qig
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
In this video, Anderson claims he has nothing and his church has nothing. Surprising considering he is bringing in $120,000 per month on average.
Jeff Durbin: Kingdom of God Documentary Exposed (Apologia Studios) [3:51]
New Ifb
Published on May 17, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AEvE_0l3tE
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Jeff Durbin's Christian "Comedy" is Terrible (Apologia Studios Fail) [3:52]
Ben the Baptist
Published on Aug 29, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfBqvlRKLrI
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
27. James White: Not Enough Greeks to be Worth Evangelizing [7:55]
sanderson1611
July 21, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYRHEjk_klw&t=220s
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
James White vs Steven Anderson (debate vs Evangelism) [2:33]
sanderson1611
July 21, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J8h9hsYxno
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
What’s the Big Deal about Dr. James White? - Part 1 [9:52]
sanderson1611
November 13, 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO48cqShD_s
MP4 Video has been downloaded for this video
Ten “Response to ‘The King James Only Controversy” (Book by James White) – ten videos, one per chapter
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTSXeNpNACE&t=288s
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFJ1kTzsUtk&t=11s
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZmRb1zPfVQ
4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfgrFs9NaPI
5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyf8ePNs0Ro
6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuqqhTyp_bM
7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8KUvuQyhYA
8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU5iSHF65nc
9. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1OJxbJaG-4
10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpzZVxncz4I
plus videos by Ben the Baptist, Paul Wittenberger, Jason Robinson, Joe Major, “The New IFB” YouTube channel (Paul Niven), and more, including:
Dr James White Is A Moronic Pervert - Steven Anderson [8:39]
The Polemicist
Published on Jan 13, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oBr4NACqVY
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video
James White Thinks He’s God [2:55]
Ben the Baptist
Published on Jan 4, 2018
Stay away from false prophet heretic “Dr.” James White.
Note: The Comments Are A Real Treasure!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIE00U6u2nw&feature=youtu.be
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video
James White Scared To Death of Pastor Major [2:56]
Joe Major (Faith Baptist Church)
Published on Nov 30, 2018
Note: Do you notice the click bait style title? There is nothing in this video indicating White is “scared to death of” Joe Major. Nothing. White is merely commenting on who stupid and childish the video trailer for “Calvinism – The Doctrine of Devils” is. Major is simply flattering himself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEdpyOHXH4c
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video
James White covets Steven Anderson's popularity [18:39]
The Word Independent Baptist Church
Streamed live on Dec 12, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S1DwzADCJ0
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video
Not to mention all the various comments left by Andersonites!!!
28. Stedfast Baptist Church Coverup Video #1 Donnie Romero 12-3-18 [6:34]
Cult Survivors
Published on Jan 13, 2019 (1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lON9TEvNLU
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video
Stedfast Baptist Church Cover up Video 2: The Lies of The Cardona Family
Steven Harper KJV
Published on Jan 13, 2019 (2)
Stedfast Baptist Church cover up Video 3: The Alleged Perpetrators Mom [20:25]
Cult Survivors
Published on Jan 13, 2019 (3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFFZebQmGeA
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video
Steven Harper KJV Claims Stedfast Baptist Church Cover-up by Donnie Romero and Jonathan Shelley [6:34]
shedrock vieira
Published on Jan 14, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCQcVMHFjVw
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video
Steven Harper Says Will Continue to Expose the Cover-up @ Stedfast Baptist Church Despite Harassment [1:30]
Banned From THE NEW IFB
Published on Jan 14, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcHq7LSU0A0
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video
Harper Family Alleges Abuse Cover-up at Stedfast Baptist Church (Jonathan Shelley and Donnie Romero) [8:20]
Banned From THE NEW IFB
Published on Jan 14, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRDcNNt1qmo
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video
Phone call privacy complaint(cover up) [3:08]
Cult Survivors
Published on Jan 14, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFozqCia2KQ
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video
3 privacy complaints received Stedfast Baptist Church cover up #conspiracy [0:54]
Cult Survivors
Published on Jan 15, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0oHVAmX9fk
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video
Steven Harper Calls Out Stedfast Baptist Church and Pastor Jonathan Shelley for Abuse Cover-up [0:57]
Banned From THE NEW IFB
Published on Jan 15, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSyU4-IdeOc&feature=youtu.be
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video
Leaving Stedfast Baptist Church Proof 1 #Stedfast #Baptist #Coverup [10:27]
Titus Kjv [Steven Harper]
Published on Jan 29, 2019 (1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qz8qJeYmT4
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video
STEDFAST BAPTIST CHURCH
Jonathan Shelly of Stedfast Baptist Church is a proven Liar call recording#Coverup #Cult #Abuse [3:19]
Retitled: “Evidence i left stedfast Baptist video 2 Jonathan shelly lied #Coverup #Cult #Abuse”
Titus Kjv
Published on Jan 29, 2019 (2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wZZfkm_ypI
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video
John stebner Freudian slip. [0:52]
Titus Kjv
Published on Jan 29, 2019 (3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOrTZGzk21E
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video
Stedfast Baptist Jonathan Shelly Exposed #NewIFB #Abuse #Deception [19:44]
Titus KJV
January 30, 2019 (01)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCol9Lvs2qs
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Shadow pc rendering jonathan shelly exposed video [3:01]
Titus KJV
January 30, 2019 (02)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bu-vSb049Y
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video
Emmanuel of Stedfast Baptist Church 1-9-2019 [18:37]
Titus KJV
January 30, 2019 (03)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy7U9_0-dmg
NOTE: This video was removed from YouTube. It was downloaded before it was removed, however.
MP4 Video and MP3 Audio have been downloaded for this video
Reuploading videos and discussing cult practices [10:17]
Cult Survivors [Steven Harper]
Published on Feb 3, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV3TvtJw1jY
Audio MP3 and Video MP4 have been downloaded for this video
Emmnanuel Zermano correction |Stedfast Baptist Church Cult Member [12:00]
Cult Survivors [Steven Harper]
Published on Feb 3, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0praakFCLE8
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Cult Survivors [Steven Harper]
Published on Feb 3, 2019
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Cult Survivors [Steven Harper]
Published on Feb 5, 2019
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