Hate and Violence Promoted in the New IFB
The following have been taken from the comments section of a YouTube video posted by Andersonite Benjamin “Ben the Baptist” Naim:
"Although soft, lefty, effeminate Christians shudder at the thought of capital punishment, the Bible makes it clear that certain criminals should be put to death. In this article, I’ll talk about the BIBLICAL solution for the violent crime epidemic sweeping inner city neighborhoods and other areas throughout the United States and the world.
Murder:
"According to News4Jax, FDLE data show 112 murders in Duval County in 2017, six more than the previous year. That’s 16.8 slayings per 100,000 Jacksonville residents, giving the city the highest murder rate of Florida’s largest cities. By far.
"Here’s what the Bible says we can do to alleviate this problem:
"Leviticus 24:17 And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death."Put them to death. Perhaps if the government followed Leviticus 24:17 for all offenders, Jacksonville wouldn’t be the murder capital of Florida! Perhaps some broken neighborhoods (where it isn’t even safe to walk your dog down a public sidewalk) would get cleaned up and transformed into less of a hell hole.
"Obviously, there should be a proper investigation prior to the appropriate punishment being dolled out.
"1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
"1 Peter 2:14 Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.
"1 Peter 2 tells us that the role of government is to punish evildoers.
"Putting a psychopath killer in prison, where they get fed and clothed, does NOT constitute punishment. People who don’t get a life term inevitably become repeat offenders because prison does nothing to inhibit them from falling back into the same situation that got them there in the first place!
Rape:
"Deuteronomy 22:25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die:"Feminists claim to fight against “rape culture,” yet they’ve fully embraced Islam (where rape victims are executed under Sharia Law) and they reject the death penalty for rapists. How does that make sense?
"The Bible says that if a man forces a woman, he should be executed by the government. This is how we save women from being assaulted and this is how we make potential predators think twice before acting on their disgusting impulse.
"Apparently, leftists want the government to subsidize abortion clinics for women to execute a baby conceived through rape while allowing the rapist to live! This is pure insanity. According to the Bible, the baby should live and the rapist should die.
Sodomy:
"All sodomites are violent predators who should be put to death by the government.
"The Bible tells us in Leviticus 20:13
"Levitcus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."This is what happens when sodomites get their way, they compass a house looking for someone to victimize:
"Judges 19:22 Now as they were making their hearts merry, behold, the men of the city, certain sons of Belial, beset the house round about, and beat at the door, and spake to the master of the house, the old man, saying, Bring forth the man that came into thine house, that we may know him.
"Judges 19:23 And the man, the master of the house, went out unto them, and said unto them, Nay, my brethren, nay, I pray you, do not so wickedly; seeing that this man is come into mine house, do not this folly.
"Genesis 19:4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:
"Genesis 19:5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them."We see in both instances that homos attempt to abuse another man because they have no conscience and no ability to discern right from wrong. This is why the Bible refers to them as “beasts” made to be taken and destroyed.
"If our government actually followed Leviticus 20:13 and prescribed the death penalty for filthy predators, far less children would be abused and recruited into the sodomite deathstyle and innocent lives would be saved.
"Overall, the modern prison industrial complex is an abject failure designed to line the pockets of wealthy elites who profit from mass incarceration. According to the Bible, the appropriate response to violent crime is capital punishment — NOT a lengthy prison sentence where the offender gets to sit in a glorified hotel at the tax payer’s expense."1
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Leaving a comment on Ben’s blogpost, I asked him,
“Hello Ben, I wonder if you would add adulterers to this list of those deserving of the death penalty, since the Bible calls for their death in Leviticus 20, just a few verses before it calls for the death of homosexuals? And if so, would you include both of Steven Anderson's parents who are living in adultery, and Donnie Romero who has committed adultery? And what are your thoughts on Steven Anderson continuing to present Donnie Romero as a "Man of God" on his website, almost 8 months after Romero admitted to doing drugs, drinking, adultery, stealing $50,000 from the church, and (like you) repeatedly visiting casinos?” (yes, I intentionally poked a wasp nest of heresy)
https://benthebaptistkjv.com/2019/07/22/the-biblical-response-to-violent-crime/comment-page-1/#comment-3
Thus far, Ben has not responded.
And the following is taken from a video posted by Jonathan Shelley, pastor of New IFB church, Stedfast Baptist Church Fort Worth:
These ventings can be placed into two main categories, minor and major. Of course there are more minor ventings than major ones, and often with many unknown victims. But it is the major ventings, such as the New IFB verbal assaults on homosexuals, that catch the eyes and ears of the media and the world at large. As we examine some of these ventings, let’s begin with a look at the minor ventings, and some of the unknown victims of the New IFB.
As with the vast majority of violent people, their verbal violence is only the tip of a very large iceberg. Many people have seen the numerous videos on YouTube featuring the rantings, railings, and revilings of Steven Anderson. Videos abound of Anderson kicking his pulpit, pounding on it, or jumping up on top it all while screaming invective's at the top of his lungs2, and many have seen them.
What many do not see, however, is the aftermath of Anderson’s ranting. But there are some indications that what we do not see may very well be terrifying. For example, at the Sunday evening service at Steven Anderson’s Faithful Word Baptist Church on July 17, 2016, Richard Miller gave a sermon titled, “What A Time To Be Alive.” Among other subjects in this sermon, Miller touched on what he called the manly things, such as shooting guns, hunting food, and fighting. These are what men do and women do not do according to Miller’s sermon. “It’s a manly thing to fight! It’s something that men do,” Miller said. He went on to exclaim, “if you’re a man, you oughta love to fight!”3 It should be noted that Miller was a protégé of Steven Anderson, whom Anderson later ordained to the position of pastor, setting him up with his own church in Tennessee.4
And, of course, we have already learned about New IFB pastor Jonathan Shelley’s (another Steven Anderson protégé ordained by Anderson) approach to child rearing: “If ya don’t want your kids to go to hell, ya gotta beat ‘em! Ya gotta train ‘em, ya gotta chasten ‘em, ya gotta scourge ‘em! And we see very clearly from this passage, it’s not a suggestion. Verse 14, ‘Thou Shalt Beat Him,’ that’s the same as all the other Ten Commandments.”5 Clearly, Shelley believes child abuse is not only mandatory, it’s a sign of love.
And this is apparently the same method of child rearing employed in the Anderson household as well. Mrs. Anderson has written extensively about problems with modern child rearing methods. In one of her blog posts she points out the benefits of the “rod of correction” and looks back longingly at her own upbringing in East Germany with “old-school grandparents.”6 Former Faithful Word church member, and executive producer of Anderson’s New World Order Bible Versions “documentary,” Paul Berg, related in a YouTube video that when Anderson was told two of his sons had bullied another boy by drawing a picture of the boy with feces on his face and calling him “poop face,” Anderson responded by beating his two sons.7 Granted, bullying should never be tolerated, but drawing a picture of another boy and calling it “poop face” is not all that unusual for young elementary school children and hardly warrants much punishment at all, much less a beating.
Steven Anderson’s wife also weighs in on the subject of spousal abuse, giving advice to women who are being abused by their husbands. In her blog article, “So You’re Married To A Jerk,” Zsuzsanna Anderson writes, “Chances are that the ‘victim’ in this situation made their own bed. … my personal observation has been that those who complain about their spouses...or think all the time what a jerk he is, maybe are not a pleasant person to be around themselves. Maybe it’s them who is the problem? Just hypothetically, let’s assume that a sweet, godly lady marries a nice godly guy. After they are married, completely out of the blue, he changes personalities and turns out to be a complete jerk. What should she do? Does she have any ‘recourse’?...The only biblical recourse for a horrible marriage, or any marriage for that matter, is death. If your husband is an abusive, mean, hateful, fill-in-the-blank jerk in spite of you doing your best as a wife, God can kill him whenever He wants to. If he is still alive, God must still want you to be married to him. ...If nothing else, it will be a great lesson for the kids, who hopefully will grow up and make wiser and more careful choices regarding their future spouse...” Zsuzsanna doubles down in the comments section insisting there is no biblical reason to ever divorce or separate from a spouse.8
Perhaps the most chilling example of the violence that Steven Anderson and the New IFB has fomented, is the online presence of Andersonite Shawn Barnish. During Steven Anderson’s online live Q&A on May 30, 2019, Barnish, a member of Anderson’s Faithful Word Baptist Church, was appointed to moderate the online live chat along with fellow Andersonite Benjamin “Ben the Baptist” Naim. His live chat responses to Roger Clay (an associate who has helped work on this article) were, of course, typical of Anderson and his followers, full of invective's and slander. In one incident, Barnish told Clay, “Shut up f****t.” Ben the Baptist then promptly expelled Roger from the chat.9
His vitriol, however, seemed to be just a notch above the standard Andersonite, and on a level fairly equal with Ben the Baptist and Anderson himself. Because of this a more indepth investigation into Mr. Barnish seemed warranted. In one video on his public YouTube channel, Mr. Barnish is driving through the desert vociferously complaining about the U.S. Government, and not being the least bit shy about using foul language in front of his pre-teen daughter (at least two of God’s commands were ignored by Mr. Barnish in a video less than ten minutes long).10
Also on his YouTube channel is a hidden link that takes the visitor to Mr. Barnish’s website, “God, Guns, Guts, and Glory.” On his website he features a link to Steven Anderson’s “The Bible Way To Heaven” video, a link to his blog, and a link to a live chat feature which runs for those who are aware of it, during Steven Anderson’s sermons. As already noted, the link to Mr. Barnish’s website is hidden on his YouTube page, and not readily noticeable to a member of the general public.
When one clicks on Mr. Barnish’s live video chat, things become extremely disturbing as the visitor is exposed to a video of a very graphic, very violent, very bloody murder of what is purportedly a homosexual youth. The person posting this video claims it was taken in Jamaica. That a professing Christian would allow a graphic video of a violent murder to be posted to his personal website for the purpose of entertainment (of all things), and to an “alternate” and hidden Faithful Word Baptist Church/Steven Anderson sermon live chat (again, for entertainment purposes), is beyond reprehensible, and clearly demonstrates the depravity of the New IFB.
Fred Phelps (the founder and leader of the Westboro church) and Steven Anderson actually have quite a bit in common.
– Both are listed as hate groups and hate group leaders by the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League12
– Both are well known for their hatred of homosexuals13
– Both are rabidly anti-Semitic14
– Both are independent fundamental Baptist preachers (meaning they have no accountability whatsoever)15
– Both oppose set apart Sunday School meetings16
– Both oppose Bible college17
– Both have been banned from foreign countries (Phelps from the UK, Anderson from the UK and over 30 other countries)18
In spite of the similarities, however, Steven Anderson has managed to exceed Phelps in the extent of his hatred. Whereas Phelps had only one church, Anderson holds sway over a global network of like-minded pastors, churches, and congregants within the New IFB movement. In his own church – upon which all other New IFB churches are modeled, Anderson rules with an iron fist which he repeatedly pounds on his large hollow pulpit (designed to reverberate with his pounding) with as much gusto as he can muster; coupled with screaming at the top of lungs, both the words of his sermons, and also invectives at some of those present. In short, Steven Anderson is a pulpit thug.
Part 3c Sources:
1. The Biblical Response to Violent Crime
Posted on July 22, 2019, by Ben the Baptist
https://benthebaptistkjv.com/2019/07/22/the-biblical-response-to-violent-crime/
2. Steven Anderson's Hatred and Railing
Christopher Johnson
Published on Mar 14, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpdkZwISgRg
Steven Anderson's Hatred and Wrath
Christopher Johnson
Published on Mar 14, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2JgwH2ir0s
Pastor Steven Anderson Epic Rant
The Kragen Clan
Published on Jan 25, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96Bvyp0gyQs&feature=youtu.be
Best Pastor Steven Anderson Rants/Hard Preaching pt 3
Baptist 1611
Published on Dec 30, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUD0SIjWWAY
Pastor Steven Anderson Crazy Rants – Compilation
The Bible does not say that homosexuals are beasts. I think Anderson is getting that from 2 Peter 2 :12 that uses the word beast a few verses after mentioning Sodom and Gomorrah, but in context the verse is talking about false teachers who are like beasts / animals in what they do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttxumEkHnKE&feature=youtu.be
Pastor Steven Anderson - Jeremiah 16
On!yDaTruth
Published on Jun 28, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TK3fA_iTQQ
Steven Anderson Is Losing Followers & Church Members
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djQgl3j6j0I
3. Christian Men Should Love to Fight
Elliott Ray
Published on Jul 18, 2016
A clip from the sermon, "What a Time to be Alive", preached by brother Richard Miller at Faithful Word Baptist Church on the night of 07-17-16.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hl3Da6n-a4
4. Richard Miller Pastor Ordination (Faithful Word Baptist Church)
Wendy Davis
Published on Oct 16, 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76XT0GT32v4
5. Parents Are Commanded By God to Spank Their Children
Stedfast Baptist Church [Jonathan Shelley]
Published on Jan 21, 2019
Video Description: “Pastor Shelly explains from the Bible that parents who refuse to discipline and correct their children are disobedient to God and hate their children. Full Sermon: https://youtu.be/5KWOXWg7UYo”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3vBKX-8vao
Rebellious Teenagers Are Worthy of Death
Stedfast Baptist Church
Published on Jan 21, 2019
Pastor Shelley explains how the Bible teaches that Rebellious teenagers who are lazy drunkards should be executed by the government. Full Sermon: https://youtu.be/5KWOXWg7UYo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIns-wVlrw4
6. Radical Unschooling
By Zsuzsanna Anderson, Tuesday, December 19, 2017
http://stevenandersonfamily.blogspot.com/2017/12/radical-unschooling.html
7. ARE THEY ALL YOUR BULLIES Pastor Steven Anderson Raising Bullies Tylah Baker
Published on Jun 13, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnu70-FWeHU&feature=youtu.be
8. Blog article: So you're married to a jerk...
by Zsuzusanna Anderson, Tuesday, January 18, 2011
https://stevenandersonfamily.blogspot.com/2011/01/so-youre-married-to-jerk.html
9. Steven Anderson Uncensored Live Q & A (#2)
sanderson1611
Streamed live on May 30, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDT2ACSxn1A&t=6325s
10. What is more annoying? No shooting signs or the Samsung S8+?
Shawn Barnish
Published on Sep 10, 2017
Today after church I took my daughter out to Table Mesa (Exit) to go to the desert and do some shooting.
It had been a little while since I was out on this road and we found that they added a bunch of new signs. Conflicting signs at that.
A sign will display RULES FOR SHOOTING then the next sign 50 feet away will say NO SHOOTING. So which is it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hXWaHyfvkQ&t=202s
11. Steven Anderson Uncensored (Episode 4)
sanderson1611
Streamed live on Jul 11, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpZNRaII3EU
12. "Kill the homos" pastor and hate group leader Steven Anderson pushes into the Last Frontier
April 03, 2018, Brendan Joel Kelley
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/04/03/kill-homos-pastor-and-hate-group-leader-steven-anderson-pushes-last-frontier
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SPLC Designated Hate Group
Westboro Baptist Church (WBC) is arguably the most obnoxious and rabid hate group in America.
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ADL Deeply Troubled at Upcoming Documentary Film Denigrating Jews and Judaism
New York, NY, November 24, 2014 … The Anti-Defamation League
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Extremism in America: Westboro Baptist Church
https://web.archive.org/web/20100707223315/http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/WBC/default.asp?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_America&xpicked=3&item=WBC
13. Anti-Semitic Arizona Preacher Steven Anderson, Who Says Homosexuals Should Be Executed, Banned From Netherlands
By Kashmira Gander On 5/2/19
https://www.newsweek.com/anti-semitic-arizona-preacher-steven-anderson-homosexuals-executed-banned-1412468
Pastor defends his anti-homosexual sermon
USA TODAY
Published on Dec 6, 2014
Arizona pastor Steven Anderson defends his anti-gay sermon and beliefs. In a previous sermon, Anderson can be heard explaining why he believes that the cure for AIDS is to kill all homosexuals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbSM_kxpObc
Extremism in America: Westboro Baptist Church
https://web.archive.org/web/20100707223315/http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/WBC/default.asp?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_America&xpicked=3&item=WBC
“God Hates Fags”
Westboro Baptist Church Homepage, Retrieved July 14, 2019
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Melloy, Kilian (March 12, 2009). "Phelps Clan Met with Revelry and Frat Boys in Chicago". EDGE Boston. Retrieved July 14, 2019
14. 'Marching to Zion' Official Full Film – Youtube
framingtheworld
Published on May 14, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=typ2pl2L47k
Texe Marrs Interviews Steven Anderson About 'Marching to Zion' Part 1
framingtheworld
Published on May 5, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vbUkXm8K3g
Texe Marrs Interviews Steven Anderson About 'Marching to Zion' Part 2
framingtheworld
Published on May 6, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HaBBRsHTOY
Extremism in America: Westboro Baptist Church
https://web.archive.org/web/20100707223315/http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/WBC/default.asp?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_America&xpicked=3&item=WBC
15. Faithful Word Baptist Church
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithful_Word_Baptist_Church
Fred Phelps
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps
16. Steven Anderson's Sermon against the Nursery and Sunday School
New IFBdot info
Published on Sep 19, 2018
http://newifb.info/index.php/2018/09/...
Originally posted as "'Suffer the Children' Baptist Preaching against nurseries and childrens' church"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E2M_rCeo4k
Westboro Baptist Church – Memo on the Church
July 21, 2002
https://web.archive.org/web/20090419130119/http://www.godhatesfags.com/written/wbcinfo/memoonthechurch.pdf
17. Church vs Bible College
Rehoboth Baptist
Published on Apr 26, 2017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAHz5h5pcNk
College Makes Women Stupid
Sanderson 1611
Published on Mar 9, 2017
Excerpt from "Finish What You Start" preached at Faithful Word Baptist Church
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAd0GPIYRsQ&t=46s
"College" and "School" in the Bible
sanderson1611
Published on Dec 10, 2017
Excerpt from "The Bible College Scam"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb82LkIGWkQ&t=5s
MP4 for this video has been downloaded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnfL0W7t6mI
Young People: Don't Go to Bible College! [0:59]
sanderson1611
Published on Dec 10, 2017
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb82LkIGWkQ&t=5s
MP4 for this video has been downloaded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJEOhuvzeSg
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July 21, 2002
https://web.archive.org/web/20090419130119/http://www.godhatesfags.com/written/wbcinfo/memoonthechurch.pdf
18. Far-Right, Anti-Gay Arizona Pastor Becomes First-Ever Person Banned From Ireland Under Exclusion Powers
By Christina Zhao On 5/13/19
https://www.newsweek.com/far-right-anti-gay-arizona-pastor-becomes-first-ever-person-banned-ireland-1423359
US Preacher Now Banned From All 28 EU Countries
May 2019 — Rob Quinn, Newser
https://start.att.net/news/read/category/news/article/newser-us_preacher_now_banned_from_all_28_eu_countries-rnewsernor
Ireland bans homophobic and antisemitic pastor in first use of exclusion powers
Steven L Anderson is already barred from most of Europe as well as South Africa, Canada and Jamaica
Alessio Perrone, Monday 13 May 2019
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ireland-pastor-ban-steven-anderson-lgbt-antisemitic-baptist-arizona-a8911236.html
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